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Controlling the Rinnegan isn't the same as maintaining control as a JJ.



@Bold Stop it with your fanfics. It does nothing in terms of will. Where do you even get that from? :lmao:



When? When Naruto wasn't even close to being a perfect jin? :lol



For what? Definitely not to control the Juubi, that's for sure.



No, no it's not. :lol



Where is that stated? No where is it stated nor mentioned that the Rinnegan is used to control the Juubi or that it is a source of willpower.
Only Hashi cells is mentioned in regards to the link.
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But maybe you could be right that both powers are needed to control the Juubi itself via link, but it's a different story once you've become it's Jin. To maintain control as a JJ, you need outstanding willpower, something Senju/Uchiha powers don't grant.



Gedo Statue is a vessel. It's the Ten-Tails' husk. It requires the 9 Bijuu. :hint:




Lmfao. Wrong again. It had nothing to do with the Rinnegan nor were there any signs pointing to such a thing. It was all about his willpower not being enough to maintain control over the Juubi, but he ended up pulling himself together and got control.



Controlling Juubi>>>>>>>>>>Controlling Kyuubi.
To maintain control as a JJ, you need outstanding willpower, something both of the clan powers don't grant. :sigar:
Gedo Mazo is the vessel without any Biju. Controlling the vessel in itself requires Senju and Uzumaki powers.
If normal willpower can make you a Jubi Jin then every individual in Naruto can be one. :lol Obito is a Uchiha and had Senju tissues and Uchiha powers and a Mangekyou. Yet he couldnt control Jubi. Madara confirms manipulating the vessel isnt easy and obito barely passed the test because of hashirama's strength. For such a low level Jubi form cells are needed so what would the greatest form require? The Rinnegan.

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Gedo Mazo is the vessel without any Biju. Controlling the vessel in itself requires Senju and Uzumaki powers.
If normal willpower can make you a Jubi Jin then every individual in Naruto can be one. :lol Obito is a Uchiha and had Senju tissues and Uchiha powers and a Mangekyou. Yet he couldnt control Jubi. Madara confirms manipulating the vessel isnt easy and obito barely passed the test because of hashirama's strength. For such a low level Jubi form cells are needed so what would the greatest form require? The Rinnegan.

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More important than that is you need the ten tails coffin seal which is a Rinnegan KKG jutsu to become the host. Also Naruto could barely overcome 50% Kurama's will iwith help from Kushina yet his fans think he could house and overcome the 10 tails will:lmao:
 

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Gedo Mazo is the vessel without any Biju.
Gedo Statue is merely a vessel that is mean't to house the Bijuu, which equates to the Juubi. This is common sense.

Controlling the vessel in itself requires Senju and Uzumaki powers.
So now it's Senju and Uzumaki powers? :lol

If normal willpower can make you a Jubi Jin then every individual in Naruto can be one.
I already told you everyone has a measure of will, however that doesn't mean that everyone has the willpower to maintain control of being a JJ. Rinnegan does not grant special willpower as you claim.

:lol Obito is a Uchiha and had Senju tissues and Uchiha powers and a Mangekyou. Yet he couldnt control Jubi. Madara confirms manipulating the vessel isnt easy and obito barely passed the test because of hashirama's strength. For such a low level Jubi form cells are needed so what would the greatest form require? The Rinnegan.

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Yet that(Rinnegan) isn't stated to be a requirement. All that is mentioned is Hashi's cells. In any case, willpower is the key to maintaining control once you've become a Juubi Jin. Not the Rinnegan, nor does it grant one extra willpower.


More important than that is you need the ten tails coffin seal which is a Rinnegan KKG jutsu to become the host. Also Naruto could barely overcome 50% Kurama's will iwith help from Kushina yet his fans think he could house and overcome the 10 tails will:lmao:
Lmfao That logic.

Naruto fought to take control of Kurama's chakra and with some help did it, thus gaining KCM.
Not only did Naruto house 50% Kurama, but a piece of everyone of the Bijuus with absolutely no difficulty. Also Naruto's will has proved to be superior than most, definitely greater than Obito's. Overcoming the 10 tails will won't be a problem for him, sorry to say. :win:
 

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Lmfao That logic.

Naruto fought to take control of Kurama's chakra and with some help did it, thus gaining KCM.
Not only did Naruto house 50% Kurama, but a piece of everyone of the Bijuus with absolutely no difficulty. Also Naruto's will has proved to be superior than most, definitely greater than Obito's. Overcoming the 10 tails will won't be a problem for him, sorry to say. :win:
A Naruto fan showing why they shouldn't be taken seriously looks like he doesn't read the manga. Naruto got raped by Kurama no difficulty even though he'd removed the hatred his will was still overpowered. He started to transform into 9 tails, he had a full cloak and 1/2 his body was alreasy gone. Kushina saved him from that, Kushina bound Kurama and she helped Naruto defeat him. The fact is Naruto was going to take the L especially in the willpower department no difficulty at best. Naruto fans calling Kushina's actions some help :lmao:

Naruto didn't have difficulty housing because they were co-operaring with him of their own choice. When Kurama wasn't Naruto was about to take the L until Kushina stepped in. The 10 tails is a whole otherball game Naruto's pathetic will is no match for it. There's a difference between conviction and will power. + Naruto was negged if not for Sasuke he was on the ground crying like a l'il bitch after Obito gave him his L. Also Obito was trying to maintain control of the Rinnegan's overwhelming power and he fought off Madara's attempts to revive himself. Overcoming the 10 tails will is impossible for Naruto I'm sorry to say :win:

I'm not going to play silly games with a Naruro fan who let's fanboying interfere wirh his judgement. Feel free to spout as much fanfic as it takes to console yourself.
 

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Gedo Statue is merely a vessel that is mean't to house the Bijuu, which equates to the Juubi. This is common sense.



So now it's Senju and Uzumaki powers? :lol



I already told you everyone has a measure of will, however that doesn't mean that everyone has the willpower to maintain control of being a JJ. Rinnegan does not grant special willpower as you claim.



Yet that(Rinnegan) isn't stated to be a requirement. All that is mentioned is Hashi's cells. In any case, willpower is the key to maintaining control once you've become a Juubi Jin. Not the Rinnegan, nor does it grant one extra willpower.




Lmfao That logic.

Naruto fought to take control of Kurama's chakra and with some help did it, thus gaining KCM.
Not only did Naruto house 50% Kurama, but a piece of everyone of the Bijuus with absolutely no difficulty. Also Naruto's will has proved to be superior than most, definitely greater than Obito's. Overcoming the 10 tails will won't be a problem for him, sorry to say. :win:
How do you prove it? Oh wait you cant. :lol Madara clearly mentions Rinnegan among the lines of spouting Gedo control that itself implies Jubi require Rinnegan to control or it'll take over you. Rinnegan has its own chakra and that chakra is what bind's the Jubi just like Kushina's chakra is what bind's the Kyuubi. Obito couldnt control the Rinnegan's chakra and said he lost himself because its power and chakra was too great. Willpower is not a 'measure of will' as you say in this context, its something you get from a ocular power.


Naruto failed against 50% if not for Kushina's help who utterly helped him in the tug of war so if you cant prove his will is greater youve no point not to mention naruto sweated in sage mode when measuring jubi's power because it was immeasurable. Like how do you control such an immeasurable power without a gadget of some sort?:lol



Everything implies Rinnegan is needed.
 

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Says an Uchiha fap. You guys should stop reading too much fanfic. Always getting things from the Manga wrong or twisting what happened to fit your narrative. :lol



Where did you pull this fanfic from? When did Naruto get raped by Kurama no difficulty? If that was true, Kurama would've finished things before Kushina got involved.



He was dealing with Kurama, the most powerful tailed beast after all. At that point Naruto was still at Pain arc level.



Didn't I say he had help?



On his own, sure Naruto was going to lose, he still wasn't powerful enough at the time. However you're absolutely wrong to say it'd be no difficulty.



I acknowledged he had help, what did you want me to say?
Oh Naruto had tremendously immense helpsjkfnfjnsdkfskfvmwnituxkfkf. :nosebleed: <---Like that? :lol

Who did most of the heavy lifting? Oh yeah Naruto. Not surprised with your response though. Anything to downplay Naruto right? Like your life depends on it. XD




Their chakra mass doesn't change whether they cooperate or not. Or are you implying that a fodder infant can house tailed beasts' as long as they cooperate?




After a fight, sure Naruto was gonna lose, as he evidently wasn't fully ready to take him on yet.



If Naruto's will is pathetic, then that makes 99% of NV's will utter trash.



There is and Naruto has plenty of both.



lol Bold is nothing but salt talking.
It seems you didn't understand the situation. Naruto was distraught at what Obito did(killing the people he cared/fights for) or do I have to bring some scans so you can see for yourself.



When he wasn't a JJ. His will was impressive no doubt, but as time went on, Naruto's will grew stronger.




Sorry to disappoint, but that is highly unlikely. :sigar:



Says the one who let's hatred towards fictional characters as well as fanboying towards anything Uchiha interfere with his judgement.



Triggered much? lmao
Clearly it's you faps who spout fanfic to no end and try passing them off as facts. It's beyond me how you can come up with such things. Pity.




Only one without proof here is you. Most of your statements are false and can't be proved, but for some reason you keep insisting on it. :lol



He never says that Rinnegan is necessary nor a requirement to maintain control as a JJ.



Bold isn't stated anywhere.
Kushina binds the Kyuubi via her chakra chains, but it isn't the only means to bind it.



Because he wasn't the original owner.



lol No it's not. Nowhere does it say that Ocular Power grants you willpower. It's just something you made up.



