Itachi vs Jiraiya?? Jiraiya fans plz answer

[kanesannin]

Idk if you guys were joking, but im pretty sure madara never even had susano.
and how is that resisting kakashi's MS he just said don't bother it won't work, and sasuke and zetsu are standing right beside them even if madara phases thru it like he did with amatsaru they would still get sucked into it right?

@ ecch if his eyesight was so bad then why in that same fight could he not only match sasuke's shuriken attacks blow for blow but weave seals for a shadow clone during it
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Who tells you Itachi wasn't fighting dead serious against his brother?
madara, for what its worth with his truth/lie record seeing as the 5th page of the issue im linking is a direct lie about madara not using the fox to attack which we find out he did

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It is unknown whether or not he(madara) had susanoo, he MIGHT have had it naruto wiki says he might have had other mangekyou jutsu.

Kakashi's exclamation mark would suggest that he tried kamui, but it did'nt work. The jutsu is'nt that much of a powerhouse to affect everyone standing nearby, he once used it take out only 1 arm of deidara and to warp away a needle.

 

[kanesannin]

Non of what was stated has anything to do with jman resisting it...nor does it have anything with da 1st doing it neither for da matter...yes da 1st beat madara but we don't know da in's and outs of dat fight cause madara also said he won because he was doing something for later not da fight

I never said it proves j-man's victory, only that it proves NO ONE(including itachi) is invincible. Madara wanted data, yes but i doubt he would give up the 9 tails for that.....the 1st owned him.

 

[black uchiha]

Humm da 9 tails or da power to bend reality to my will I think I'll take door #2 lol

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

he also warped away a susanoo arrow shot by sasuke and a missle from pains robot path when he was all but dead

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

If Itachi could have beaten J-Man so easily why did he and Kisame run away from him in the Naruto Series.... when they tried to capture naruto when he was young.... i think j-man has a lot of jutsu's that weren't revealed in the show or manga

and for the millionth time (not by me, but in general) we are in the manga section and that was only in the anime so thats not proof, and he didn't want to catch naruto in the first place he was a double agent just pretending to be a villan so his brother could kill him and look like a hero to the world.

(didn't work out so well thanks to madara.)

 

[John Constantine]

I never said it proves j-man's victory, only that it proves NO ONE(including itachi) is invincible. Madara wanted data, yes but i doubt he would give up the 9 tails for that.....the 1st owned him.

There's no way for you to make a blunt affirmation like this as not that many intel was given to declare the stupidity you just said as a fact.
Plus, turned out that Madara was more interested in obtaining certain goods than in the battle itself.​

 

[kanesannin]

There's no way for you to make a blunt affirmation like this as not that many intel was given to declare the stupidity you just said as a fact.
Plus, turned out that Madara was more interested in obtaining certain goods than in the battle itself.​

Firstly, it was an opinion, not a statement of fact. However, the likelihood of said opinion being correct is very high. Why? Because madara was in possession of the 9 tails BEFORE he fought hashirama senju, yet he lost it after that fight(the exact story of the fight has not been revealed, yes). Why would he want to let go of an asset as valuable as the 9 tails in exchange for information on the senju cells? There were other not-so-strong members of that clan he could have abducted instead. Furthermore, it is ludicrous to label something 'stupidity' when the only evidence proving it to be so is a man( madara) with a history of lying( recall his story to sasuke compared to what itachi and the 4th said).

 

[kanesannin]

Humm da 9 tails or da power to bend reality to my will I think I'll take door #2 lol

No idea who you are referring to over there, itachi could make an ILLUSION last for upto 3 days and make it seem like anything......he had no powers over reality lol.

 

[Black Adam]

hahaha thats the answer im expecting from people
i realy want to see though who can give a legitament answer

here's one after the crush the leaf arc when the 3rd dies Itachi and Kisame come to Konoha to kidnap Naruto, inside the motel hallway when Kisame and Itachi realize they'll have to fight Jaraiya Itachi immediatley tells Kisame it's time to go. Kisame asks why retreat? and Itachi replies because he needs to rest and also thier opponent is Jaraiya.....

 

[Spartan117]

here's one after the crush the leaf arc when the 3rd dies Itachi and Kisame come to Konoha to kidnap Naruto, inside the motel hallway when Kisame and Itachi realize they'll have to fight Jaraiya Itachi immediatley tells Kisame it's time to go. Kisame asks why retreat? and Itachi replies because he needs to rest and also thier opponent is Jaraiya.....

Unforunately my friend we cannot use that. As the manga states Itachi was a good guy and his intentions was not to capture naruto or to kill of konoha top ninja apaprently.

 

[black uchiha]

I never said it proves j-man's victory, only that it proves NO ONE(including itachi) is invincible. Madara wanted data, yes but i doubt he would give up the 9 tails for that.....the 1st owned him.

