I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

[jimbobbity]

the pain and sorrow thing comes from the perspective of someone who experiences happiness, what about a person that is incapable, they don't feel happiness, ever. Why should they accept that their life will always be hell, the illusion would be better.

Edit: btw, who's that in your sig?

Wow, just wow XD

 

[Sageof7Path]

The pain and sorrow thing comes from the perspective of someone who experiences happiness, what about a person that is incapable, they don't feel happiness, ever. Why should they accept that their life will always be hell, the illusion would be better.

Edit: Btw, who's that in your sig?

Well if you feel like this situation very's from person to person then how do you think forcing everyone into a ginjutsu is a good idea?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Going through an existential crisis?

Life can be arduous. If you look at it closely, it's a perpetual cycle. All your efforts may seem fruitless in the end, because what does it amount to? Everybody's life ends the same. But at the same time, it's what you make of life that determines whether you can find purpose or happiness. The individual is the key. IT strips away the free will of the person. Wouldn't you be discontent that, yes you are living in a world that mimics your desires, but that it wasn't the product of your efforts? I mean, free will is also a questionable thing but I think most would be happier striving for their dreams than settling for an illusion. I think there's no fulfillment in a lie.

But then again, even in the real world you see people devoted to the phrase "ignorance is bliss." I don't know. I don't think you should let life wear you down. We should always endeavor to attain the real thing.

P.S. If you're suffering from depression, you should seek help. Depression is debilitating and takes a toll on your life, trust me. It's especially dangerous when it affects the male gender.

I guess, though, I see many people happy with things they didn't earn (most rich people are rich from inheritance). And, I am seeking help, but my problems are all still here.

 

[Chazzi]

You must have a sad life if you actually would want this

 

[Ansatsuken]

People don think at the speed of light.

Not the people that think at the speed of light

But the astral body that came and go, in and out from your physical body that move at the speed of light

 

[Ageha Jaeger]

What if your life has very few actual good moments in it. What if the only world you know is pain and hatred cos the people around are constantly fighting with each other and causing a strife like what is going on in Korea and India and other places like it? Do be simply only see things from our points of view and selfishly seek the reality that we crave, while others have no chance of ever getting it?

See below.

The pain and sorrow thing comes from the perspective of someone who experiences happiness, what about a person that is incapable, they don't feel happiness, ever. Why should they accept that their life will always be hell, the illusion would be better.

Edit: Btw, who's that in your sig?

Because for every bad thing you experience, there will be equally good things eventually. But this goes into reincarnation and stuff and I'm not sure if you want to hear that lol.

Melanie Iglesias. <3

 

[KilluaZoldyck]

I guess, though, I see many people happy with things they didn't earn (most rich people are rich from inheritance). And, I am seeking help, but my problems are all still here.

True, there are aspects of life that are unfair and cruel. But we shouldn't wallow in the injustices we can't control. We should put all that energy in trying to change what we can instead, so these injustices happen in less frequency.

It's good that you are. It's not something that is cured instantaneously and you will have returning episodes of it. But there are people out there who have escaped from that dark hole and found a light. So there's always hope You just need fortitude and never give up. Sounds lame but it's true.

 

[Cornballs227]

My idea is this, we shouldn't change our reality, because God made our reality for a reason. We shouldn't go and try to change it because we cannot handle it. We will all see the light in the darkest tunnel eventually in life.

 

[the last shinobi]

Infinite tsukomonomi is ending life not ending war. Is war an issue yes... But what causes war? Conflict rather it be religious economic or agricultural it's still conflict. The problem lies in doing things and taking things by force... Point of this? LET PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEYRE GOING TO DO. If America where to force democracy on other countries and they objected would there be war???? YES! That's the point. The leaders of other countries would rather have dictator ship and communism and the people of those countries protest for their freedom, then what happens? The leader of that country commands it's military to start slaughtering his own people until they submit. How would we avoid this? It's simple... Let people decide for themselves! Stop trying to take what everyone else's got and fall back. America forcing democracy on these countries will certainly cause war that's why using armed conflict to end armed conflict is so flawed. That's basically what Madara did with his plan. Not only was he trying I use war to end war but in the process he ends the cycle of life. I'm a Christian and I believe in the father son and Holy Ghost as my lord... Do I force my beliefs on everyone else regardless if I think they're wrong or right? NO. Even though because I BELIVE in Christianity I know they are wrong it will still do me or them no good to force them into being Christian because not only will it cause conflict, but if I have to force them thy never really believed in the first place! The point is you're trying to say Madaras plan is the absolute right way to go. If you feel that way you've absolutely lost touch with reality.