I already stated he had help.



You're silly if you think that ones will remains the same. Naruto's willpower who faced against 50% Kurama isn't the same as the Naruto who fought in the war or the Naruto during TL or current Naruto.



Okay? Obito or anyone else for that matter would have the same reaction if they attempted to measure it's power.



Not with a Rinnegan. lol



Yet you've got nothing to back this up. Face it, Rinnegan isn't needed. :win:
Will never increases. If youre gonna spout fanfic as usual then dont bother reply's.

If you cant read without a adult's help beside you, I'll explain it to you word by word. Now listen carefully.

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Madara is saying 'Even if you dont awaken the Rinnegan, You ought to eventually control the Mazo'.

Do you know what even means?

Example: "Even if we fail to win the war, we'll at least live in the enemy's territory".

Can you see what it means? Even is more like a substitute like word, more of a replacement if you dont get the original thing.

Obito has the Uchiha and Senju powers. Gedo Mazo the first form of the Jubi the weakest form then it goes to the mindless animal state then it goes to the divine tree state . Having the Uchiha and the Senju powers are the bare minimum to control the Gedo Mazo. If Jubi can be controlled with the great non ocular will then the Gedo Mazo can also be controlled without the Senju Uchiha powers. So dispose of that logic and put it clearl'y where they belong. :lol.

Obito couldnt control the Rinnegan because of the unoriginality of ownership and because the control didnt exist; Rinnegan couldnt help him control the Juubi. Obito attributes his mindlessness to the Rinnegan as he said 'I lost myself when manipulating the Rinnegan".
 

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Will never increases. If youre gonna spout fanfic as usual then dont bother reply's.
Only ones spouting fanfic is you and Sala. Always.
Basically you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how foolish that sounds? XD

If you cant read without a adult's help beside you
Take your own advice. You need it more than I do. :hs:

, I'll explain it to you word by word. Now listen carefully.

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Madara is saying 'Even if you dont awaken the Rinnegan, You ought to eventually control the Mazo'.

Do you know what even means?
It means the Rinnegan isn't a necessity, thanks for proving my point. :lol

Example: "Even if we fail to win the war, we'll at least live in the enemy's territory".

Can you see what it means? Even is more like a substitute like word, more of a replacement if you dont get the original thing.
Bad example lol.
Anyway what it means is clear. The Rinnegan as stated by Madara isn't a must have.

Obito has the Uchiha and Senju powers.
Obviously.

Gedo Mazo the first form of the Jubi the weakest form then it goes to the mindless animal state then it goes to the divine tree state .
Gedo Statue is a shell/vessel. The first and weakest from of the Juubi is the one both Obito and Madara linked to.

Having the Uchiha and the Senju powers are the bare minimum to control the Gedo Mazo.
But the Rinnegan isn't needed as said by Madara.

If Jubi can be controlled with the great non ocular will then the Gedo Mazo can also be controlled without the Senju Uchiha powers. So dispose of that logic and put it clearl'y where they belong. :lol.
There's no such things as Ocular will so you dispose of that and put it where it belongs. (Fanfic section)
To maintain control as a JuubiJin you must have a strong will. As showcased by Obito.

Obito couldnt control the Rinnegan because of the unoriginality of ownership and because the control didnt exist;
I already stated he had trouble controlling it because he wasn't the original wielder.

Rinnegan couldnt help him control the Juubi.
So now you're saying it doesn't? :rolleyes:

Obito attributes his mindlessness to the Rinnegan as he said 'I lost myself when manipulating the Rinnegan".
That was pre JJ. Pre-war arc for that matter.
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When Obito struggled maintaining control as a JJ, he pulled himself together via willpower.
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Only ones spouting fanfic is you and Sala. Always.
Basically you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how foolish that sounds? XD



Take your own advice. You need it more than I do. :hs:



It means the Rinnegan isn't a necessity, thanks for proving my point. :lol



Bad example lol.
Anyway what it means is clear. The Rinnegan as stated by Madara isn't a must have.



Obviously.



Gedo Statue is a shell/vessel. The first and weakest from of the Juubi is the one both Obito and Madara linked to.



But the Rinnegan isn't needed as said by Madara.



There's no such things as Ocular will so you dispose of that and put it where it belongs. (Fanfic section)
To maintain control as a JuubiJin you must have a strong will. As showcased by Obito.



I already stated he had trouble controlling it because he wasn't the original wielder.



So now you're saying it doesn't? :rolleyes:



That was pre JJ. Pre-war arc for that matter.
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When Obito struggled maintaining control as a JJ, he pulled himself together via willpower.
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- Will wont grow. Not in Narutoverse. Everyone can be Juubi Jinchuuriki otherwise. Hell, normal Jinchuuriks need a special chakra to control the Biju still you think Juubi can be suppressed with just a strong will coming outta nowhere? LMAO, fk outta here with that logic.

- You've to prove Naruto's will increased and even if it increases doesnt mean he's fit to be the Juubi's Jin. Hashirama's cells grant the strongest will among all yet it combined with uchiha powers can only Shell of Jubi.

- The Manga has shown when we're about to control a stronger item/object we've to have a greater/higher level of powerup. Examples: Naruto needing Kushina's help to help him against 50% kurama. Naruto needing BSM synched with Minato's Chakra mode to split his chakra to all the alliance. You need to have sharingan to cast genjutsu on others, Rinnesharingan to cast on the whole world + The Jubi.

As we can see none of this is done by the person's individual strength let alone this will BS you spout. :lol

They need upgradation to the next level in one or the other form.

- You could see the sharingan getting cut by the Jubi when obito was transforming. He went crazy because controlling the Rinnegan is too much for him so he cant control the Sharingan extra along with it. After latter got sliced he could barely control the Rinnegan which controlled the Jubi. You shouldnt argue this unless you wanna look a bit ignorant. :lol

Because the series has established ocular powers can control biju. Sharingan can control the kyuubi. Rinnegan is a greater power than the Sharingan. Its needed to control the jubi.

Obito's statement was in the kamui dimension and he was talking about his JJ state. Stop twisting fact's. :lol.
 

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- Will wont grow. Not in Narutoverse.
Again, you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how foolish that sounds? XD

Everyone can be Juubi Jinchuuriki otherwise.
Not everyone has the will to maintain control. Most will lose themselves to the Juubi.

Hell, normal Jinchuuriks need a special chakra to control the Biju still you think Juubi can be suppressed with just a strong will coming outta nowhere?
And do tell what that special chakra is. Bee's, Naruto's, Yagura's, Yugito Nii's. What is the special chakra they use to control Bijuu? :lmao::lmao:


LMAO, fk outta here with that logic.
Only one that needs to get the fk outta here with such terrible logic is you.

- You've to prove Naruto's will increased and even if it increases doesnt mean he's fit to be the Juubi's Jin.
You're a fool if you think Naruto's will hasn't increased, but why do I have to tell you. You believe the will of an infant is equivalent to one of an adult. Rofl.
He's more than capable of being a Juubi Jin, it's just your bias blinding you to such a fact.

Hashirama's cells grant the strongest will among all yet it combined with uchiha powers can only Shell of Jubi.
First you say Rinnegan grants will, now it's Hashirama's cells? My god. lol
@ Bold What? "Can only shell of Jubi". Elaborate.

- The Manga has shown when we're about to control a stronger item/object we've to have a greater/higher level of powerup. Examples: Naruto needing Kushina's help to help him against 50% kurama. Naruto needing BSM synched with Minato's Chakra mode to split his chakra to all the alliance. You need to have sharingan to cast genjutsu on others, Rinnesharingan to cast on the whole world + The Jubi.
That isn't applied to everything.

As we can see none of this is done by the person's individual strength let alone this will BS you spout. :lol
I love how you're straight up denying the Manga scans I've presented. In denial much? :lol
Obito was able to maintain control of being a JJ through willpower. Without strong willpower, you'll be consumed.

They need upgradation to the next level in one or the other form.

- You could see the sharingan getting cut by the Jubi when obito was transforming. He went crazy because controlling the Rinnegan is too much for him so he cant control the Sharingan extra along with it.
Damn do you ever get tired of typing so much fanfic. It's mind boggling how someone can actually believe such things.
So much twisting. Kishi would literally laugh out loud at such nonsense.
Anyway the Sharingan wasn't the only thing being cut, so don't single things out to suit your narrative. The Rinnegan had absolutely nothing to do with what was going on.

-Says he went crazy because controlling the Rinnegan is too much for him so he can't control the Sharingan(his own power) extra along with it.
Do you see how silly that sounds?

After latter got sliced he could barely control the Rinnegan which controlled the Jubi.
Incorrect, he had trouble controlling the Rinnegan upon implanting it, not while being a JJ. And no, his utilization of the Rinnegan had absolutely no control over the Juubi.

You shouldnt argue this unless you wanna look a bit ignorant. :lol
Argue what? There's nothing to argue about. You keep on pushing your atrocious fanfic, hoping that it will gain some validation as facts, but that's not gonna happen. You can't even back up your statements with solid evidences, yet you want me to take your word for it. lol No thanks.

Because the series has established ocular powers can control biju. Sharingan can control the kyuubi. Rinnegan is a greater power than the Sharingan. Its needed to control the jubi.
Nowhere does it say that the Rinnegan is needed to control the Juubi. How many times must I repeat this to you, to get it through your thick skull?

