Is Naruto Stronger Than Sasuke?

[The Demon Hawk]

Frog Kata has insane range and with Shadow clones and RSM being able to tank Chidori. Nagashi won't do jack to him

No, Frog Kata's range is not the slightest bit impressive, it's fairly limited. It is pretty useless against even moderate ranged jutsus. Chidori Nagashi has a much greater range compared to it. Frog Kata will get fodderized before application.

Shadow clones are unimportant because they don't increase the range of Frog Kata. They will just apply the same technique from different angles and will get fodderized as well.

And BTW, Sage Mode is not allowed for Naruto (according to the OP's conditions) so Frog Kata is also not allowed. But I'm still being lenient with your argument because Sage Mode and Frog Kata won't do jack to Sasuke.

@underlined Sorry! You ain't allowed to go this far. Even SM is not allowed for Naruto. And now you're dragging in RSM? Just because I'm being lenient with your SM inclusion doesn't mean you can stretch further and include RSM as well. And you really need to pressurize Naruto that far to counter non-Sharingan & non-Rinnegan Sasuke? LOL. Just shows how strong Sasuke is in your sight.

Same applies with amaterasu/Enton

Exactly. But according to OP's conditions, Sharingan is not allowed for Sasuke, so no Amaterasu/Enton.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

It is already started that chidori can't be used without sharingan.I don't think sasuke would be able to see anything properly without his doujutsus active

Chidori can be used without Sharingan. It just won't be as precise, but a trained Sasuke can hit it right even without Sharingan. And BTW, Chidori is only the parent jutsu. All other Chidori variants can easily be used without Sharingan.

yup but they tank shinra tensei

Only a weak Shinra Tensei.

Thank you, but Naruto and Sasuke can potentially utilize genjutsu(the latter even sans Sharingan), because Jiraiya once stated that one must possess a high level of intellect to utilize genjutsu.

Weren't you the one who imposed the condition that Sasuke was purged of Sharingan? So in light of that, how does he have genjutsu? Yeah, both of them can potentially utilize genjutsu (especially Sasuke), but since they don't have any genjutsu feats, we aren't giving them free genjutsu feats to fill up their arsenal. Sasuke didn't do any genjutsu without Sharingan and Rinnegan, and Naruto didn't do any genjutsu at all.

 

[Ripple Hole]

The problem with this is even without Kurama Naruto can still use
hundreds of shadow clones. There's no way in hell Sasuke can fight
them off without sharingan's precog.

To top things off Sasuke's signature move is heavily reliant on his sharingan,
or else he'd be unable to react to enemy counters when he's diving in.

Sasuke loses a lot of things without sharingan.

 

[DHOH]

The problem with this is even without Kurama Naruto can still use
hundreds of shadow clones. There's no way in hell Sasuke can fight
them off without sharingan's precog.

To top things off Sasuke's signature move is heavily reliant on his sharingan,
or else he'd be unable to react to enemy counters when he's diving in.

Sasuke loses a lot of things without sharingan.

Simple katons and rations wipe out most of the clones..

 

[Ripple Hole]

Simple katons and rations wipe out most of the clones..

Most .

 

[Shruikan]

Link please.

Read the synopsis of the Bolt Movie.Kishi states that Sasuke's true abilities are that he is on par with Naruto

 

[DHOH]

Most .

Yea like all but 5-10 and Sasuke can match those with anything in his arsenal

 

[Shruikan]

Wasn't due to PNJ. It was due to his goals in life. He achieved them in the end and now has more Wealth, power, influence, and responsibility than Sasuke could ever dream of.

Thing is Sasuke never wanted any of these things

He even got his Son the best teacher possible.

Sasuke took him under his wing.Naruto had nothing to do with it

He even treats Sarada and all the villagers as if they were family and in return so do they.

Yawn

Everytime they have a kage Summit or important meeting it's in Konoha.

The other Kages are fodders and merely placeholders for Naruto's orders so .....

