Is sarutobi equally to blame for the Uchiha Genocide

[Scryed]

If he would've stopped the Uchiha clan's massacre, it would be possible that there wouldn't be a fire country anymore if other nations would have invaded. It's also possible that an entire war would've started before the one that they're currently in. He did what was best for the village if others wanted to attack it. It was either the Uchiha clan, or the village he was supposed to protect.

 

[KingHashirama]

If he would've stopped the Uchiha clan's massacre, it would be possible that there wouldn't be a fire country anymore if other nations would have invaded. It's also possible that an entire war would've started before the one that they're currently in. He did what was best for the village if others wanted to attack it. It was either the Uchiha clan, or the village he was supposed to protect.

Who said it was either the uchiha clan or the village.. The uchiha had more love for the village then anyone like Danzo did... like Sarutobi himself said "they are old war comrades".

 

[james brown]

You are judging Danzou based on his final moment and that is where you are badly mistaken. Danzou was evil. Maybe in his final moment he tried to redeem himself and you have mistaken it for heroism. ... How naive of you xd

yeah people seem to forget danzo working with orochimaru plotting with hanzo. wanting tsunade dead and out of the way. and killing one of narutos toads so he wouldnt get word to naruto about the attack on konoha. he also tried to use genjutsu during the kage summit. im pretty sure that isnt allowed.

 

[sWAy253]

You sir, are a class A moron. The police ARE part of the Gov't, they are a service that the gov't runs, the post office is also part of the Gov't. Hiruzen wasnt a bad Hokage, you cant punish everyone who disagress with you, thats a DICTATOR. Get a clue bro, you're very clearly an awful troll

The police are not part of the goverment. They are run by the city. The post office, which is a federal establishment is ran by the goverment. Just like your local Sheriff's Department is ran by the county. So before you go off calling people morons check your sh1t first.

 

[Omnislash X SageMode]

I understand that he didn't want them to be killed. But in the end He letted a follower of Madara's way run part of the Konoha goverment. And is the Hokage who putted the shame to the leaf..

Hokage is suppose to be the protector.. ALL shinobi in the village are his family. Also, Its right to kill a whole clan?? a clan that made konoha?? a clan HAshirama had respect for?. Sarutobi is at a big fault here.

:rofl::rofl::roflUUUUUUDE....STOP....MAKING WORDS UP!!! you even used the word putted LOLOLOLOL!!!! no one putted the shame on the leaf except your troll spelling and madara/sauske

Say "letted" one more time bro, i dare you

Imagine a face to face conversation with this being said constantly

IMO i dont think danzo even knew his decision would lead to his own demise let alone itachi going rouge or his lil brother...

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Kyuubi attack:
Ino's, Choji's, and Shika's Dad:

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Shino's clan(one in the white coat) and other clans as well:

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where are uchihas??

 

[james brown]

The police are not part of the goverment. They are run by the city. The post office, which is a federal establishment is ran by the goverment. Just like your local Sheriff's Department is ran by the county. So before you go off calling people morons check your sh1t first.

im glad someone finally understands that. i was trying like hell to explain that to some guy before. i just eventually stopped posting to him. his ignorance was painful. plus rep just for knowing that police is not part of goverment.

 

[KingHashirama]

:rofl::rofl::roflUUUUUUDE....STOP....MAKING WORDS UP!!! you even used the word putted LOLOLOLOL!!!! no one putted the shame on the leaf except your troll spelling and madara/sauske


Imagine a face to face conversation with this being said constantly

IMO i dont think danzo even knew his decision would lead to his own demise let alone itachi going rouge or his lil brother...

im assuming "DUUUUUDE" is a word according to you then??

 

[KingHashirama]

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Ino's, Choji's, and Shika's Dad:

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Shino's clan(one in the white coat) and other clans as well:

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Hyuuga clan:

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where are uchihas??

Well then Point proven man . So they were there. But what about shino's clan???. was kiba's clan there to??... lol.

(yes i know they were there, they just weren't shown..). << that is the point..also where was Danzo here???...

And also uchiha not shown being there is actually quiet irrelevant to the whole situation.. Since the only reason they were segregated was for "being behind the 9-tails".. :}.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Well then Point proven man . So they were there. But what about shino's clan???. was kiba's clan there to??... lol.

(yes i know they were there, they just weren't shown..). << that is the point..also where was Danzo here???...

And also uchiha not shown being there is actually quiet irrelevant to the whole situation.. Since the only reason they were segregated was for "being behind the 9-tails".. :}.