Obito's statement was in the kamui dimension and he was talking about his JJ state.
No he wasn't. Unless you're saying that he implanted the Rinnegan while being a JJ. Enough reaching. :lmao:

Stop twisting fact's. :lol.
All I've been doing is supplying facts, you keep denying them and saying something else as usual. :hint:
 

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Again, you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how foolish that sounds? XD



Not everyone has the will to maintain control. Most will lose themselves to the Juubi.



And do tell what that special chakra is. Bee's, Naruto's, Yagura's, Yugito Nii's. What is the special chakra they use to control Bijuu? :lmao::lmao:




Only one that needs to get the fk outta here with such terrible logic is you.



You're a fool if you think Naruto's will hasn't increased, but why do I have to tell you. You believe the will of an infant is equivalent to one of an adult. Rofl.
He's more than capable of being a Juubi Jin, it's just your bias blinding you to such a fact.



First you say Rinnegan grants will, now it's Hashirama's cells? My god. lol
@ Bold What? "Can only shell of Jubi". Elaborate.



That isn't applied to everything.



I love how you're straight up denying the Manga scans I've presented. In denial much? :lol
Obito was able to maintain control of being a JJ through willpower. Without strong willpower, you'll be consumed.



Damn do you ever get tired of typing so much fanfic. It's mind boggling how someone can actually believe such things.
So much twisting. Kishi would literally laugh out loud at such nonsense.
Anyway the Sharingan wasn't the only thing being cut, so don't single things out to suit your narrative. The Rinnegan had absolutely nothing to do with what was going on.

-Says he went crazy because controlling the Rinnegan is too much for him so he can't control the Sharingan(his own power) extra along with it.
Do you see how silly that sounds?



Incorrect, he had trouble controlling the Rinnegan upon implanting it, not while being a JJ. And no, his utilization of the Rinnegan had absolutely no control over the Juubi.



Argue what? There's nothing to argue about. You keep on pushing your atrocious fanfic, hoping that it will gain some validation as facts, but that's not gonna happen. You can't even back up your statements with solid evidences, yet you want me to take your word for it. lol No thanks.



Nowhere does it say that the Rinnegan is needed to control the Juubi. How many times must I repeat this to you, to get it through your thick skull?



No he wasn't. Unless you're saying that he implanted the Rinnegan while being a JJ. Enough reaching. :lmao:



All I've been doing is supplying facts, you keep denying them and saying something else as usual. :hint:
All you've state is nothing but just pure BS. :lol

Your little fiction's have no bearing on what happens in the Manga sorry to say what happened against Obito is twisted by that retard assumptions of yours which you dont plan on letting go off so I'll educate on how Sharingan was removed for Obito get a better grip on the Rinnegan which better gripped The Jubi.:lol now you see the Sharingan was clearly cut and the Rinnegan was not no denying that. Controlling both types of eyes is impossible when you need the Rinnegan focus to control The Jubi. Now your little self must grasp the fact Kishimoto wouldnt draw this scene if it had no bearing on what happened. :lol You cant even prove otherwise how sad. :lol The facts are will doesnt mature as that is not the type of will the Databook is talking about which your brittle IQ's skull cant unfortunately comprehend. The will they're talking about is Ocular powers/Special chakra, inherently/from outside source. Let's go to Kushina and Naruto and as to why they became Jinchuuriki. :lol

Kushina had a special chakra and Kyuubi blatantly stated Naruto inherited her chakra and he can vessel him because of such a reason. Dont argue this with that brainless fanfic's of yours/it'll be blatantly ignored. :lol Now we know vesselling a beast far weaker than the Jubi requires a different type of Chakra. So if your precious lord and saviour Naruto could use Kyuubi without that chakra then Minato would have sealed it in some other baby.:lol Now Hashirama's cells and Uchiha powers are needed to control the Gedo Mazo get that through your dull IQ Madara warned obito he'll eventually control the Gedo Mazo and, he couldnt control it automatically as fast as he gained the Mokuton Powers. We know by this that Gedo cant be controlled with a normal will but by a special type of cell like Hashirama and the Sharingan.:lol now the culmination of the Sharingan and Mokuton powers added with Asura and Indra's chakras is The Rinnegan. Which is why Madara said even if you dont awaken the Rinnegan you'd eventually control it. None of your mindless fanfic's are changing that. Not having the Rinnegan is an alternative. If I say to someone 'even if you dont pass the exam you can still write Retest' what does that mean?:lol It mean I'm suggesting an alternative, its the minimum factor in a certain box for a certain something to be accomplished. If thier is a minimum there is a maximum. Any one with a slapIQ can comprehend this fact.:lol That maximum is The Rinnegan which we need to control the higher stages of the Jubi. Even going by that stupid ass excuse's theory of a yours theres no way in hell Obito/Madara would even need to awaken the Rinnegan to control the Jubi. If The Rinnegan isnt a hardcore requirement VS The Jubi. :lol Black Zetsu would basically let Madara use the Jubi after acquiring it secretly without needing The Rinnegan. You get it? The very fact Jubi Jinchuurikis are the only ones capable of casting The Infinite Tsukuyomi which is an ocular Dojutsi prove The Greatest Point.:lol I've no need for the rest of your useless paragraph which is nothing but pure fapboys logic.:lol
 

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Strongest uhnn that goes to naruto who canceled out indra arrow like it was kids play.

But the smartest/better fighter then yes sasuke is. At this point narutos skills really rusted but his strength is still un parallel.
 

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A Naruto fan showing why they shouldn't be taken seriously looks like he doesn't read the manga.
Says an Uchiha fap. You guys should stop reading too much fanfic. Always getting things from the Manga wrong or twisting what happened to fit your narrative. :lol

Naruto got raped by Kurama no difficulty even though he'd removed the hatred his will was still overpowered.
Where did you pull this fanfic from? When did Naruto get raped by Kurama no difficulty? If that was true, Kurama would've finished things before Kushina got involved.

He started to transform into 9 tails, he had a full cloak and 1/2 his body was alreasy gone.
He was dealing with Kurama, the most powerful tailed beast after all. At that point Naruto was still at Pain arc level.

Kushina saved him from that, Kushina bound Kurama and she helped Naruto defeat him.
Didn't I say he had help?

The fact is Naruto was going to take the L especially in the willpower department no difficulty at best.
On his own, sure Naruto was going to lose, he still wasn't powerful enough at the time. However you're absolutely wrong to say it'd be no difficulty.

Naruto fans calling Kushina's actions some help :lmao:
I acknowledged he had help, what did you want me to say?
Oh Naruto had tremendously immense helpsjkfnfjnsdkfskfvmwnituxkfkf. :nosebleed: <---Like that? :lol
Who did most of the heavy lifting? Oh yeah Naruto. Not surprised with your response though. Anything to downplay Naruto right? Like your life depends on it. XD

Naruto didn't have difficulty housing because they were co-operaring with him of their own choice.
Their chakra mass doesn't change whether they cooperate or not. Or are you implying that a fodder infant can house tailed beasts' as long as they cooperate?

When Kurama wasn't Naruto was about to take the L until Kushina stepped in.
After a fight, sure Naruto was gonna lose, as he evidently wasn't fully ready to take him on yet.

The 10 tails is a whole otherball game Naruto's pathetic will is no match for it.
If Naruto's will is pathetic, then that makes 99% of NV's will utter trash.

There's a difference between conviction and will power.
There is and Naruto has plenty of both.

+ Naruto was negged if not for Sasuke he was on the ground crying like a l'il bitch after Obito gave him his L.
lol Bold is nothing but salt talking.
It seems you didn't understand the situation. Naruto was distraught at what Obito did(killing the people he cared/fights for) or do I have to bring some scans so you can see for yourself.

Also Obito was trying to maintain control of the Rinnegan's overwhelming power and he fought off Madara's attempts to revive himself.
When he wasn't a JJ. His will was impressive no doubt, but as time went on, Naruto's will grew stronger.

Overcoming the 10 tails will is impossible for Naruto I'm sorry to say :win:
Sorry to disappoint, but that is highly unlikely. :sigar:

I'm not going to play silly games with a Naruro fan who let's fanboying interfere wirh his judgement.
Says the one who let's hatred towards fictional characters as well as fanboying towards anything Uchiha interfere with his judgement.

Feel free to spout as much fanfic as it takes to console yourself.
Triggered much? lmao
Clearly it's you faps who spout fanfic to no end and try passing them off as facts. It's beyond me how you can come up with such things. Pity.

How do you prove it? Oh wait you cant. :lol
Only one without proof here is you. Most of your statements are false and can't be proved, but for some reason you keep insisting on it.

Madara clearly mentions Rinnegan among the lines of spouting Gedo control that itself implies Jubi require Rinnegan to control or it'll take over you.
He never says that Rinnegan is necessary nor a requirement to maintain control as a JJ

Rinnegan has its own chakra and that chakra is what bind's the Jubi just like Kushina's chakra is what bind's the Kyuubi.
Bold isn't stated anywhere.
Kushina binds the Kyuubi via her chakra chains, but it isn't the only means to bind it.

Obito couldnt control the Rinnegan's chakra and said he lost himself because its power and chakra was too great.
Because he wasn't the original owner.

Willpower is not a 'measure of will' as you say in this context, its something you get from a ocular power.
lol No it's not. Nowhere does it say that Ocular Power grants you willpower. It's just something you made up.

Naruto failed against 50% if not for Kushina's help who utterly helped him in the tug of war
I already stated he had help.

so if you cant prove his will is greater youve no point
You're silly if you think that ones will remains the same. Naruto's willpower who faced against 50% Kurama isn't the same as the Naruto who fought in the war or the Naruto during TL or current Naruto.

not to mention naruto sweated in sage mode when measuring jubi's power because it was immeasurable.
Okay? Obito or anyone else for that matter would have the same reaction if they attempted to measure it's power.