No idea who you are referring to over there, itachi could make an ILLUSION last for upto 3 days and make it seem like anything......he had no powers over reality lol.

do u get it now u were talking about madara so i replied about madara, "powers over reality" being da izanagi ...come on guy don't try to play me like i'm stupid...oh and itachi never made an illusion last for 3 days it was for mere seconds, dat felt like days to da victim..get yo info up

 

[moudhgalya]

Ok first off i just want to say i beleive Itachi wins this

I want someone who thinks Jiraiya would win to answer this.

Most people say Jiraiya is to smart to be hit with Tsukuyomi but if he doesnt look at itachi in the face how is he going to fight him? Only someone like Mite Guy can predict movements just by looking at thier feet, and you cannot assume Jiraiya can do that. Not because he cant because its not in the manga (you cannot use an argument that isnt factualy based in the manga.)

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It depends on distance...

And everyone says that the natural energy will save Jiraiya or Ma and Pa could put their chakra in him but what happens when Itachi puts all three under Tsukuyomi? Than they are all screwed.

I don't think Jiraiya can break out of it...and why is that U think Itachi can use Tsukoyomi on multiple people at once?

Amaterasu is not something that anyone can just dodge, Sasuke dodged it because he used Orochimarus white snake ability and Itachi wasnt aiming for him completly or that would have defeted the purpose of keeping sasuke alive. Madara just had the fire phase right through him. And When did Jiraiya show any teqnique that shows he can get away from amaterasu?(which is considered almost unavoidable)

AMaterasu is unavoidable only at short range..At medium-long range he can easily dodge it in Hermit mode...

And Sussano, Please someone give me a legitament argument on how Jiraiya can beat this. running away counts as a loss so what does he do? He cant hit Itachi because of yatas mirror no jutsu that Jiraiya has will help. If he uses swamp of the underworld Itachi could use those seconds to hit him with the sword of tskota.

Swamp of the Underworld ...It can take down Susanoo...

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Itachi wins come on people be real

 

[NamkazeNaruto]

This is TRULY debatable
In the first series be4 shippuden, Itachi Stated that Even him combined with Kisame would have a very slim chance against jiraya.
The thing is aAgains orochimaru , Hmm jiraya wins . but consider jiraya to be naruto that would not want to do any damage To his friend
The fact with 4 tails. 1st off jiraya was not ready , while orochimaru was long into battle.
Against Pain. Pain said that if jiraya knew the secret of his technique, he would ( whithout a doubt) killl him.But the Conditions both physican , psycological and elemental that determined the outcome were on pain's side.even though i would choose itachi over Jiraya. As he is one of my favourite characters. I'd Say jiraya win's on every aspect, at every field.

 

[Steinbiz]

sage speed dodges amaterasu
sage chakra exxecutes tsukuyomi
swamp of the underworld submerges susano'o

what else does Itachi got? sage power gives jiraiya the ability to knock people out with one punch or kick. not on tsunade's level, but effective enough.

if MS ain't gunna do the trick, or (lawl)fireball jutsu, then itachi's dead in tops 2 mins.

 

[kanesannin]

do u get it now u were talking about madara so i replied about madara, "powers over reality" being da izanagi ...come on guy don't try to play me like i'm stupid...oh and itachi never made an illusion last for 3 days it was for mere seconds, dat felt like days to da victim..get yo info up

Nobody is assuming you are stupid, i apologize if it comes across like that. However, the thread is about itachi, i thought you were referring to him. Itachi made the the time within the illusion feel like it was 3 days, mere seconds in the real world. If my info is inaccurate just quote the manga and prove me wrong.

 

[black uchiha]

Nobody is assuming you are stupid, i apologize if it comes across like that. However, the thread is about itachi, i thought you were referring to him. Itachi made the the time within the illusion feel like it was 3 days, mere seconds in the real world. If my info is inaccurate just quote the manga and prove me wrong.

yea i know it is about itachi but u started with da madara convo...as for da bold text i said dat already

do u get it now u were talking about madara so i replied about madara, "powers over reality" being da izanagi ...come on guy don't try to play me like i'm stupid...oh and itachi never made an illusion last for 3 days it was for mere seconds, dat felt like days to da victim..get yo info up

oh and its ok no harm no foul

 

[Spartan117]

Guys How tough is the swamp of the underworld?

 

[John Constantine]

sage speed dodges amaterasu
sage chakra exxecutes tsukuyomi
swamp of the underworld submerges susano'o

what else does Itachi got? sage power gives jiraiya the ability to knock people out with one punch or kick. not on tsunade's level, but effective enough.

if MS ain't gunna do the trick, or (lawl)fireball jutsu, then itachi's dead in tops 2 mins.

Retarded fanboy dodges sense of perception and reality. Some of you kids are really annoying!​

 

[John Constantine]

Nobody is assuming you are stupid, i apologize if it comes across like that. However, the thread is about itachi, i thought you were referring to him. Itachi made the the time within the illusion feel like it was 3 days, mere seconds in the real world. If my info is inaccurate just quote the manga and prove me wrong.

You are right! It's stated that a split second in the real world would be 3 days of torture in the world of Tsukuyomi.​