No they thought.....you know you're not even worth it since you are just hate on hiruzen OR you're just a naive little kid like stated other people....but one thing I wanna get off my chest you think that sharing the coup d'état to the leaf village would have made the situation better???? Lol soooo stupid if they had shared that than the Uchiha name would pummeled to the ground the name would have lost all respect and the clan would be hated and wiped out by other clans and there is a reason why Itachi told naruto to shut up when he was talking about it

 

[KingHashirama]

No they thought.....you know you're not even worth it since you are just hate on hiruzen OR you're just a naive little kid like stated other people....but one thing I wanna get off my chest you think that sharing the coup d'état to the leaf village would have made the situation better???? Lol soooo stupid if they had shared that than the Uchiha name would pummeled to the ground the name would have lost all respect and the clan would be hated and wiped out by other clans and there is a reason why Itachi told naruto to shut up when he was talking about it

Like Itachi's dad told itachi " the way we think is differnt"... Itachi didn't think the same way as the uchiha did. That is why some call him Danzo's pet.. Even though it is incorrect.

Also you called me Sarutobi's hater. Where have i shown hate towards Sarutobi??

And also Sharing the coup d'etat would have left it to the shinobi on who is right.. ok. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO RESPONED TO UCHIHA WERE the 4 old people not even the FEUDAL LORD knew about this..

you guys call me naive BUT act like naive people yourself.

You guys are stuck to what Danzo "TOUGHT COULD " happen.. Instead of what Sarutobi tought and what the coup was really about. I actually did my research. That is why i made the thread. Ok.

and those same people who called naive.. Called Danzo a damn hero..

 

[AWSUM SID]

Like Itachi's dad told itachi " the way we think is differnt"... Itachi didn't think the same way as the uchiha did. That is why some call him Danzo's pet.. Even though it is incorrect.

Also you called me Sarutobi's hater. Where have i shown hate towards Sarutobi??

And also Sharing the coup d'etat would have left it to the shinobi on who is right.. ok. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO RESPONED TO UCHIHA WERE the 4 old people not even the FEUDAL LORD knew about this..

you guys call me naive BUT act like naive people yourself.

You guys are stuck to what Danzo "TOUGHT COULD " happen.. Instead of what Sarutobi tought and what the coup was really about. I actually did my research. That is why i made the thread. Ok.

and those same people who called naive.. Called Danzo a damn hero..

Listen kid, the uchiha were good but were taking a bad decision that would eventually destroy the village. A coup is not such a small decision that one can back out of.
Danzo was a shady character but did what was best for konoha Danzo had shown no emotions in his adult years and killing was natural to him- probably due to that incident with the second hokage and the 3 wars he had witnessed. If you think about it, all of his actions were justified.
Sarutobi was not to be blamed as his personal feelings contradicted his duties as hokage. It was Danzo who had to take the decision that would lead to the demise of one clan but not the whole village.

 

[Orochimagus]

Danzo is more of an anti-hero. Again, ethics are beyond him and he does what he believes to be the logical thing. People think Itachi is a hero, but the likes of Naruto, Ichigo, and that rubber boy from One Piece would have chosen Hiruzen's side and tried to find a different solution. A villain does something out of malice alone, like when Tobi got a stiffie from Sasuke's attack on Karin. Danzo is never shown to enjoy those things, and is just watching out for the village. Again, Sarutobi was not aware of what happened until it was too late since he was busy trying to find an alternative.

 

[KingHashirama]

Listen kid, the uchiha were good but were taking a bad decision that would eventually destroy the village. A coup is not such a small decision that one can back out of.
Danzo was a shady character but did what was best for konoha Danzo had shown no emotions in his adult years and killing was natural to him- probably due to that incident with the second hokage and the 3 wars he had witnessed. If you think about it, all of his actions were justified.
Sarutobi was not to be blamed as his personal feelings contradicted his duties as hokage. It was Danzo who had to take the decision that would lead to the demise of one clan but not the whole village.

First of all do you even know if im a kid?? z

And also, Coup is not a bad decision.. I can agree that they probably should've went to the feudal lord..

Its basically what itachi's dad told Itachi when he was about to kill them. They just didn't think the same way. Uchiha knew how to run a village they weren't your average clan that was trying to take over..ok. When they felt Hashirama was best to lead they let him lead same for the other Hokages.. But Konoha took it too far.. and after Sarutobi came back from retirement He lost his decisiveness.