Like how do you control such an immeasurable power without a gadget of some sort?:lol
Not with a Rinnegan. lol

Everything implies Rinnegan is needed.
Yet you've got nothing to back this up. Face it, Rinnegan isn't needed. :win:


All you've state is nothing but just pure BS. :lol
Only BS to you because it goes against every spec of fanfic you've spouted, passing it off as facts.

Your little fiction's have no bearing on what happens in the Manga sorry to say
Good, because what I've provided is exactly what happened in the Manga. I'm not you, who takes what happens in the Manga and changes it to fit your narrative. You keep exposing yourself more and more. How disappointing.

what happened against Obito is twisted by that retard assumptions of yours
Really? Outright denying Manga scans and says I'm twisted things? Lmfao!!!
Can't say I'm surprised though. You're fanfic incarnate, you thrive on such things.

which you dont plan on letting go off
I don't plan on letting go of facts. You should let go of your fanfics, it'll do you some good.

so I'll educate on how Sharingan was removed for Obito get a better grip on the Rinnegan which better gripped The Jubi.:lol now you see the Sharingan was clearly cut and the Rinnegan was not no denying that.
Educate? Educate yourself first. Read the Manga for starters.
Sharingan wasn't removed for Obito get a better grip on the Rinnegan which better gripped The Jubi.
Hell the Sharingan wasn't removed at all. The Manga scans I provided showed Obito getting teared apart. I love how you're singling out the Sharingan to prove your baseless point. :lol


Controlling both types of eyes is impossible when you need the Rinnegan focus to control The Jubi.
The Rinnegan wasn't used to control the Juubi. At all. Get this fanfic outta here.

Now your little self must grasp the fact
Take your own advice. You keep grasping fanfics.

Kishimoto wouldnt draw this scene if it had no bearing on what happened. :lol
Twisting what Kishimoto drew to suit your fanfic eh?
Look at the whole scene, don't single out the Sharingan to support something so baseless. Kishi made things clear, Obito through willpower managed to maintain control of the Juubi.

You cant even prove otherwise
Says the one who has absolutely no proof to back up his petty fanfics.

how sad. :lol
It is sad. I pity you. :)

The facts are will doesnt grow as
Again, you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how foolish that sounds? XD

that is not the type of will the Databook is talking about
Present the Databook.

which your brittle IQ's skull cant unfortunately comprehend.
Only one with brittle IQ's skull is you. Can't even bring evidence to support what you type.

The will they're talking about is Ocular powers/Special chakra, inherently/from outside source.
There's no such thing as Ocular power "will".
Provide me a scan that states Ocular Powers provides "will".

Let's go to Kushina and Naruto and as to why they became Jinchuuriki. :lol
Oh boy, this oughta be good. XD

Kushina had a special chakra and Kyuubi blatantly stated Naruto inherited her chakra and he can vessel him because of such a reason.
Naruto didn't inherit the chakra chains that Kushina used to restrain the Kyuubi.
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Dont argue this with that brainless fanfic's of yours/
What are you on about?
Only thing that is being argued is the sad fanfic you've been spouting.
All I've done is providing facts, shutting down such fanfics. :hint:

it'll be blatantly ignored. :lol
Go ahead, this isn't the first time you've blatantly ignored facts. :lol


Now we know vesselling a beast far weaker than the Jubi requires a different type of Chakra.
It's not about the type. Why don't you explain Bee, Yugito Nii and Yagura as well then. I'll wait. :lol

So if your precious lord and saviour Naruto could use Kyuubi without that chakra then Minato would have sealed it in some other baby.:lol
You think that's why Minato sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto? Rofl.
Read the Manga. That isn't the reason.

Now Hashirama's cells and Uchiha powers are needed to control the Gedo Mazo get that through your dull IQ
The Rinnegan isn't required to do so, you get that through your dull IQ.

Madara warned obito he'll eventually control the Gedo Mazo and, he couldnt control it automatically as fast as he gained the Mokuton Powers. We know by this that Gedo cant be controlled with a normal will but by a special type of cell like Hashirama and the Sharingan.:lol
Hashirama's cells nor the Sharingan grant willpower. That's purely made up fanfic by you.


now the culmination of the Sharingan and Mokuton powers added with Asura and Indra's chakras is The Rinnegan.
Okay?

Which is why Madara said even if you dont awaken the Rinnegan you'd eventually control it.
Basically saying the Rinnegan isn't a necessity.

None of your mindless fanfic's are changing that.
Great? But I'm not the one bringing mindless fanfics. That's all you and what's worse is that you're desperately trying to change what happened in the Manga to suit your baseless argument.

Not having the Rinnegan is an alternative.
Yet you've claimed Rinnegan to be a necessity. Make up your mind. :lol

If I say to someone 'even if you dont pass the exam you can still write Retest' what does that mean?:lol It mean I'm suggesting an alternative, its the minimum factor in a certain box for a certain something to be accomplished.
You can use all the examples you'd like. The point still stands, The Rinnegan isn't required as stated by Madara.
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That is basically the basis of your argument that the Rinnegan is required to control the Juubi or to maintain control as a Juubi Jin, but it isn't, as proven by the Manga.

If thier is a minimum there is a maximum.
Obviously.

Any one with a slapIQ can comprehend this fact.:lol
Yet you can't comprehend the Manga, since you keep denying what's in it and only believe the foolish things you type.

That maximum is The Rinnegan which we need to control the higher stages of the Jubi.
That's cute, but the Rinnegan wasn't used at all in controlling any stage of the Juubi. The only thing that was emphasized was Hashi's cells, going by what Madara said to Obito in making the link stronger.

Even going by that stupid ass excuse's theory of a yours
Only one filled with retarded ass excuse's theory is you. Can't even back up what you state. Nothing in the Manga supports your petty argument.

theres no way in hell Obito/Madara would even need to awaken the Rinnegan to control the Jubi.
Madara already told Obito that awakening the Rinnegan isn't a necessity to control the Juubi.

If The Rinnegan isnt a hardcore requirement VS The Jubi. :lol Black Zetsu would basically let Madara use the Jubi after acquiring it secretly without needing The Rinnegan. You get it?
Black Zetsu needed someone to awaken the Rinnegan so they can break the seal and summon the Gedo Statue. Before that the Gedo Statue was sealed away in the moon. It's purpose wasn't to be used VS The Juubi. It's right there in the Manga. Give it a read, that way you'll be more informed.

The very fact Jubi Jinchuurikis are the only ones capable of casting The Infinite Tsukuyomi which is an ocular Dojutsi prove The Greatest Point.:lol
Anyone who is a Juubi Jin and has absorbed the Shinju tree gains the RinneSharingan and by default is capable of casting Infinite Tsukuyomi, whether you already possess the Rinnegan or not. That is a fact. :hint:

I've no need for the rest of your useless paragraph
Of course you would say that. You can't counter them after all.

which is nothing but pure fapboys logic.:lol
Oh please, that's all you do. Running your mouth with fanfic after fanfic and passing them off as facts, when they are not.
You're logic is broken, nothing you say can be taken seriously. :sigar:

Did you really take the Naruto fan seriously, he's blinded by fanboying.
This coming from an Uchiha fan, whose judgment is clouded by hate, bias and salt.
Hilarious. :lmao:
 

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Says an Uchiha fap. You guys should stop reading too much fanfic. Always getting things from the Manga wrong or twisting what happened to fit your narrative. :lol



Where did you pull this fanfic from? When did Naruto get raped by Kurama no difficulty? If that was true, Kurama would've finished things before Kushina got involved.



He was dealing with Kurama, the most powerful tailed beast after all. At that point Naruto was still at Pain arc level.



Didn't I say he had help?



On his own, sure Naruto was going to lose, he still wasn't powerful enough at the time. However you're absolutely wrong to say it'd be no difficulty.



I acknowledged he had help, what did you want me to say?
Oh Naruto had tremendously immense helpsjkfnfjnsdkfskfvmwnituxkfkf. :nosebleed: <---Like that? :lol
Who did most of the heavy lifting? Oh yeah Naruto. Not surprised with your response though. Anything to downplay Naruto right? Like your life depends on it. XD



Their chakra mass doesn't change whether they cooperate or not. Or are you implying that a fodder infant can house tailed beasts' as long as they cooperate?



After a fight, sure Naruto was gonna lose, as he evidently wasn't fully ready to take him on yet.



If Naruto's will is pathetic, then that makes 99% of NV's will utter trash.



There is and Naruto has plenty of both.



lol Bold is nothing but salt talking.
It seems you didn't understand the situation. Naruto was distraught at what Obito did(killing the people he cared/fights for) or do I have to bring some scans so you can see for yourself.



When he wasn't a JJ. His will was impressive no doubt, but as time went on, Naruto's will grew stronger.



Sorry to disappoint, but that is highly unlikely. :sigar:



Says the one who let's hatred towards fictional characters as well as fanboying towards anything Uchiha interfere with his judgement.



Triggered much? lmao
Clearly it's you faps who spout fanfic to no end and try passing them off as facts. It's beyond me how you can come up with such things. Pity.



Only one without proof here is you. Most of your statements are false and can't be proved, but for some reason you keep insisting on it.



He never says that Rinnegan is necessary nor a requirement to maintain control as a JJ



Bold isn't stated anywhere.
Kushina binds the Kyuubi via her chakra chains, but it isn't the only means to bind it.



Because he wasn't the original owner.



lol No it's not. Nowhere does it say that Ocular Power grants you willpower. It's just something you made up.



I already stated he had help.



