Is God real ??

Status
Not open for further replies.

Punk Hazard

Sage of Six Posts 🔮
Immortal
Joined
Apr 21, 2011
Messages
59,557
Reaction score
4,729
There is also proof, in less developed nations or undeveloped nations, where their isnt good medication, pastors pray for people to be healed and they are healed, so there you have it

That shit never happens. And let's say it did. What about all the other people who pray, in those same kinds of situations, and the shit doesn't work?
 

Sharingan King

Banned
Regular
Joined
Apr 20, 2014
Messages
1,120
Reaction score
126
God created the angel that would become Satan, and he knew that he would, yet God chose to create him anyway. God could have simply not created him and stopped the problem from ever happening.

If the sins afterwards aren't forgiven, then what was the point of Jesus' sacrifice when God knows they would have continued?

They didn't. The fruit was from the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Bad. They didn't know the difference from good and bad, or right and wrong, which is why being naked never bothered them until they ate the fruit.

If God didn't create sin, who did? And why did God allow such a thing to exist? Why did God need a sacrifice, why didn't he just remove sin since he wanted to? Who was saying to God, the supreme authority of all the universe "No you can't do this, or I'll punish you."

You seem to be one of the more intelligent members.
 

Takure

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 31, 2012
Messages
1,261
Reaction score
176
There is also proof, in less developed nations or undeveloped nations, where their isnt good medication, pastors pray for people to be healed and they are healed, so there you have it

Please back up your ridiculous claims with actual evidence.
 

LordNarutoSo6P

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Apr 3, 2014
Messages
1,743
Reaction score
83
say if god created the universe. who created god?

God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause.
To make it short, NO ONE CREATED HIM. HE HAS ALWAYS EXISTED. HE IS ALWAYS THERE.
 

riley freeman

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
4,982
Reaction score
305
you believe in god cause you think the universe had to be created by something, but then you say no one created god. that's a contradiction.

I didnt say i believed in God because i had to believe in something, I believe in God because there are signs that show he exists
 

LordRaikage

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 30, 2011
Messages
6,944
Reaction score
661
Satan gives people free will and allows them to think for themselves. God on the otherhand who is all knowing and created satan punishes humans for enacting this free will, and slanders satan everywhere. Never here a peep out of satan - kinda sounds like he is the bigger man.

Satan gives people free will huh? you know the devil has rules too. God doesn't slander satan humans do.

And from the sound your post you prefer satan over god huh.big man huh you know there are 6 more demons higher than satan right.

Atheists are truly miserable persons who blame god (then say they don't believe in him) for their misfortunes/miserable life.
 

Disquiet

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Feb 8, 2011
Messages
32,590
Reaction score
2,096
I believe in Chonosuke Okamura's suggestions of the evolution theory, that we were once, little men. That may actually explain a lot of our behaviors. :rolleyes:
 
Last edited:

riley freeman

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
4,982
Reaction score
305
That shit never happens. And let's say it did. What about all the other people who pray, in those same kinds of situations, and the shit doesn't work?

Actually it did happen, if you think about it how did we humans survived as a species up till now?? it definitely wasnt because of our skills, God is the one who has kept us this long. And not every one who prays get their prayers answered, it depends on God
 

LordNarutoSo6P

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Apr 3, 2014
Messages
1,743
Reaction score
83
Satan gives people free will huh? you know the devil has rules too. God doesn't slander satan humans do.

And from the sound your post you prefer satan over god huh.big man huh you know there are 6 more demons higher than satan right.

Atheists are truly miserable persons who blame god (then say they don't believe in him) for their misfortunes/miserable life.
Yes, atheist do believe in God. But for some reasons, like God stole everything from them. So, that's why they deny the existence of God and choose satan to rule over their lives. The big question there is that... WHO IS SATAN? WHO CREATED HIM? WHERE DO EVILS COME FROM? If there are evils, then, there is also GOD who created them...
 

Takure

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 31, 2012
Messages
1,261
Reaction score
176
Satan gives people free will huh? you know the devil has rules too. God doesn't slander satan humans do.

And from the sound your post you prefer satan over god huh.big man huh you know there are 6 more demons higher than satan right.

Atheists are truly miserable persons who blame god (then say they don't believe in him) for their misfortunes/miserable life.

We are Gods army, we slander satan in the name of God, and like all commanders, they are responsible for their subordinates actions.

Since you're religious, please stop using your mobile, your computer, your microwave, car etc. because all of these things were created with the help of science.
 
Last edited:

riley freeman

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
4,982
Reaction score
305
Please back up your ridiculous claims with actual evidence.

I dont need to back it up, i've actually seen it happen and if you give God a chance in your life maybe you will too
 

Punk Hazard

Sage of Six Posts 🔮
Immortal
Joined
Apr 21, 2011
Messages
59,557
Reaction score
4,729
I actually have a theory on why God created life.