You stated what Danzo did was for Konoha.. probably true.. but he has also let konoha get invaded and not anything about it.. Hes also worked with the enemy..just to become Hokage.. THIS reminds me of a another man called Uchiha madara.. Who also believed in the same thing Danzo believed in..Get rid of whichever challenges your rule.. Madara did alot to protect konoha too..

Tsunade actually set those 2 geezers up straight. (when she defied them about naruto and told them to stick to their roles).

the uchiha massacre cannot be justified.. Im pretty sure you have read the current chapters with the Talk between Danzo and Itachi..

Danzo himself stated that it didn't matter if there was a war or not, but when the uchiha start a coup they will be eliminated.

and also idk where you got "demise of the village".. cause Uchiha loved the village more then Danzo..

 

[KingHashirama]

Danzo is more of an anti-hero. Again, ethics are beyond him and he does what he believes to be the logical thing. People think Itachi is a hero, but the likes of Naruto, Ichigo, and that rubber boy from One Piece would have chosen Hiruzen's side and tried to find a different solution. A villain does something out of malice alone, like when Tobi got a stiffie from Sasuke's attack on Karin. Danzo is never shown to enjoy those things, and is just watching out for the village. Again, Sarutobi was not aware of what happened until it was too late since he was busy trying to find an alternative.

i agree with mostly everything you wrote. But i would say Danzo plays the same part in Sarutobi's life, that Madara did in Hashirama's life.

 

[Wulff]

Hiruzen was indeed trying to evade the Uchiha massacre..He wanted to talk it out but Danzo was impatient.
Hiruzen wasn't wimpy.

korek!

 

[Wulff]

Just granting the Uchiha a place in the government wouldn't have changed anything. You're obviously a Hiruzen hater and letted isn't a word.

you're right dude... and letted him, it's his opinion. LOL

 

[Wulff]

Like Itachi's dad told itachi " the way we think is differnt"... Itachi didn't think the same way as the uchiha did. That is why some call him Danzo's pet.. Even though it is incorrect.

Also you called me Sarutobi's hater. Where have i shown hate towards Sarutobi??

And also Sharing the coup d'etat would have left it to the shinobi on who is right.. ok. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO RESPONED TO UCHIHA WERE the 4 old people not even the FEUDAL LORD knew about this..

you guys call me naive BUT act like naive people yourself.

You guys are stuck to what Danzo "TOUGHT COULD " happen.. Instead of what Sarutobi tought and what the coup was really about. I actually did my research. That is why i made the thread. Ok.

and those same people who called naive.. Called Danzo a damn hero..

it's really far from reality that Danzo can be called a hero. The only basis of yours here to tell Sarutobi is equally to blame for the Uchiha's massacre is not punishing Danzo. Not punishing Danzo by Sarutobi is actually hiding the real truth for Uchiha's clan massacre. If Sarutobi jailed or punished Danzo, the village will ask what's his sin, and letting the people know what Uchiha's clan plan is really a big issue. they might agree to Danzo's and that will be a bigger issue. Cause even all the jonin and chunin don't have idea why Itachi did it. But sure when Sarutobi found out that Itachi is on the move, surely he will stop him. Cause until in the last minute Sarutobi stands for not killing the Uchiha. He really stands on talking to them. It's just Danzo really don't like Sarutobi because he's his rival on the Hokage position. If Sarutobi convince the Uchiha's, that will solidify his Hokage position and Danzo will really will be out of chance to become Hokage. Don't forget, it's his Dream!!!

Sarutobi really has the Leadership ability. Only a person with Leadership type of thinking can understand the true leadership. Coup is the way of foolish people.

Itach's dad was proud of him. They may don't like it but they just don't have the guts to oppose their clan.

Think now! Who really is to blame to the Uchiha's massacre?

 

[Dead Ninja]

I'm in the minority, in that I respect both Danzo and Hiruzen's actions in the whole situation. I completely disagree with the op. Hell in fact, you seem quite dense op.... especially with all the great arguments and facts thrown against you.

 

[Orochimagus]

Tobirama set the police district as an act of good faith. The Uchiha didn't give a damn about the village, but more-so their injured pride. Their pride was enough to merit civil war and the dangers that would come to the Leaf because of that. Such an extreme act would merit the extreme measures Danzo took. Heck, these people could not even govern themselves properly. They abused Izanagi and they had to punish EACH OTHER. Tobirama and Hiruzen had a tough issue at hand.