You're silly if you think that ones will remains the same. Naruto's willpower who faced against 50% Kurama isn't the same as the Naruto who fought in the war or the Naruto during TL or current Naruto.



Okay? Obito or anyone else for that matter would have the same reaction if they attempted to measure it's power.



Not with a Rinnegan. lol



Yet you've got nothing to back this up. Face it, Rinnegan isn't needed. :win:




Only BS to you because it goes against every spec of fanfic you've spouted, passing it off as facts.



Good, because what I've provided is exactly what happened in the Manga. I'm not you, who takes what happens in the Manga and changes it to fit your narrative. You keep exposing yourself more and more. How disappointing.



Really? Outright denying Manga scans and says I'm twisted things? Lmfao!!!
Can't say I'm surprised though. You're fanfic incarnate, you thrive on such things.



I don't plan on letting go of facts. You should let go of your fanfics, it'll do you some good.



Educate? Educate yourself first. Read the Manga for starters.
Sharingan wasn't removed for Obito get a better grip on the Rinnegan which better gripped The Jubi.
Hell the Sharingan wasn't removed at all. The Manga scans I provided showed Obito getting teared apart. I love how you're singling out the Sharingan to prove your baseless point. :lol




The Rinnegan wasn't used to control the Juubi. At all. Get this fanfic outta here.



Take your own advice. You keep grasping fanfics.



Twisting what Kishimoto drew to suit your fanfic eh?
Look at the whole scene, don't single out the Sharingan to support something so baseless. Kishi made things clear, Obito through willpower managed to maintain control of the Juubi.



Says the one who has absolutely no proof to back up his petty fanfics.



It is sad. I pity you. :)



Again, you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how foolish that sounds? XD



Present the Databook.



Only one with brittle IQ's skull is you. Can't even bring evidence to support what you type.



There's no such thing as Ocular power "will".
Provide me a scan that states Ocular Powers provides "will".



Oh boy, this oughta be good. XD



Naruto didn't inherit the chakra chains that Kushina used to restrain the Kyuubi.
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What are you on about?
Only thing that is being argued is the sad fanfic you've been spouting.
All I've done is providing facts, shutting down such fanfics. :hint:



Go ahead, this isn't the first time you've blatantly ignored facts. :lol




It's not about the type. Why don't you explain Bee, Yugito Nii and Yagura as well then. I'll wait. :lol



You think that's why Minato sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto? Rofl.
Read the Manga. That isn't the reason.



The Rinnegan isn't required to do so, you get that through your dull IQ.



Hashirama's cells nor the Sharingan grant willpower. That's purely made up fanfic by you.




Okay?



Basically saying the Rinnegan isn't a necessity.



Great? But I'm not the one bringing mindless fanfics. That's all you and what's worse is that you're desperately trying to change what happened in the Manga to suit your baseless argument.



Yet you've claimed Rinnegan to be a necessity. Make up your mind. :lol



You can use all the examples you'd like. The point still stands, The Rinnegan isn't required as stated by Madara.
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That is basically the basis of your argument that the Rinnegan is required to control the Juubi or to maintain control as a Juubi Jin, but it isn't, as proven by the Manga.



Obviously.



Yet you can't comprehend the Manga, since you keep denying what's in it and only believe the foolish things you type.



That's cute, but the Rinnegan wasn't used at all in controlling any stage of the Juubi. The only thing that was emphasized was Hashi's cells, going by what Madara said to Obito in making the link stronger.



Only one filled with retarded ass excuse's theory is you. Can't even back up what you state. Nothing in the Manga supports your petty argument.



Madara already told Obito that awakening the Rinnegan isn't a necessity to control the Juubi.



Black Zetsu needed someone to awaken the Rinnegan so they can break the seal and summon the Gedo Statue. Before that the Gedo Statue was sealed away in the moon. It's purpose wasn't to be used VS The Juubi. It's right there in the Manga. Give it a read, that way you'll be more informed.



Anyone who is a Juubi Jin and has absorbed the Shinju tree gains the RinneSharingan and by default is capable of casting Infinite Tsukuyomi, whether you already possess the Rinnegan or not. That is a fact. :hint:



Of course you would say that. You can't counter them after all.



Oh please, that's all you do. Running your mouth with fanfic after fanfic and passing them off as facts, when they are not.
You're logic is broken, nothing you say can be taken seriously. :sigar:



This coming from an Uchiha fan, whose judgment is clouded by hate, bias and salt.
Hilarious. :lmao:
This guy. :lol.

No, your little IQ isnt comprehending the fact Kurama state Naruto inherited Kushina's Chakra which why he can control the Kyuubi, which that trashfanfic's of a yours are ignoring blatantly. Read the Manga with that trashIQ of a yours instead of a babbli'ng on about logic and passing narratives as facts when you're the one pass fanfic's and disgust narrative's as a fact's. The irony in yourself. :lol Your IQ is that little I'm crying here for that is sad lmao. :lol Chakra Chains is a secret Uzumaki jutsu go read the Manga with that eyesight which is below utter BS of a yours. Inheriting chakra doesnt give Chakra Chains all youve shown uptill now is that unescapable ignoranc'e IQ of a yours revealed in every one of your salty post's sad Jubi plus Shinju isnt the only requirement he himself says when you approach the moon with both the Rinnegan the middle eye'll open. Dont argue this again your fanfic's I've no need of, its full of excuses and salt anyway's.:lol Jubi plus Rinnegan is needed to maintain control which wont change no matter how much you deny fact and try pass your BS as facts.:lol Deal with it.:lol Hashirama cells and Uchiha powers are needed to control the first form of jubi which is what I meant but your brainl'ess IQ interpreted it into both of them are the only requirement needed.:lol Gedo isnt jubi so youve no point so your fanfic's dispose of utter completely.:lol Ocular and Hashirama's powers give the will necessary and no will remain's the same no matter what age and that is what yourself must get through it's dull skull so that we can maintain a rational discussion and take facts as it is.:lol Go read it your interpretations will be twist and proved wrong if you take the time doing that.:lol

His whole body ripped off yet his sharingan was shown cracking whereas Rinnegan wasnt shown cracking. Dont argue this. He regained control after his Sharingan was shown breaking. Dont argue this. He claimed he lost himself because of the Rinnegan. Dont argue this. He never mentioned The Jubi when he talked about losing his mind so youve to throw that fanfic of a yours whereit belongs/provide proof to validate your little claim's. Dont argue this without a Manga scan proving above.

Lmao how ironic. Me the fanfic incarnate yet youre fabboy passing utter fanfic as fact's. :lol What are you then? BS incarnat'e? :lol Controlling the Gedo require no Rinnegan but The Jubi does, so unless you can prove that wrong all youll say/spou't'll fall on deaf ears.:lol. Yagura and the rest are from special Bloodlines. The Kumo Shinobi wont try so hard to capture Kushina if her special chakra wasnt necessary now would they.:lol Your logic that cannot be called/even laughed as such, had unfortunately crumble crashe'd.:lol Sorry to Say.
 
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This guy. :lol.
This troll.
Learn how to structure sentences properly. You're making yourself out to be an ignorant child with the way you put things. XD

No, your little IQ isn't comprehending
It's your nonexistent IQ that isn't comprehending things and it shows.

the fact Kurama state Naruto inherited Kushina's Chakra which why he can control the Kyuubi,
Bring me the scan that Kurama himself states that the reason he can control the Kyuubi is due to inheriting Kushina's Chakra. Word for word.

which that trashfanfic's of a yours are ignoring blatantly
I'm not ignoring anything. Nor am I bringing trashfanfics, that's all you. What's more is the fact that you've repeatedly failed to address some things. How convenient, only saying what you want to say as if it's law, but nothing to back them up. Typical of a troll such as yourself.

. Read the Manga with that trashIQ of a yours
I'd advice you to do so, but unfortunately your IQ is straight up garbage. Even if you read the Manga, I feel like you'd still believe your own repulsive fanfic over the facts presented.

instead of a babbli'ng on about logic and passing narratives as facts
How is it babbling when that's what you've been doing? Thinking yourself logical when you are not. Passing your own narratives as facts, when they are not.

when you're the one pass fanfic's and disgust narrative's as a fact's.
Who is the one spouting fanfic on a daily basis? You are.

Who is the one pushing them as facts no matter how hard you get shut down? You are.

Who is the one who keeps disregarding the Manga in favor of his opinion/speculations? You are.

Honestly it's pathetic that you keep doing such things. :rolleyes:

The irony in yourself. :lol
There is no irony. Just you playing yourself.

Your IQ is that little I'm crying here for that is sad lmao. :lol
Yet again you've resorted to spouting gibberish. That's how you know you've taken one too many massive L's. Lmao.

Chakra Chains is a secret Uzumaki jutsu go read the Manga with that eyesight which is below utter BS of a yours.
Did I say otherwise? Because it seems that's what you are getting at. Damn your mind is messed up. Such a sad sight for you. It seems delusion has gotten the better of you. :lol

Inheriting chakra doesnt give Chakra Chains
When did I say it did?

all youve shown uptill now is that unescapable ignoranc'e IQ of a yours revealed in every one of your salty post's sad
Actually it's the other way around. That's all you do. You display ignorance on a daily basis coupled with severe delusion and butthurt. Your salty ass posts don't help either. Then there's your IQ, which is nonexistent, considering what you keep typing. I think it's time your parents took away your computer or whatever you use, that way you won't be spreading such cancer.

Jubi plus Shinju isnt the only requirement he himself says when you approach the moon with both the Rinnegan the middle eye'll open.
Then explain Kaguya? The only thing she possessed was the RinneSharingan and Byakugan.
Obito merely had one and he was going to use IT anyway via the God Tree.
Meaning that having both Rinnegan isn't a requirement.

