[Question] is luffy >>> rest of supernovas?

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> Warlord level lol

Mihawk is still >>> Luffy lol
Zoro curbed Pica with ease and still remarked he is nowhere near Mihawk

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Mihawk is yonkou level you dumbass. He's the only warlord able to rival a yonkou without getting terribly defeated. It's always one stupid thing after another with you.
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Well right now Luffy grabbed Big mam's first mate for a one on one battle. If he somehow succeeds, then luffy will ascend from warlord level to the likes of a low admiral level. Only a first mate and above can beat 1 admiral in a one on one match.
Seems you confused a mate with a son. Whatever, at least Katakuri doesn't clap and have objects magically appear. What's between Luffy and Cracker is a one sided fight. I think I won't count it as Luffy's victory. The real progress is for one individual to hug it all for himself and for himself alone only. Without any interference in order to get to the next level of power. This upcoming fight between Luffy and Katakuri is a golden chance for Luffy to break his limits. I think we'll get bored of G4 and become hasty for Luffy to gear up one more. Gear 5th or whatever you wanna call it. He must evolve -- like a Pokemon. :p
 

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Seems you confused a mate with a son. Whatever, at least Katakuri doesn't clap and have objects magically appear. What's between Luffy and Cracker is a one sided fight. I think I won't count it as Luffy's victory. The real progress is for one individual to hug it all for himself and for himself alone only. Without any interference in order to get to the next level of power. This upcoming fight between Luffy and Katakuri is a golden chance for Luffy to break his limits. I think we'll get bored of G4 and become hasty for Luffy to gear up one more. Gear 5th or whatever you wanna call it. He must evolve -- like a Pokemon. :p
I thought Katakuri is the strongest son automatically making him the firstmate of the pirate crew? I wasn't going to count the chef because he'll most likely be the 5th strongest. Meh.

I understand that you wouldn't want to count the Cracker fight, but Luffy has had trouble beating people who are able to outlast him in consistent strength which is what Cracker's biscuits have but Dogtooth doesn't have the physical strength to match luffy. So maybe this fight will help luffy maintain his Gear without drawbacks. Like Gear 2 and Gear 3 he doesn't have anymore drawbacks for those gears. Or maybe he'll awaken???
 

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I thought Katakuri is the strongest son automatically making him the firstmate of the pirate crew? I wasn't going to count the chef because he'll most likely be the 5th strongest. Meh.
Hm... I thought Perospero is a 1st commander. This family is messy. Well, Katakuri deserve to be given that much. He is quite promising. A chance for Luffy to level up.
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I understand that you wouldn't want to count the Cracker fight, but Luffy has had trouble beating people who are able to outlast him in consistent strength which is what Cracker's biscuits have but Dogtooth doesn't have the physical strength to match Luffy. So maybe this fight will help Luffy maintain his Gear without drawbacks. Like Gear 2 and Gear 3 he doesn't have anymore drawbacks for those gears. Or maybe he'll awaken???
Apparently Cracker is weak physically. Not that much weak. Just perhaps as strong as -- a~ Blueno? I dunno. It took him one shot and the guy passed out. Only his biscuits what kept the whole fight to last like 10 hours. This fight didn't change Luffy that much. Not like how Luffy been through against Lucci and Doffy. And lucky we have Katakuri who is of the same calibur as Lucci and Doffy. The real fight and suffering is this coming fight between Luffy and Katakuri, and if Oda screwed it up, I'll curse Oda till death. This is not Fairy Fail, and I won't accept any miss of a chance like this.
 

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Hm... I thought Perospero is a 1st commander. This family is messy. Well, Katakuri deserve to be given that much. He is quite promising. A chance for Luffy to level up.

Apparently Cracker is weak physically. Not that much weak. Just perhaps as strong as -- a~ Blueno? I dunno. It took him one shot and the guy passed out. Only his biscuits what kept the whole fight to last like 10 hours. This fight didn't change Luffy that much. Not like how Luffy been through against Lucci and Doffy. And lucky we have Katakuri who is of the same calibur as Lucci and Doffy. The real fight and suffering is this coming fight between Luffy and Katakuri, and if Oda screwed it up, I'll curse Oda till death. This is not Fairy Fail, and I won't accept any miss of a chance like this.
Streusen should be first mate based on the fact that he was co founder shouldn't he? First mate isn't always based off of strength.
 

