[Discussion] is g4 needed to beat zoro?

[Venomous Cobra]

LMAO zoro is faster than light now?

 

[-Akuma-]

Now there is someone with common sense.

Luffy's personality made him almost lose to Monet.
Luffy's personality made him lose to Caesar Clown.
Luffy's personality made him get wrecked by Bellamy.
Luffy's personality made a Doflamingo clone almost kill him.

Whoever says personality doesn't have an effect on combat is ludicrous.

Hell, personality is what got Ace killed.

Whoever says Luffy won't take Zoro seriously is ludicrous.

 

[Yubel]

Whoever says Luffy won't take Zoro seriously is ludicrous.

He would but not 100% which will mess things for him.

 

[-Akuma-]

He would but not 100% which will mess things for him.

Oh really? He seemed to go at at him at 100% Whiskey Peak but that's none of my business.

 

[lelerskates]

Endurance is arguable

No it's not. End of thriller bark arc proved that. Zoro > Luffy in endurance until Luffy shows that his is better which he hasn't and most likely won't. And there is nothing you can show me to prove it.

 

[Yubel]

Oh really? He seemed to go at at him at 100% Whiskey Peak but that's none of my business.

That Luffy is not the same Luffy here, Luffy took care of fodder who came at him back then like Mr.5
Also that Luffy wasn't much stronger than Zoro if at all but this one is atleast twice as strong.

 

[Love Cook]

Oh really? He seemed to go at at him at 100% Whiskey Peak but that's none of my business.

That was a gag fight, or did nami just beat them both at 10% ?

You might as well count all the times Zoro 'fought' Sanji.

 

[-Akuma-]

No it's not. End of thriller bark arc proved that. Zoro > Luffy in endurance until Luffy shows that his is better which he hasn't and most likely won't. And there is nothing you can show me to prove it.

Two words.....Impel Down

 

[-Akuma-]

That Luffy is not the same Luffy here, Luffy took care of fodder who came at him back then like Mr.5
Also that Luffy wasn't much stronger than Zoro if at all but this one is atleast twice as strong.

Luffy has not changed in the way he handles fights at all, Luffy took out Mr. 5 right off the bat because he was already pissed from fighting Zoro. If you think Luffy without G4 is at least twice as strong as current Zoro you're delusional.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Luffy has not changed in the way he handles fights at all, Luffy took out Mr. 5 right off the bat because he was already pissed from fighting Zoro. If you think Luffy without G4 is at least twice as strong as current Zoro you're delusional.

i think he meant with gear 4th included and i agree as well.. at least until we see more from zoro (mainly asura) and before someone says well we havent seen all zoro can do that tech goes for everyone cuz as long as they r getting screen time oda can potentially make each and every char grow....

 

[-Akuma-]

i think he meant with gear 4th included and i agree as well.. at least until we see more from zoro (mainly asura) and before someone says well we havent seen all zoro can do that tech goes for everyone cuz as long as they r getting screen time oda can potentially make each and every char grow....

We've literally been talking about G4less Luffy. Saying Luffy without G4 wouldn't take Zoro out of all people seriously is a bad joke.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

We've literally been talking about G4less Luffy. Saying Luffy without G4 wouldn't take Zoro out of all people seriously is a bad joke.

i mean i believe it if zoro does not use asura ... but if he does by hype it should require gear 4th

 

[Venomous Cobra]

i mean i believe it if zoro does not use asura ... but if he does by hype it should require gear 4th

By hype? What hype? I always hear people saying ashura zoro is either stronger or equal to g4, so can I ask what hype is that?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

By hype? What hype? I always hear people saying ashura zoro is either stronger or equal to g4, so can I ask what hype is that?

Because luffy unlocked gears around time Sanji did hells memories and zoro Asura

So if luffy elevates his gears it is good chance both Sanji and zoro have achieved stronger versions of those forms as well... Even if not their bodies and strength increased dramatically over time skip so both modes should b stronger as well


Logically speaking luffy would need gear 3 to beat zoro and gear 2nd to outpace him etc .. But if zoro uses Asura he would have to use g4th or at least use gear 2 and observation to max to avoid it...


With Sanji luffy needs gear 2nd to keep up with his speed gear 3rd won't really hit Sanji (if he dodges all time) but Sanji doesn't have enough damage output in his regular form to put down luffy mind go through his haki so hells memories is needed... In order for luffy to contend with this I believe he will have to use gear 4th to out speed Sanji (in hells memories) as well as overpower him...

 

[A v i]

We've literally been talking about G4less Luffy. Saying Luffy without G4 wouldn't take Zoro out of all people seriously is a bad joke.

It's the other way around.

 

[-Akuma-]

It's the other way around.

Zoro is not taking Luffy seriously? K......

 

[AshurSeku]

Mihawk solos.

 

[A v i]

Zoro is not taking Luffy seriously? K......

With G4? Obviously. Without it? Debatable based on their current feats.

 

[ToshiZO]

With G4? Obviously. Without it? Debatable based on their current feats.

lmfaooo sig worthy.

LMAO zoro is faster than light now?

Solid spoiler in your sig guy....good job................

 

[A v i]

lmfaooo sig worthy.

You're free to believe whatever you want.