Dont argue this again your fanfic's I've no need of,
No worries, I don't argue against facts nor do I bring fanfics like you.

its full of excuses and salt anyway's.:lol
Yeah you are definitely full of excuses and salt. Obviously. :lol

Jubi plus Rinnegan is needed to maintain control
Yet you have no proof of that.

which wont change no matter how much you deny fact and try pass your BS as facts.:lol
Needed the Rinnegan to maintain control isn't a fact, that won't change.
That's the thing you keep denying the truth and pass your ludicrous fanfics as facts. :lol

Deal with it.:lol
I'll deal with facts, not your silly fanfics.

Hashirama cells and Uchiha powers are needed to control the first form of jubi which is what I meant
Maybe, but more emphasis was put on Hashirama's cells.

but your brainl'ess IQ interpreted it into both of them are the only requirement needed.:lol
What are you rambling on about. You've said that they are the requirement needed.
It seems that you're the only one with brainless IQ, who keeps misinterpreting things.

Gedo isnt jubi so youve no point so your fanfic's dispose of utter completely.:lol
The Gedo Statue is the husk/vessel. Combine it with the Bijuus and it equates to the Juubi. If you deny that, then we can add it to more of your failed BS fanfics.
At Bold, more gibberish. Is it so hard to type properly? Lmfao.

Ocular and Hashirama's powers give the will necessary
Ocular nor Hashirama's powers grant will. Where is the proof? Bring me scans saying they do.

and no, will remain's the same no matter what age
And again, you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how extremely foolish that sounds? XD

and that is what yourself must get through it's dull skull
So I have to take your sad fanfics and get it through my skull? No thanks, I don't need such things.

so that we can maintain a rational discussion
Rational? Lmfao!!!!
I've stayed rational since day 1. You on the other hand? That ship sailed when you started spouting petty fanfics and getting extra salty when you get shut down. You are the very definition of irrational.

and take facts as it is.:lol
I always do. Don't you worry about that. :hs:

Go read it your interpretations will be twist and proved wrong if you take the time doing that.:lol
I don't need to twist my interpretations nor are they proved wrong, since they come from a canon source. You know that thing(Manga) you keep disregarding. If anything it's you who gets proved wrong due to your twisted interpretations.

His whole body ripped off yet his sharingan was shown cracking whereas Rinnegan wasnt shown cracking.
Again singling out the Sharingan to prove your baseless point.
Take a look at the whole scene this time.
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Rin is the reason for it all or at the very least the catalyst. She is also cut via the picture. Through willpower he pulls himself together for her. Nothing to do with the Rinnegan. It's not that hard to understand, but nitpicking is what you do after all.

Dont argue this.
I won't argue against facts. Too bad that's not what you bring.

He regained control after his Sharingan was shown breaking.
Through willpower as explained above.

Dont argue this.
I won't argue against facts. Too bad that's not what you bring.

He claimed he lost himself because of the Rinnegan.
Which was Pre JJ, not during. He said he almost lost himself, which more than likely happened after transplanting the eye.

Dont argue this.
I won't argue against facts. Too bad that's not what you bring.

He never mentioned The Jubi when he talked about losing his mind
Which was pre JJ, not during. There was no need to mention the Juubi since the topic at hand was about the Rinnegan.

so youve to throw that fanfic of a yours wherein belongs
What fanfic?
You're the one who has to throw the fanfic of yours where it belongs.

/provide proof to validate your little claim's.
I've repeatedly provided manga scans throughout this discussion, yet you're doing no such thing. How are you gonna try to pass your little claims/statements as facts without proof to validate them. All you have is your own words, which isn't worth a damn thing.

Dont argue this without a Manga scan proving above.
Like I said above, I've repeatedly provided manga scans throughout this discussion, yet you're doing no such thing. How are you gonna try to pass your little claims/statements as facts without proof to validate them. All you have is your own words, which isn't worth a damn thing.

Lmao how ironic.
There is no irony. Just you playing yourself. :hint:

Me the fanfic incarnate yet youre fabboy passing utter fanfic as fact's. :lol
Yes you are fanfic incarnate. Any sane person would concur.
And no I'm not passing utter fanfic as fact's. Don't confuse me with yourself. ;)

What are you then? BS incarnat'e? :lol
Nah, you can have that title as well. I'm not interested as it doesn't suit me. :hs:

Controlling the Gedo require no Rinnegan but The Jubi does,
And where does it say the one requires the Rinnegan to control the Juubi?

so unless you can prove that wrong all youll say/spou't'll fall on deaf ears.:lol.
You want me to prove it wrong, yet you've failed to prove yourself right despite me asking for it. Of course what I say to you will fall on deaf ears. After all you're not one to accept facts, only fanfics.

Yagura and the rest are from special Bloodlines.
As I asked in the other post,
Why don't you explain Bee, Yugito Nii and Yagura as well then. What are their special chakra's? You seem to think that you know. I'll wait.

The Kumo Shinobi wont try so hard to capture Kushina if her special chakra wasnt necessary now would they.:lol
Necessary for what? Sure they wanted her for her special chakra, but it wasn't mentioned what they planned to do.
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The most logical answer is for military purposes, since years later they attempted to kidnap Hinata.

Your logic that cannot be called/even laughed as such, had unfortunately crumble crashe'd.:lol Sorry to Say.
My logic is solid, unlike yours, which is all over the place, sorry to break it to ya. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Btw congrats on another one of your many L's. :sigar:

Also bring me them scans I asked for proving the various points you attempt to make and attempt to pass as facts, otherwise they remain as petty fanfics. :snick:
 

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This troll.
Learn how to structure sentences properly. You're making yourself out to be an ignorant child with the way you put things. XD



It's your nonexistent IQ that isn't comprehending things and it shows.



Bring me the scan that Kurama himself states that the reason he can control the Kyuubi is due to inheriting Kushina's Chakra. Word for word.



I'm not ignoring anything. Nor am I bringing trashfanfics, that's all you. What's more is the fact that you've repeatedly failed to address some things. How convenient, only saying what you want to say as if it's law, but nothing to back them up. Typical of a troll such as yourself.



I'd advice you to do so, but unfortunately your IQ is straight up garbage. Even if you read the Manga, I feel like you'd still believe your own repulsive fanfic over the facts presented.



How is it babbling when that's what you've been doing? Thinking yourself logical when you are not. Passing your own narratives as facts, when they are not.



Who is the one spouting fanfic on a daily basis? You are.

Who is the one pushing them as facts no matter how hard you get shut down? You are.

Who is the one who keeps disregarding the Manga in favor of his opinion/speculations? You are.

Honestly it's pathetic that you keep doing such things. :rolleyes:



There is no irony. Just you playing yourself.



Yet again you've resorted to spouting gibberish. That's how you know you've taken one too many massive L's. Lmao.



Did I say otherwise? Because it seems that's what you are getting at. Damn your mind is messed up. Such a sad sight for you. It seems delusion has gotten the better of you. :lol



When did I say it did?



Actually it's the other way around. That's all you do. You display ignorance on a daily basis coupled with severe delusion and butthurt. Your salty ass posts don't help either. Then there's your IQ, which is nonexistent, considering what you keep typing. I think it's time your parents took away your computer or whatever you use, that way you won't be spreading such cancer.



Then explain Kaguya? The only thing she possessed was the RinneSharingan and Byakugan.
Obito merely had one and he was going to use IT anyway via the God Tree.
Meaning that having both Rinnegan isn't a requirement.



No worries, I don't argue against facts nor do I bring fanfics like you.



Yeah you are definitely full of excuses and salt. Obviously. :lol



Yet you have no proof of that.



Needed the Rinnegan to maintain control isn't a fact, that won't change.
That's the thing you keep denying the truth and pass your ludicrous fanfics as facts. :lol



I'll deal with facts, not your silly fanfics.



Maybe, but more emphasis was put on Hashirama's cells.



What are you rambling on about. You've said that they are the requirement needed.
It seems that you're the only one with brainless IQ, who keeps misinterpreting things.



The Gedo Statue is the husk/vessel. Combine it with the Bijuus and it equates to the Juubi. If you deny that, then we can add it to more of your failed BS fanfics.
At Bold, more gibberish. Is it so hard to type properly? Lmfao.



Ocular nor Hashirama's powers grant will. Where is the proof? Bring me scans saying they do.



And again, you're saying that the will of an infant remains the same all throughout his/hers life. Be it when he/she's a child, a teen, an adult or an elderly. Do you see how extremely foolish that sounds? XD



So I have to take your sad fanfics and get it through my skull? No thanks, I don't need such things.



Rational? Lmfao!!!!
I've stayed rational since day 1. You on the other hand? That ship sailed when you started spouting petty fanfics and getting extra salty when you get shut down. You are the very definition of irrational.



I always do. Don't you worry about that. :hs:



I don't need to twist my interpretations nor are they proved wrong, since they come from a canon source. You know that thing(Manga) you keep disregarding. If anything it's you who gets proved wrong due to your twisted interpretations.



Again singling out the Sharingan to prove your baseless point.
Take a look at the whole scene this time.
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Rin is the reason for it all or at the very least the catalyst. She is also cut via the picture. Through willpower he pulls himself together for her. Nothing to do with the Rinnegan. It's not that hard to understand, but nitpicking is what you do after all.



I won't argue against facts. Too bad that's not what you bring.



Through willpower as explained above.



I won't argue against facts. Too bad that's not what you bring.