Throughout the Bible, God has murdered many, many people, and all of these people either didn't follow him, or did things he found wrong. Not once did God murder someone devoted to him. There has been instances where someone who didn't follow God started following God, and THEN the Bible started portraying him in a positive light. There has also been instances where someone who followed God stopped, and the Bible then started portraying them in a negative light. From this, you can conclude that God's purpose of life is to be worshiped.

Now, God created the angels and that was his source of worship. The angels existed for a loooong, long time before God created humans. But if God had his worship from angels, why did he make humans? Well, this ties into why God would create the angel who became Satan and allow sin to exist, despite knowing that both would cause strife for mankind. In fact, I think God allowed these to exist BECAUSE he knew it would cause strife for mankind. See, God created the angels too strong. As shown with Satan, the angels could rebel and, without interference from God, they could survive forever and ever. Angels don't, per se, NEED God.

So God created humans. He made humans vastly inferior to angels, he made them weak, weak enough so that they WOULD need God. But he couldn't just make them imperfect, no, that won't be very loving. He made them perfect. But, that was no problem. God KNEW Satan would trick the first humans and render humans imperfect. This would render humans mortal, and amidst natural disasters and other nefarious humans, need protection, salvation, hope. They'd NEED God. This is why, despite displaying himself as all-loving and having humans' best interest at heart, God has allowed us to suffer under Satan, disaster, sin and death.

It's all to ensure he is worshipped.
 

Gatsuuga

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Messages
6,239
Reaction score
1,031
Satan gives people free will huh? you know the devil has rules too. God doesn't slander satan humans do.

And from the sound your post you prefer satan over god huh.big man huh you know there are 6 more demons higher than satan right.

Atheists are truly miserable persons who blame god (then say they don't believe in him) for their misfortunes/miserable life.

I don't prefer either or the other, I feel nothing for them because they don't exist. I don't blame god for my misfortunes or life at all, in fact I feel happier and more fulfilled knowing that I'm smart enough to know better. Aethiests live in the moment and aim to make this life a happy and fulfilling one, instead of just rolling over and taking a crappy life just because some book tells you things will be better next time around.
 

90sKids98

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 16, 2014
Messages
2,499
Reaction score
201
Cant we all agree on the fact that we're ignorant? And that both Religious people and athiests are dense?
 

I am an ALT

Member
Joined
Jun 23, 2014
Messages
44
Reaction score
3
It's not real at all. Everything humans fear in old days and they can't explain the phenomenon, they named it as God. Historical evidences were discovered revealing that the So called almighty god is none other than the God of Storm in pretty much every religion. Also the Sun was the major god only because of Ice Age that lasted for 20000 years last time. Apart from that priests stopped scientific studies of the matter because they were afraid of losing power and dominion over people.
 

riley freeman

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
4,982
Reaction score
305
We are Gods army, and like all commanders, they are responsible for their subordinates actions.

Since you're religious, please stop using your mobile, your computer, your microwave, over, car, toothbrush etc. because all of these things were created with the help of science.

Science was created for the help of humans as a species which is what God wants.
Fun fact: Charle Darwin gave his life to Chist just before he died, and he's one of the first people who didnt believe in God
 

riley freeman

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
4,982
Reaction score
305
I actually have a theory on why God created life.

Throughout the Bible, God has murdered many, many people, and all of these people either didn't follow him, or did things he found wrong. Not once did God murder someone devoted to him. There has been instances where someone who didn't follow God started following God, and THEN the Bible started portraying him in a positive light. There has also been instances where someone who followed God stopped, and the Bible then started portraying them in a negative light. From this, you can conclude that God's purpose of life is to be worshiped.

Now, God created the angels and that was his source of worship. The angels existed for a loooong, long time before God created humans. But if God had his worship from angels, why did he make humans? Well, this ties into why God would create the angel who became Satan and allow sin to exist, despite knowing that both would cause strife for mankind. In fact, I think God allowed these to exist BECAUSE he knew it would cause strife for mankind. See, God created the angels too strong. As shown with Satan, the angels could rebel and, without interference from God, they could survive forever and ever. Angels don't, per se, NEED God.

So God created humans. He made humans vastly inferior to angels, he made them weak, weak enough so that they WOULD need God. But he couldn't just make them imperfect, no, that won't be very loving. He made them perfect. But, that was no problem. God KNEW Satan would trick the first humans and render humans imperfect. This would render humans mortal, and amidst natural disasters and other nefarious humans, need protection, salvation, hope. They'd NEED God. This is why, despite displaying himself as all-loving and having humans' best interest at heart, God has allowed us to suffer under Satan, disaster, sin and death.

It's all to ensure he is worshipped.

If God killed those who didnt worship him you'll be dead by now
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top