Is God real ??

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LordNarutoSo6P

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That shit never happens. And let's say it did. What about all the other people who pray, in those same kinds of situations, and the shit doesn't work?

Just because you pray, doesn't mean God will give you your prayers instantly. You're misunderstanding it. He's not a genie! Like once you wished, your wish will granted in that instant. NO! God will answer all your prayers when the right time comes. And he will give you answers much more better than what you've asked.
 

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Actually it did happen, if you think about it how did we humans survived as a species up till now?? it definitely wasnt because of our skills, God is the one who has kept us this long. And not every one who prays get their prayers answered, it depends on God
Let me ask you this. Why do some prayers get answered, and some don't? Why do some people get to have God watch over them and allow them to live, when there were people who were just as devoted or more devoted that ended up killed? Did God pick and choose who he wanted to save, and who didn't? If so, that's not a very loving God.

And if God is intervening in our lives, why allow rapists, killers, kidnappers, extortionists, corrupt politicians, all of those evil people, to exist? Why not stop them and erase the evil from their heart? Free will? God values the free will of those evil people more than the lives they take or ruin? God valued Hitler's free will over the Jews, homosexuals, and blacks he killed? God valued the free will of a rapist over the safety of the woman or child he made into victims. I once saw a video on Facebook of a man ****ing a baby. I didn't watch the whole thing, I stopped once I saw him start doing so. God valued that shitbag's free will over that baby? Does that sound like a God worth worshipping?
so you believe in Atlantis or magallanica? :O

You are truly ignorant.
 

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Science was created for the help of humans as a species which is what God wants.
Fun fact: Charle Darwin gave his life to Chist just before he died, and he's one of the first people who didnt believe in God

I believe one of his relatives that was present dismissed this claim. So while we may not know for sure if he didn't, we don't know for sure if he did.
 

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God created the angel that would become Satan, and he knew that he would, yet God chose to create him anyway. God could have simply not created him and stopped the problem from ever happening.

If the sins afterwards aren't forgiven, then what was the point of Jesus' sacrifice when God knows they would have continued?

They didn't. The fruit was from the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Bad. They didn't know the difference from good and bad, or right and wrong, which is why being naked never bothered them until they ate the fruit.

If God didn't create sin, who did? And why did God allow such a thing to exist? Why did God need a sacrifice, why didn't he just remove sin since he wanted to? Who was saying to God, the supreme authority of all the universe "No you can't do this, or I'll punish you."

1.) Remember God created an Angel not an evil being. But technically he did know he was going to become evil so we don't know why he created him. People could only hypothesize

2.) Even though people continued to sin. Jesus made lots of followers of God. I guess the point was to show the world God is real. But your right

3.) Your right

Javaweb don't know what God did these things so people could worship him or not
 
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God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause.
To make it short, NO ONE CREATED HIM. HE HAS ALWAYS EXISTED. HE IS ALWAYS THERE.
everything you just said makes no sense. he created everything but no one created him? your statements contradict each other.
 

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Just because you pray, doesn't mean God will give you your prayers instantly. You're misunderstanding it. He's not a genie! Like once you wished, your wish will granted in that instant. NO! God will answer all your prayers when the right time comes. And he will give you answers much more better than what you've asked.

What about the people that prayed and the right time NEVER came? What of all the devoted religious people who prayed to God and ended up dying anyway?
 

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Science was created for the help of humans as a species which is what God wants.
Fun fact: Charle Darwin gave his life to Chist just before he died, and he's one of the first people who didnt believe in God

"in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind." He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."

Next.
 
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We are Gods army, we slander satan in the name of God, and like all commanders, they are responsible for their subordinates actions.

Since you're religious, please stop using your mobile, your computer, your microwave, car etc. because all of these things were created with the help of science.

LMAO, did the ten commandments say "Thou stall not use technology" you're funny

you seem to be religious to so why are you here if you believe that? (and you're suggesting religious persons are cavemen?) *facepalm*
 

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Let me ask you this. Why do some prayers get answered, and some don't? Why do some people get to have God watch over them and allow them to live, when there were people who were just as devoted or more devoted that ended up killed? Did God pick and choose who he wanted to save, and who didn't? If so, that's not a very loving God.