Which was Pre JJ, not during. He said he almost lost himself, which more than likely happened after transplanting the eye.



I won't argue against facts. Too bad that's not what you bring.



Which was pre JJ, not during. There was no need to mention the Juubi since the topic at hand was about the Rinnegan.



What fanfic?
You're the one who has to throw the fanfic of yours where it belongs.



I've repeatedly provided manga scans throughout this discussion, yet you're doing no such thing. How are you gonna try to pass your little claims/statements as facts without proof to validate them. All you have is your own words, which isn't worth a damn thing.



Like I said above, I've repeatedly provided manga scans throughout this discussion, yet you're doing no such thing. How are you gonna try to pass your little claims/statements as facts without proof to validate them. All you have is your own words, which isn't worth a damn thing.



There is no irony. Just you playing yourself. :hint:



Yes you are fanfic incarnate. Any sane person would concur.
And no I'm not passing utter fanfic as fact's. Don't confuse me with yourself. ;)



Nah, you can have that title as well. I'm not interested as it doesn't suit me. :hs:



And where does it say the one requires the Rinnegan to control the Juubi?



You want me to prove it wrong, yet you've failed to prove yourself right despite me asking for it. Of course what I say to you will fall on deaf ears. After all you're not one to accept facts, only fanfics.



As I asked in the other post,
Why don't you explain Bee, Yugito Nii and Yagura as well then. What are their special chakra's? You seem to think that you know. I'll wait.



Necessary for what? Sure they wanted her for her special chakra, but it wasn't mentioned what they planned to do.
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The most logical answer is for military purposes, since years later they attempted to kidnap Hinata.



My logic is solid, unlike yours, which is all over the place, sorry to break it to ya. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Btw congrats on another one of your many L's. :sigar:

Also bring me them scans I asked for proving the various points you attempt to make and attempt to pass as facts, otherwise they remain as petty fanfics. :snick:
- Bring me the scan stating you dont need Rinnegan to control Jubi. Dont bring Gedo Scan as thats not the Jubi otherwise your fanfic's will keep get shutted down. No my logic is perfect and awe-inspiring its your logic which is below filt'hfanfic as far as everyone is concerned, no one take's fanfic's gipperish babbler's seriously:lol sorry to say. =D Kyuubi stated you need special chakra to control him and this is the fact which your fanfic's tras'hbrain shouldnt attempt argue =D kumo ninja kidnapped her for making her the Jinchuuriki of Eight Tails my facts are great and almighty its just you twists narrative's and pass off as facts though I didnt expect anything less this is what we expect from a brainless trolls =D Special Chakras exist in the Jinchuuriki they're yet not revealed, dont argue that unless you wanna look a bit ignorance =D Juubi required Rinnegan, the Rinnegan didnt crack, but the Sharingan did which is the Proof which it seems your retard fanfic's cant begin to grasp quit already while your behind Obito had Rinnegan, Madara had Rinnegan, Kaguya had Rinnegan + Mangekyou Sharingan which the usual gibberish you spouting will not alterate even a bit=D how you hold onto your a little fanfics while I keep sh!tted them down on a daily basis is far beyond me I only spout fact's you gotta find a way to deal with it instead of spout butthurt, intense delusion's fanfic's=D coupled with a severe case of salt=D All you since I'm shut the a fanfic's which ignorantly dispel fact's which is the one you keep spout/write/blabber's on about=D keep ignore the fact's and, spouting fanfic's I'll setting the mark straight and debunk even more a harder than before with my facts.=D Bring Scans or your desperately fanfic's will get debunked/ignorance thro'wn out of the a window Juubi controlling require Rinnegan willpower dont argue this it'll be blatant ignore. ;)

Sasuke controlled/suppressed the Kyuubi with Sharingan
Obito did with Sharingan, Madara did. Hashirama cells were to strengthen a bond when they werent the Jinchuuriki so your point's blabber all over lol a greater stage of Kyuubi need's a greater eye to be controlled, that Eye is The Rinnegan. Bring proof/everything you say will be given no zero attention and value. Absolutely pea zero type of a value itll be given. Go on bring Proof =D instead of a cryin'g and whinin'g with a brittle break IQ salt of a yours=D.
 

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- Bring me the scan stating you dont need Rinnegan to control Jubi.
You're the one claiming that Rinnegan is necessary to control the Juubi, so you bring me the scan stating such a thing word for word.

Dont bring Gedo Scan as thats not the Jubi otherwise your fanfic's will keep get shutted down.
Gedo Statue is the Juubi's husk aka shell. And no worries, since I'm not the one bringing in fanfics, nothing of mines will get shut down. The same can't be said for you.


No my logic is perfect and awe-inspiring
Roflmao!!!
Your logic is incoherent, it's the furthest thing from being perfect. It only inspires stupidity.

its your logic which is below filt'hfanfic
No not really, since my logic is factual.

as far as everyone is concerned,
Correction : "As far as you're concerned".
The majority would disagree with you.

no one take's fanfic's gipperish babbler's seriously:lol sorry to say. =D
So what you are saying is that you don't want to be taken seriously? Given that what you just said is exactly what you've been doing. In that case, let just say that you don't have to be sorry, I already know you are not someone who can nor should be taken seriously. ;)

Kyuubi stated you need special chakra to control him and
Bring me the scan that Kurama himself states that the reason he can control him is due to inheriting Kushina's Chakra. Word for word.

this is the fact which your fanfic's tras'hbrain shouldnt attempt argue =D
What fact? You call it that, but when questioned, you can't back it up.
You don't want people to argue that, because then you'll have to provide evidence, but since you clearly don't have any, it's all BS. So the one with fanfic's tras'hbrain is you.

kumo ninja kidnapped her for making her the Jinchuuriki of Eight Tails
Where is this stated? That they kidnapped her for the purpose of making her the Jin of the Eight Tails. Is that why they tried to kidnap Hinata years later for making her a Jin too? Even though they already had Bee as a perfect Jin?

my facts are great and almighty
More like fanfics and no they are definitely not great nor almighty. :lol

its just me who twists narrative's and pass off as facts
Fixed.

though I didnt expect anything less this is what we expect from a brainless trolls =D
You're the only brainless troll here. That is obvious.

Special Chakras exist in the Jinchuuriki they're yet not revealed, dont argue that unless you wanna look a bit ignorance =D
If you can't prove your point, then don't make any. I won't argue against facts, but your ignorant self has only brought fanfics.

Juubi required Rinnegan,
No it doesn't.

the Rinnegan didnt crack, but the Sharingan did which is the Proof
Already debunked this laughable logic of yours. Refer to my previous post.

which it seems your retard fanfic's cant begin to grasp quit already while your behind
Only one with retarded fanfics is you and it seem you can't grasp the facts being shoved in your face. Pity.

Obito had Rinnegan, Madara had Rinnegan, Kaguya had Rinnegan + Mangekyou Sharingan
:lmao: You are a pro at making a fool out of yourself.
Here's a quote from you :
Jubi plus Shinju isnt the only requirement he himself says when you approach the moon with both the Rinnegan the middle eye'll open.
You said "Both the Rinnegan". Now it's as long as they have a Rinnegan? That backpedal! XD
Anyway Kaguya only possessed the Byakugan and RinneSharingan. Not both Rinnegan like you mentioned in regards to Madara.

which the usual gibberish you spouting will not alterate even a bit=D
Only one spouting gibberish is you and it shows. This a common thing with you. :lol

how you hold onto your a little fanfics
What fanfics? The only thing I hold on to are facts. I'm not you who goes to great lengths to defend such atrocious nonsense.

while I keep sh!tted them down on a daily basis is far beyond me
Haha you do no such thing. If anyone is shutting fanfics down, it's me and in your case it has to been on constantly. It's unbelievable that you actually believe the foolish things you type. :lol

I only spout fact's you gotta find a way to deal with it instead of spout butthurt, intense delusion's fanfic's=D coupled with a severe case of salt=D
Hilarious. You don't even know what a fact is. Otherwise you wouldn't say that. Most of what you type equates to being fanfic, but you are pathetically blind to that fact.
Gotta love your replies though, they are filled to the brim with salt, butthurt and extreme delusion.
Basically you are rustled beyond repair. XD

All you since I'm shut the a fanfic's which ignorantly dispel fact's which is the one you keep spout/write/blabber's on about=D
:lmao: First of all, take some classes in english you need it, given this sorry a$$ post of yours. It fits the very definition of the word gibberish.
Secondly, you shut nothing down, sorry to break it to ya, I'm the one doing so.
Lastly, you keep ignorantly denying the facts that have been shoved in your face and only reply with sad fanfics, desperately trying to pass them off as facts. It's embarrassing to be honest.


keep ignore the fact's and, spouting fanfic's
That's the thing, I don't ignore facts like you do nor do I spout fanfics like you do. Hell you're the one denying the Manga.

I'll setting the mark straight and debunk even more a harder than before with my facts.=D
You'll be doing no such thing nor have you debunked anything at all. It's pathetic that you actually believe that.
Also don't talk about facts, you seem to get that word mixed up with the word fanfics. Learn how to use them, otherwise you'll keep making yourself look like an even bigger fool.

Bring Scans
You're the one making such statements, so why don't you go and bring them to me, oh wait I forgot, you don't have any, otherwise you would've presented them a long time ago. Typical of you.

or your desperately fanfic's will get debunked/ignorance thro'wn out of the a window
If only that were true, for your sake.
Unfortunately since what I have are facts, you won't be debunking a thing. No worries, I'll continue to debunk and wreck all of your fanfics instead since that's what I've been doing all along. :hs:

Juubi controlling require Rinnegan willpower dont argue this it'll be blatant ignore. ;)
And where is the scan stating such a thing word for word? Of course you don't want me to argue that, you don't have proof supporting such a thing and sure go ahead and ignore it, it wouldn't be the first time you ignore facts or the Manga for that matter. :th:

Sasuke controlled/suppressed the Kyuubi with Sharingan
He suppressed, not controlled, a fraction of the Kyuubi's chakra. Not very impressive.