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Hm... I thought Perospero is a 1st commander. This family is messy. Well, Katakuri deserve to be given that much. He is quite promising. A chance for Luffy to level up.
He's the first son of Linlin and even Luffy's Red hawk one shot his candy maiden. Think of it in this perspective. During the Alabasta arc there are the obvious strong subordinates such as Daz and Bon clay, then there is the hax devil fruit with really strong powers that come in 3rd place in the latter which is Galdino.
Perospero is somewhat the Galdino of the group (3rd-4th) strongest in the Big mam pirates with a very powerful devil fruit with no crazy physical strength to match someone like Luffy, Jinbei, or even Sanji. Still strong enough to beat Pedro but nothing crazy.
Beside that you're right.
Apparently Cracker is weak physically. Not that much weak. Just perhaps as strong as -- a~ Blueno? I dunno. It took him one shot and the guy passed out. Only his biscuits what kept the whole fight to last like 10 hours. This fight didn't change Luffy that much. Not like how Luffy been through against Lucci and Doffy. And lucky we have Katakuri who is of the same calibur as Lucci and Doffy. The real fight and suffering is this coming fight between Luffy and Katakuri, and if Oda screwed it up, I'll curse Oda till death. This is not Fairy Fail, and I won't accept any miss of a chance like this.
Yeah I know Cracker is weak, that's why I said his biscuits are strong. He said his biscuits are physically strong enough to charge into Gear 3. When it comes to the man bodies of the Big mam crew (besides Big mam) they are all not as physically strong as Lucci or even Doflamingo. They're just powerful devil fruit users with expert haki in one field over the other.
Luffy so far in the show has been shown to be physically stronger than his opponents (besides yonkous) but has shitty experience then almost every big name he's encounter. Doflamingo fight for an example...

Gear 2 was faster than Dofy but his techniques were too weak to harm him
Gear 3 was too strong for Dofy to fight head on so Dofy used his speed to by pass it and pummel his face in.
Gear 4 was overall too fast, stronger, and durable than Dofy but his stamina was shit and couldn't last longer than 5 punches to Dofy before deflating.

Regardless of the situation that they were in before the one on one fight, Luffy needs to work on perfecting his Gears and stamina. I think awakening is the way to go.
 

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Regardless of the situation that they were in before the one on one fight, Luffy needs to work on perfecting his Gears and stamina. I think awakening is the way to go.
If the awakening happened, that would confirm that G4 is the last Gear. Perhaps Luffy will awake his DF without knowing that. Just like Haoshoku Haki.
 

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Law is as good as Luffy.Did everyone forgot that he was fighting Fujitora as well?He lost so much power countering a navy admiral and Doflamingo simultaneously.One on one against Doffy,he would perform much better.Plus,gamma knife is pretty much a kill shot.Lucky that doffy had the perfect fruit to counter it,any one else would be knocked out tbh.
 

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That' very true, it could happen. But if Luffy was to have a Gear 5, what would it be? The giant gear mode he used on Moriah?
First, the blood stream, and then the bones, then muscles. There is always a system in human body to be used and call it gear. Hardly and unlikely there is G5.

a) Luffy goes all gears
b) Luffy in G4 hits walls and his punches bounce and go random directions until they hit Katakuri (like Enel)
c) Awakwning

One or the other... or more. Oda is full of surprises.
 

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First, the blood stream, and then the bones, then muscles. There is always a system in human body to be used and call it gear. Hardly and unlikely there is G5.

a) Luffy goes all gears
b) Luffy in G4 hits walls and his punches bounce and go random directions until they hit Katakuri (like Enel)
c) Awakwning

One or the other... or more. Oda is full of surprises.
I'd be super depress if luffy's greatest feat will just to become a giant luffy like all the other giants in the series. His awakening better be like plastic man in dc comics.
 

