[Question] is luffy >>> rest of supernovas?

[Ace of the fire fist]

seems like he is to me i think law is second but luffy >> law.. why is gap so large between luffy and others?

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

MC shield. Jk its just who he is, he has the most feared ability ever seen since gold roger. The ability to turn those around him into an allie.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

MC shield. Jk its just who he is, he has the most feared ability ever seen since gold roger. The ability to turn those around him into an allie.

yea but talking about fighting strength everyone else is bums apart from law even kid is overrated all he do is basically shoot metal shit wtf fodder ability with no potential

 

[Love Cook]

How can you come to that conclusion after seeing next to nothing of the other Supernova's after the timeskip ?

He was pictured around Kidd's and Law level pre-skip. After the timeskip we know Urouge took out a sweet commander. Kidd got wiped by a yonkou. Law is keeping up with Luffy. Drake is allied with a Yonkou and a possible commander.

Personally I think Drake is the strongest supernova, Law by a small margin because Luffy is dumb and if Law has him in his room he will get toyed with like the enraged army did to him. And storywise it would make sense to have Kidd around there too.

I really don't think Luffy has a main character shield when it comes to power levels because Oda isn't afraid to give him a beating now and then. It would make more sense from a story tellers perspective if he isn't the very strongest of the group on the halfway point of the series. Now there still is some growth potential.

Drake
Luffy/Law/Kidd
Urouge
Rest

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

luffy know laws ability he have better haki and g4 to much for law. kid have bum ability his repel fruit just attract fodder sword and guns? lol luffy knock him out to and drake is to unknown right now but he seem most well rounded beside luffy/law because of df and cqc ability. urouge is nothing but brute strength luffy eat these people for lunch lol g4 would end him

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Pre timeskip Kidd said luffy is in a league of his own. Meaning he's above the rest before.

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But as of now, timeskip wise Urouge has been hyped or portrayed with the better feats now. I still think Luffy is the strongest followed by Kidd and the rest.

 

[Wrappering_]

luffy know laws ability he have better haki and g4 to much for law. kid have bum ability his repel fruit just attract fodder sword and guns? lol luffy knock him out to and drake is to unknown right now but he seem most well rounded beside luffy/law because of df and cqc ability. urouge is nothing but brute strength luffy eat these people for lunch lol g4 would end him

Urouge is not just brute strength, wtf. He took out one of the sweet commanders, and his fruit converts all the damage he takes into stamina that makes him even stronger and sturdier. Urouge with Haki levels as high as Luffy's would give Luffy a run for his money.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Urouge is not just brute strength, wtf. He took out one of the sweet commanders, and his fruit converts all the damage he takes into stamina that makes him even stronger and sturdier. Urouge with Haki levels as high as Luffy's would give Luffy a run for his money.

urogue is slow as fk bro all he do is wind up on his power punch luffy is to quick to strong u cant beat luffy with 1 dimension approach like urouge

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Urouge is not just brute strength, wtf. He took out one of the sweet commanders, and his fruit converts all the damage he takes into stamina that makes him even stronger and sturdier. Urouge with Haki levels as high as Luffy's would give Luffy a run for his money.

Well right now Luffy grabbed Big mam's first mate for a one on one battle. If he somehow succeeds, then luffy will ascend from warlord level to the likes of a low admiral level. Only a first mate and above can beat 1 admiral in a one on one match.

 

[OG sama]

How can you come to that conclusion after seeing next to nothing of the other Supernova's after the timeskip ?

He was pictured around Kidd's and Law level pre-skip. After the timeskip we know Urouge took out a sweet commander. Kidd got wiped by a yonkou. Law is keeping up with Luffy. Drake is allied with a Yonkou and a possible commander.

Personally I think Drake is the strongest supernova, Law by a small margin because Luffy is dumb and if Law has him in his room he will get toyed with like the enraged army did to him. And storywise it would make sense to have Kidd around there too.

I really don't think Luffy has a main character shield when it comes to power levels because Oda isn't afraid to give him a beating now and then. It would make more sense from a story tellers perspective if he isn't the very strongest of the group on the halfway point of the series. Now there still is some growth potential.

Drake
Luffy/Law/Kidd
Urouge
Rest

Law ain't beating Luffy quit hating, Luffy knows laws abilities he isn't a complete idiot like your making him seem.