Obito did with Sharingan, Madara did. Hashirama cells were to strengthen a bond when they werent the Jinchuuriki so your point's blabber all over
Using Genjutsu. :hint:
But no Rinnegan as you constantly have been yammering. Thanks for proving my point.

lol a greater stage of Kyuubi need's a greater eye to be controlled, that Eye is The Rinnegan.
Not really lol. It definitely wasn't used in regards to the Juubi, that's for sure.

Bring proof/everything you say will be given no zero attention and value.
Why don't you bring proof, since you're the one creating such statements, otherwise they won't be taken seriously at al and will be regarded as nothing more than fanfics. You know? That thing you spout on a daily basis. :lol

Absolutely pea zero type of a value itll be given. Go on bring Proof =D
Like I said above, Why don't you bring proof, since you're the one creating such statements, otherwise they won't be taken seriously at al and will be regarded as nothing more than fanfics. You know? That thing you spout on a daily basis.
Or is it that you can't do it? Well don't worry, I expect nothing less from you. xd

instead of a cryin'g and whinin'g with a brittle break IQ salt of a yours=D.
Lmao, that's all you buddy. Crying and whining like a little brat.
This is always what it comes to with you. You lay down some retarded foolish statements, and when someone questions them, you argue against them while adding more fanfics into the mix. They present Manga scans against you and what do you do? You take them and twist what happened to fit your narrative and try passing them off as facts. Then you get shut down even more, so what do you resort to next? Oh yeah, you defensively resort to spouting atrocious gibberish like a child. One of the many many examples being that god awful sentence of yours. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Btw Where are them scans though? I've asked repeatedly, but you keep dodging. Here I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and a chance to prove yourself right and you don't take it. Could it be that you don't possess such evidence to back up your statements? Go on child, get them scans. I'll wait. :sigar:
 

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You're the one claiming that Rinnegan is necessary to control the Juubi, so you bring me the scan stating such a thing word for word.



Gedo Statue is the Juubi's husk aka shell. And no worries, since I'm not the one bringing in fanfics, nothing of mines will get shut down. The same can't be said for you.




Roflmao!!!
Your logic is incoherent, it's the furthest thing from being perfect. It only inspires stupidity.



No not really, since my logic is factual.



Correction : "As far as you're concerned".
The majority would disagree with you.



So what you are saying is that you don't want to be taken seriously? Given that what you just said is exactly what you've been doing. In that case, let just say that you don't have to be sorry, I already know you are not someone who can nor should be taken seriously. ;)



Bring me the scan that Kurama himself states that the reason he can control him is due to inheriting Kushina's Chakra. Word for word.



What fact? You call it that, but when questioned, you can't back it up.
You don't want people to argue that, because then you'll have to provide evidence, but since you clearly don't have any, it's all BS. So the one with fanfic's tras'hbrain is you.



Where is this stated? That they kidnapped her for the purpose of making her the Jin of the Eight Tails. Is that why they tried to kidnap Hinata years later for making her a Jin too? Even though they already had Bee as a perfect Jin?



More like fanfics and no they are definitely not great nor almighty. :lol



Fixed.



You're the only brainless troll here. That is obvious.



If you can't prove your point, then don't make any. I won't argue against facts, but your ignorant self has only brought fanfics.



No it doesn't.



Already debunked this laughable logic of yours. Refer to my previous post.



Only one with retarded fanfics is you and it seem you can't grasp the facts being shoved in your face. Pity.



:lmao: You are a pro at making a fool out of yourself.
Here's a quote from you :

You said "Both the Rinnegan". Now it's as long as they have a Rinnegan? That backpedal! XD
Anyway Kaguya only possessed the Byakugan and RinneSharingan. Not both Rinnegan like you mentioned in regards to Madara.



Only one spouting gibberish is you and it shows. This a common thing with you. :lol



What fanfics? The only thing I hold on to are facts. I'm not you who goes to great lengths to defend such atrocious nonsense.



Haha you do no such thing. If anyone is shutting fanfics down, it's me and in your case it has to been on constantly. It's unbelievable that you actually believe the foolish things you type. :lol


Hilarious. You don't even know what a fact is. Otherwise you wouldn't say that. Most of what you type equates to being fanfic, but you are pathetically blind to that fact.
Gotta love your replies though, they are filled to the brim with salt, butthurt and extreme delusion.
Basically you are rustled beyond repair. XD



:lmao: First of all, take some classes in english you need it, given this sorry a$$ post of yours. It fits the very definition of the word gibberish.
Secondly, you shut nothing down, sorry to break it to ya, I'm the one doing so.
Lastly, you keep ignorantly denying the facts that have been shoved in your face and only reply with sad fanfics, desperately trying to pass them off as facts. It's embarrassing to be honest.




That's the thing, I don't ignore facts like you do nor do I spout fanfics like you do. Hell you're the one denying the Manga.



You'll be doing no such thing nor have you debunked anything at all. It's pathetic that you actually believe that.
Also don't talk about facts, you seem to get that word mixed up with the word fanfics. Learn how to use them, otherwise you'll keep making yourself look like an even bigger fool.



You're the one making such statements, so why don't you go and bring them to me, oh wait I forgot, you don't have any, otherwise you would've presented them a long time ago. Typical of you.



If only that were true, for your sake.
Unfortunately since what I have are facts, you won't be debunking a thing. No worries, I'll continue to debunk and wreck all of your fanfics instead since that's what I've been doing all along. :hs:



And where is the scan stating such a thing word for word? Of course you don't want me to argue that, you don't have proof supporting such a thing and sure go ahead and ignore it, it wouldn't be the first time you ignore facts or the Manga for that matter. :th:



He suppressed, not controlled, a fraction of the Kyuubi's chakra. Not very impressive.



Using Genjutsu. :hint:
But no Rinnegan as you constantly have been yammering. Thanks for proving my point.



Not really lol. It definitely wasn't used in regards to the Juubi, that's for sure.



Why don't you bring proof, since you're the one creating such statements, otherwise they won't be taken seriously at al and will be regarded as nothing more than fanfics. You know? That thing you spout on a daily basis. :lol



Like I said above, Why don't you bring proof, since you're the one creating such statements, otherwise they won't be taken seriously at al and will be regarded as nothing more than fanfics. You know? That thing you spout on a daily basis.
Or is it that you can't do it? Well don't worry, I expect nothing less from you. xd



Lmao, that's all you buddy. Crying and whining like a little brat.
This is always what it comes to with you. You lay down some retarded foolish statements, and when someone questions them, you argue against them while adding more fanfics into the mix. They present Manga scans against you and what do you do? You take them and twist what happened to fit your narrative and try passing them off as facts. Then you get shut down even more, so what do you resort to next? Oh yeah, you defensively resort to spouting atrocious gibberish like a child. One of the many many examples being that god awful sentence of yours. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Btw Where are them scans though? I've asked repeatedly, but you keep dodging. Here I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and a chance to prove yourself right and you don't take it. Could it be that you don't possess such evidence to back up your statements? Go on child, get them scans. I'll wait. :sigar:
Are you braindead? How much time have I been repeating the same sh!t to you disg'usting little faps? Can you even read with that weakass st'upid assexcuse of a brain of a yours Kushina had special chakra so selected by kumo nin aint no nobody gonna change facts ki'ddo. S-omething that tras'hwe'akbrain of a yours cant seem to comprehend and desperate pass a ga'rbage as a fact's. How ironic. =D To be a Juubi Jinchuuriki, you need special ocular chakra but I'm sure your little atomic crap of a IQ brain cant grasp that much as youre desperately passing that utter gibberish of a post you call a fi'lthfanfic as fact's but it doesnt amaze as thats what you do on a daily: post idiotica'lly atrioci'ous BS and support it with more illite'ratefanfic's when youre lacking in the fact department Rinnegan has its own chakra and power this special chakra is whats dominating the Jubi. Naruto's tra'shwill couldnt even win the tug of war without his mother's help does that make you shed a tear?=D well ofcourse it does as its your lord/cra'psaviour who cant even win a match without other help proven this's a measure of his a little we'akwill.=D I'll keep shutt down the crying and wai'ling which you do on a daily dont you worry about that.=D Sho've fact's in that ret'ard resemble face of a yours isnt helping a cause it seems sad.=D Naruto cant be Jubi Jin deal with it what a ignorance self youve right here poor pe'asant the ki'd cant deal with the fact his saviour isnt upto par Sharingan is cracked and Rinnegan survived to control the Jubi. Tobi had Jubi and a Rinnegan he casted IT through a tree. Madara and Kaguya casted it themselves. Go read the manga instead of revealing more of that butthurt, salt full to rim delusion fanfic's of a yours.=D I'll give you one more opportunity to prove your st'upid litt'le self with fact's will you do it/succeed this time around? Doubt it as your such a incompete'nt BScrap of a poster and its gettin'g sad tbh. Go on lil child get the facts this time and throw your baseless fanfic's f'ilth of a post in the BS where they belong dont think youll prove your self's worth this time around even though as passing false narrative's as delusional's fact's is you strive to do best.=D
 
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Yes he easily is still the strongest character currently. Naruto mentions it himself in the Manga.

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