And if God is intervening in our lives, why allow rapists, killers, kidnappers, extortionists, corrupt politicians, all of those evil people, to exist? Why not stop them and erase the evil from their heart? Free will? God values the free will of those evil people more than the lives they take or ruin? God valued Hitler's free will over the Jews, homosexuals, and blacks he killed? God valued the free will of a rapist over the safety of the woman or child he made into victims. I once saw a video on Facebook of a man ****ing a baby. I didn't watch the whole thing, I stopped once I saw him start doing so. God valued that shitbag's free will over that baby? Does that sound like a God worth worshipping?


You are truly ignorant.

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LMAO, did the ten commandments say "Thou stall not use technology" you're funny

you seem to be religious to so why are you here if you believe that? (and you're suggesting religious persons are cavemen?) *facepalm*

Pollution is a sin, and is necessary for creating everything. You're going to hell just because you're breathing. Why support something that's against your values and beliefs?

I'm not religious, and I never said religious people are caveman, that's just your selective reading.
 
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I don't think so.

But you shouldn't create those kind of topics here. Nothing good will come of talking about this here.

And you're not going to change anyone's opinion, whether they believe it or not.

Seriously? So one must not talk about things he can't change others' opinion about? Please...

Seriously? Didn't you even think and wonder where do us, humans, come from?

There is no point in thinking something that has already been proven. It's called evolution brother. Go read it.

and you say god isn't real without showing proof.

the pot and the kettle.

You are a retard right? Oh yes you are.
 

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I actually have a theory on why God created life.

Throughout the Bible, God has murdered many, many people, and all of these people either didn't follow him, or did things he found wrong. Not once did God murder someone devoted to him. There has been instances where someone who didn't follow God started following God, and THEN the Bible started portraying him in a positive light. There has also been instances where someone who followed God stopped, and the Bible then started portraying them in a negative light. From this, you can conclude that God's purpose of life is to be worshiped.

Now, God created the angels and that was his source of worship. The angels existed for a loooong, long time before God created humans. But if God had his worship from angels, why did he make humans? Well, this ties into why God would create the angel who became Satan and allow sin to exist, despite knowing that both would cause strife for mankind. In fact, I think God allowed these to exist BECAUSE he knew it would cause strife for mankind. See, God created the angels too strong. As shown with Satan, the angels could rebel and, without interference from God, they could survive forever and ever. Angels don't, per se, NEED God.

So God created humans. He made humans vastly inferior to angels, he made them weak, weak enough so that they WOULD need God. But he couldn't just make them imperfect, no, that won't be very loving. He made them perfect. But, that was no problem. God KNEW Satan would trick the first humans and render humans imperfect. This would render humans mortal, and amidst natural disasters and other nefarious humans, need protection, salvation, hope. They'd NEED God. This is why, despite displaying himself as all-loving and having humans' best interest at heart, God has allowed us to suffer under Satan, disaster, sin and death.

It's all to ensure he is worshipped.

That's a fact of life! You can find sickness, sorrow, and suffering in all walks of life. It's everywhere you look. This very moment you can probably think of someone very close to you who is suffering greatly, and it just doesn't seem fair. Why does God allow it to happen? well, the answer is simple. GOD's purpose why he let us suffered is because people are forgetting Him. People are forgetting his existence. He did that so that people will remember him and ask forgiveness for our sins. So that, we can still be saved before the day of our deaths... God really care for His children. That's why, he don't want his child to be like Satan and end up in hell!
 

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The commandment said not to sin. Pollution is a sin, and is necessary for creating everything. You're breaking the commandments just by breathing.

I'm not religious, and I never said religious people are caveman, that's just your selective reading.


you seem conflicted, judging from your other posts you sound like a religious person then you turned "Full Atheist" are is that selective reading again
 
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That's a fact of life! You can find sickness, sorrow, and suffering in all walks of life. It's everywhere you look. This very moment you can probably think of someone very close to you who is suffering greatly, and it just doesn't seem fair. Why does God allow it to happen? well, the answer is simple. GOD's purpose why he let us suffered is because people are forgetting Him. People are forgetting his existence. He did that so that people will remember him and ask forgiveness for our sins. So that, we can still be saved before the day of our deaths... God really care for His children. That's why, he don't want his child to end to be like Satan and end up in hell!

Theeeen, how about he DOESN'T SEND US TO HELL.
 

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Anyways, I'm an agnostic and a skeptic of both religion and scientific research.




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Many people choose to ignore the possibility of bias funding. As for religion, I gave that up about three years ago when certain things just didn't seem logical, and the answers I recieved wasn't satisfactory. I do have a stronger inclination toward the belief of a higher power, however this can be anything really (i.e an "order" of the universe). I tend to believe in a higher power because of personal events I won't disclose :p
 
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