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I'd be super depress if luffy's greatest feat will just to become a giant luffy like all the other giants in the series. His awakening better be like plastic man in dc comics.
Giant Luffy isn't bad actually. More speed and power. Greater than G4 too. But this idea is unlikely to happen. Since you've been through all these chapters until now, you should know and get used to Oda's unthinkable stuff. Know his patterns.
 

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Giant Luffy isn't bad actually. More speed and power. Greater than G4 too. But this idea is unlikely to happen. Since you've been through all these chapters until now, you should know and get used to Oda's unthinkable stuff. Know his patterns.
Yeah, it's just that I don't want to believe that all it takes is turning into a giant to beat everybody in the world. You're right, he pulls ideas from different mythologies too. Like Gear 4 is from the nio guardians.
Do you think Luffy's awakening will be able to change shapes or regenerate from severed tissues?
 

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Yeah, it's just that I don't want to believe that all it takes is turning into a giant to beat everybody in the world. You're right, he pulls ideas from different mythologies too. Like Gear 4 is from the nio guardians.
Do you think Luffy's awakening will be able to change shapes or regenerate from severed tissues?
As far as I know of Awakening is people like Doffy, Akainu and Aokiji who their awakening turned the surrounding to their elements of their DFs. Most or some readers don't expect Luffy's Awakening DF to occur the same method as the three I mentioned. which I'm lost and wonder if Luffy's Awakening any different? The waiting for an answer by this manga takes quite a long time.
 

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Don't worry, my trolling, homophobic, conspiracy theorist friend. I'm not lying I will show you my evidence then you can show you yours where you think I'm lying.

I said this in reaction to this question:






If you can't see the sarcasm, or the undertone here I feel pretty bad for you. It also makes it extra painful when you're on such a high horse that you keep calling my retarded while non of your arguments stick as a homophobic conspiracy theorist.

But for special people like you I made an extra post in that same thread to explain what I meant. So there is nothing left to guess. See how I even said "Written in the style true wankers can understand" because I already knew that dumb people like yourself would stick on it like flies on shit.



Predictable little moron, I think I have better CoO than Katakuri because I can write posts weeks in advance that still beat anything you're trying to slander me with.

Pretty embarrassing when your lies get swatted by an old post of mine. You could've at least come up with a better lie.
u say anything to avoid admit katakuri > sanji when answer is so obvious u spin answer into "anything can happen" lol u kno damn well sanji get LOW diff by dogtooth luffy about to 1v1 him that mean he on a complete different level.

U have lot to say about conspiracy but can't back claims u only saying way media and public see as correct thing to say you a blind sanji **** eater who have hard time accepting vergo > sanji rn
 

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u say anything to avoid admit katakuri > sanji when answer is so obvious u spin answer into "anything can happen" lol u kno damn well sanji get LOW diff by dogtooth luffy about to 1v1 him that mean he on a complete different level.

U have lot to say about conspiracy but can't back claims u only saying way media and public see as correct thing to say you a blind sanji **** eater who have hard time accepting vergo > sanji rn
This is getting so sad dude, are you still going on about this.

Everyone here knows that I'm objective, and just because I've got a Sanji avatar and signature you keep bringing this up like you found my Achilles heel.

I've said multiple times that Katakuri is far stronger than Sanji at this point. You're just to dumb to read between the lines. But feel free to dig up a post of me where I say otherwise, you have this big mouth on you where you accuse me of stuff. So put your money where your mouth is and put the cards on the table.

You're just a lying little dipshit, you accuse me of stuff you can't prove. You accuse the president of collapsing the Twin Towers, you can't prove that either. You link a fear of gay people to race. That is both racist and homophobic.

So why should I take anything serious from you, You're absolute filth, a scumbag. I'm not going into discussion with you anymore. You can stop quoting me now, go annoy someone else.
 
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Everyone who thinks Luffy>>Law....you are a blob
What? How so?

Are you seriously trying to tell me a guy who wasn't on Doflamingos level is better than the guy who was smacking and blitzing around Doflamingo?

I think its the other way around.

Luffy is about to engage a Yonko FM in battle and people see that and try to downplay Luffy to below Laws level? When will people learn?
 
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