And I don't expect Drake to be stronger than the other SNs in Wano no way, Drake probably wouldn't even beat Jack and is most likely Kaidos 4th strongest commander. They will be on the same level, unless Luffy actually beats Katakuri that is, everything changes then.

 

[chopstickchakra]

yea but talking about fighting strength everyone else is bums apart from law even kid is overrated all he do is basically shoot metal shit wtf fodder ability with no potential

Somebody doesn't read X-Men

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Law, Drake, Urouge, and maybe Kidd are close to him, strength wise, I think the first 3 might have a legitimate claim to them being stronger though.

 

[Love Cook]

Law ain't beating Luffy quit hating, Luffy knows laws abilities he isn't a complete idiot like your making him seem.

And I don't expect Drake to be stronger than the other SNs in Wano no way, Drake probably wouldn't even beat Jack and is most likely Kaidos 4th strongest commander. They will be on the same level, unless Luffy actually beats Katakuri that is, everything changes then.

Yes Law would beat Luffy because Luffy IS an idiot. He always struggles against Devil Fruits and tries to power through them. Law's fruit is the worst for that.

Do you believe Law is that weak that he can't get one hit in ?
Yes -> lol, not even going to discuss with you anymore.
No -> Luffy loses a bodypart

Besides Law is fast enough to react to Gear 2, has strong enough haki to hurt Vergo and Doffy. Can teleport Luffy from and to anywhere he wants within his room. has an enormous range.

Luffy as a close ranged fighter is at a huge disadvantage against someone who only needs to hit you with the swing of his sword that doesn't have to connect. No way Luffy can dodge all that and know all the tricks to Law's power.

 

[OG sama]

Yes Law would beat Luffy because Luffy IS an idiot. He always struggles against Devil Fruits and tries to power through them. Law's fruit is the worst for that.

Do you believe Law is that weak that he can't get one hit in ?
Yes -> lol, not even going to discuss with you anymore.
No -> Luffy loses a bodypart

Besides Law is fast enough to react to Gear 2, has strong enough haki to hurt Vergo and Doffy. Can teleport Luffy from and to anywhere he wants within his room. has an enormous range.

Luffy as a close ranged fighter is at a huge disadvantage against someone who only needs to hit you with the swing of his sword that doesn't have to connect. No way Luffy can dodge all that and know all the tricks to Law's power.

With the logic your using Law should have beat Doflamingo all on his own but instead he needed Luffys help and vice versa.

G4 luffy blitzes and beats his ass and Law wont even be fast enough to react. His only chance of victory would be to attack Luffy while he's trying to transform. And Luffy isn't a complete idiot, he's seen how Law uses his powers multiple times, what your saying is so unrealistic, and I dont even think you believe it.

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

yea but talking about fighting strength everyone else is bums apart from law even kid is overrated all he do is basically shoot metal shit wtf fodder ability with no potential

kid is magneto of one piece, wouldnt be surprise to see him moving the very ground/islands himself from the metal ions embedded into the rocks could even rival the quack quack fruit . law has immortality and a very OP DF hes just fodder to max. luffy has friends and for some weird reason a huge amount of haki and alot more hidden potential that we have yet to see.

 

[Sakazuki]

How can you come to that conclusion after seeing next to nothing of the other Supernova's after the timeskip ?

He was pictured around Kidd's and Law level pre-skip. After the timeskip we know Urouge took out a sweet commander. Kidd got wiped by a yonkou. Law is keeping up with Luffy. Drake is allied with a Yonkou and a possible commander.

Personally I think Drake is the strongest supernova, Law by a small margin because Luffy is dumb and if Law has him in his room he will get toyed with like the enraged army did to him. And storywise it would make sense to have Kidd around there too.

I really don't think Luffy has a main character shield when it comes to power levels because Oda isn't afraid to give him a beating now and then. It would make more sense from a story tellers perspective if he isn't the very strongest of the group on the halfway point of the series. Now there still is some growth potential.

Drake
Luffy/Law/Kidd
Urouge
Rest

Luffy > Drake.

Putting a ex rear admiral over Luffy? No super nova is beating Luffy. Dressrossa proved that enough

And going by feats urouge is the 2nd strongest.