Everytime Sasuke finds something out he reports to Naruto personally.

They are cooperating.Thus has nothing to do with stature

 

[Ripple Hole]

Yea like all but 5-10 and Sasuke can match those with anything in his arsenal

:d leleleleleleel

Thing is Sasuke never wanted any of these things




Sasuke took him under his wing.Naruto had nothing to do with it


Yawn





The other Kages are fodders and merely placeholders for Naruto's orders so .....


They are cooperating.Thus has nothing to do with stature

Shoo you clopper.

 

[DHOH]

Base Naruto has resengan and clones base Sasuke has 4-5 katons, 4-5 rations, sword, wire..

Sasuke run ration through his sword and Naruto has absolutely no counter.. He could take out all 1000 clones with this one jutsu.. Naruto has little to no chance of winning.

 

[Shruikan]

Base Naruto has resengan and clones base Sasuke has 4-5 katons, 4-5 rations, sword, wire..

Sasuke run ration through his sword and Naruto has absolutely no counter.. He could take out all 1000 clones with this one jutsu.. Naruto has little to no chance of winning.

Don't forget Kirin

 

[DHOH]

Don't forget Kirin

I included Kirin in when I mentioned his Ration jutsu, but Kirin might force Sasuke to use up to much chakra with just Katon alone... I did forget to add Sasuke have clones also.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Kirin GG.
Base Naruto doesn't have speed to avoid that. U_U
Assuming Saucekay can manage to cut distance
between themselves.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Frog song gg. Frog Kata gg.

 

[KingHashirama]

Par: equality in status level.. Even/equal

So again, same level =/= equal in fighting.

Roger > Garp, despite being the same level.

 

[BoBoKittyDuck]

Simple katons and rations wipe out most of the clones..

yeah goodluck, hopefully sasuke can do a 360 no scope Katons lol

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[Blackzoro]

No, Frog Kata's range is not the slightest bit impressive, it's fairly limited. It is pretty useless against even moderate ranged jutsus. Chidori Nagashi has a much greater range compared to it. Frog Kata will get fodderized before application.

Shadow clones are unimportant because they don't increase the range of Frog Kata. They will just apply the same technique from different angles and will get fodderized as well.

And BTW, Sage Mode is not allowed for Naruto (according to the OP's conditions) so Frog Kata is also not allowed. But I'm still being lenient with your argument because Sage Mode and Frog Kata won't do jack to Sasuke.

@underlined Sorry! You ain't allowed to go this far. Even SM is not allowed for Naruto. And now you're dragging in RSM? Just because I'm being lenient with your SM inclusion doesn't mean you can stretch further and include RSM as well. And you really need to pressurize Naruto that far to counter non-Sharingan & non-Rinnegan Sasuke? LOL. Just shows how strong Sasuke is in your sight.



Exactly. But according to OP's conditions, Sharingan is not allowed for Sasuke, so no Amaterasu/Enton.

Lmao did you really say chidori nagashi? That attack that naruto took on in base and got up like a few second later? This is SM naruto with durability speed precog strenght and Frog kata to throw ghost punches and you are saying chidori nagashi counters lmao? And thats like only if sasuke has lightning on him while fighting chidori nagashi is a stand still technique. I refuse to believe that you think chidori nagashi would do anything to SM naruto when he fell in rock spikes without even feeling a thing. Use a better counter

 

[DHOH]

yeah goodluck, hopefully sasuke can do a 360 no scope Katons lol

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I guess you forgot how Sasuke handle the clones on the rooftop or at vote1

 

[DHOH]

So again, same level =/= equal in fighting.

Roger > Garp, despite being the same level.

Well no there's to many levels to a fighting with a shinobi.
Sasuke has the advantage in Nin,intell,Gen, and seals
Naruto has strength and chakra
They tie in Taiand speed. But are still equal.

 

[Lord Tywin]

No Sharingan means no chidori, which is the only threatening technique in Sasuke's arsenal. Base Sasuke gets steamrolled by Naruto.