 

[Sakazuki]

Yes Law would beat Luffy because Luffy IS an idiot. He always struggles against Devil Fruits and tries to power through them. Law's fruit is the worst for that.

Do you believe Law is that weak that he can't get one hit in ?
Yes -> lol, not even going to discuss with you anymore.
No -> Luffy loses a bodypart

Besides Law is fast enough to react to Gear 2, has strong enough haki to hurt Vergo and Doffy. Can teleport Luffy from and to anywhere he wants within his room. has an enormous range.

Luffy as a close ranged fighter is at a huge disadvantage against someone who only needs to hit you with the swing of his sword that doesn't have to connect. No way Luffy can dodge all that and know all the tricks to Law's power.

Nah, anyone with any common sense would know just by how the Manga has turned out that luffy > law.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

kid is magneto of one piece, wouldnt be surprise to see him moving the very ground/islands himself from the metal ions embedded into the rocks could even rival the quack quack fruit . law has immortality and a very OP DF hes just fodder to max. luffy has friends and for some weird reason a huge amount of haki and alot more hidden potential that we have yet to see.

we will have to wait to see kid development because pre skip feat was fodder but luffy about to end argument by beating katakuri

 

[Love Cook]

With the logic your using Law should have beat Doflamingo all on his own but instead he needed Luffys help and vice versa.

G4 luffy blitzes and beats his ass and Law wont even be fast enough to react. His only chance of victory would be to attack Luffy while he's trying to transform. And Luffy isn't a complete idiot, he's seen how Law uses his powers multiple times, what your saying is so unrealistic, and I dont even think you believe it.

Your only using speculation. You don't know anything about Law's reaction time. But we do know he is at least fast enough to react to Gear second and redirect it. Gear fourth isn't that much faster than gear second. In the fight against Doffy Luffy said that he needed the speed of 2nd and the power of third a few chapters before 4th was introduced. So it's not that strange to think that Law can also react to Gear 4th speed and switch Luffy out with an other object in his room.

Luffy IS an idiot, in any fight against a Devil fruit user he always struggled and tried to overpower. That won't work against Law. Vergo says hi.

Look at how Luffy fought Cracker, he knew how the fruit worked yet he tried beating the clones over and over again and had to be saved by Nami. Imagine Robin or Sanji fighting Cracker if they were on the same level as Luffy was, do you think they would try to beat Cracker the same way? I don't think so. Nami had the right idea.

What you're saying is unrealistic, Luffy blitz and beats Law ? Name one fight in One Piece with two fighters of similar strength that ended in a blitz and one sided victory.

Luffy > Drake.

Putting a ex rear admiral over Luffy? No super nova is beating Luffy. Dressrossa proved that enough

And going by feats urouge is the 2nd strongest.

Rank says nothing, it's dog shit. Besides you're saying it yourself Ex-rear admiral, means former, means he had time to grow.

No supernova beating Luffy based on Dressrosa ? The only Supernova on Dressrosa were Law and Zoro. I agree that 50% of those supernova won't beat Luffy. Besides Capone you haven't seen anything from the other Supernova. So it's all baseless bullshit, but you're Mr. Akainu wank so I know who is typing this.

Why would Urouge be 2nd strongest based on feats ? What is strength ? Physical strength ? In the Supernova ranking ? Is it based on beating Snack ? How strong was Snack ? Not much feats to go off here yet you're pretty sure he is in second. Not third or first. Just second behind Luffy for some reason.

Drake pre-skip kicked a Pacifista through the air and into a building, was about to take him out until he got surprised by the Kizaru laser modification.

He had feats pre-skip that were better than the monster trio combined. He went into the NW on day one of the timeskip. He has been under Kaidou's flag for 2 years. But everyone here is downplaying Drake for some unknown reason.

If we're talking feats Drake has the best feats, no way around it. Also what a dumb and dull story line would the entire supernova subplot and rivalry be if Luffy was Number 1 from the timeskip. Makes no sense, there has to be growth, otherwise power levels wouldn't make sense to keep other supernova relevant towards the end of the series.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

love cook is making assumption drake grew at same rate as luffy which is bs. luffy train with pk first mate Rayleigh everyday drake carry on with adventure he hiding behind kaido for safety while luffy train his ass off luffy have best haki out of supernova this is fact

luffy >>>> drake