America has forced democracy on a great many countries and before that we had Europe force Christianity on a great many people that classified as savages because they didn't believe as they did. This looking at another human being as savage not an equal lead to slavery and all the horrible things that are still going on today. By the way people don't decide to go to war governments and kings do, people just fight and die in them. By the way some of the most horrible things done in history was done in the name of Christianity, never forget why that religion is popular not because its so loving its because for about 100 years you had people with swords show up in countries with swords tell you either cover or die....this is reality

 

[Sageof7Path]

My idea is this, we shouldn't change our reality, because God made our reality for a reason. We shouldn't go and try to change it because we cannot handle it. We will all see the light in the darkest tunnel eventually in life.

Good point but your sig is unsightly....

 

[Darth Uchiha]

My idea is this, we shouldn't change our reality, because God made our reality for a reason. We shouldn't go and try to change it because we cannot handle it. We will all see the light in the darkest tunnel eventually in life.

I don't believe in God, but I do believe this is a flawed reality and that we are a flawed species living on a dying planet.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

True, there are aspects of life that are unfair and cruel. But we shouldn't wallow in the injustices we can't control. We should put all that energy in trying to change what we can instead, so these injustices happen in less frequency.

It's good that you are. It's not something that is cured instantaneously and you will have returning episodes of it. But there are people out there who have escaped from that dark hole and found a light. So there's always hope You just need fortitude and never give up. Sounds lame but it's true.

This basically is my recurring episode.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

See below.



Because for every bad thing you experience, there will be equally good things eventually. But this goes into reincarnation and stuff and I'm not sure if you want to hear that lol.

Why suffer in this world, then, in the case of reincarnation, good only comes in death, which isn't much better than IT.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You must have a sad life if you actually would want this

Sadder than I wish it was, but, it's also because I realize, the world really is a hell, most of the people that died for noble causes in history died for nothing, not much was changed. Sure, MLK died for civil rights, but there's still racism and injustice, sure that Malala girl got shot (and thankfully survived) in the name of equality, but there's still gender inequality in the Middle East, basically, people are all the same, always the same, something like the IT in our world would be the best solution.

 

[Ageha Jaeger]

Why suffer in this world, then, in the case of reincarnation, good only comes in death, which isn't much better than IT.

I have to go bro, but look this up and read it when you have time. It might help you out. Truth Contest - The Present.

 

[MinaButt]

The Narutoverse is African third world country bad. If not worse.

-Child soldiers.

-Killing or shunning people from being different(Haku and the jins)

-Slavery is legal(Hyuuga clan)

-Bloody Mist

-Murder religions(Hidan)

-Blood thirsty clans(Kaguya clan)

-People dying from disease(Kimmario)

-Constant wars

-Giant monsters that can destroy mountains

Most people would probably go back into IT. I would.

I just realized how shitty the Naruto world is. Lmao

 

[Sageof7Path]

America has forced democracy on a great many countries and before that we had Europe force Christianity on a great many people that classified as savages because they didn't believe as they did. This looking at another human being as savage not an equal lead to slavery and all the horrible things that are still going on today. By the way people don't decide to go to war governments and kings do, people just fight and die in them. By the way some of the most horrible things done in history was done in the name of Christianity, never forget why that religion is popular not because its so loving its because for about 100 years you had people with swords show up in countries with swords tell you either cover or die....this is reality

Ok first of all I've heard about America budding into a lot of domestic issues involving larger and smaller countries but I've never heard of America attempting to force a country to become a full fledged domocracy or practice capitalism for that matter... I never said citizens initiate wars but there are a lot of people in the world who will resort to conflict when they don't accept the views and practices of others. Are royal families and politicians not people as well?

Now I don't have any recollection of Europe forcing Christianity on people. Last I remember one of the reasons the colonist sought independence from Britain is so that they could practice Christianity. However even if what you said about Europe imposing Christianity on other nations is true it just goes a long with my point. Wars are caused because of disputes. I would also like to know when a Christian has started a war?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

I just realized how shitty the Naruto world is. Lmao

Madara also showed Obito that he can have people communicate with each other in the dream world. So they can interact with their true love ones for all of eternity.

Who would choose that shithole over this?

 

[Sageof7Path]

I just realized how shitty the Naruto world is. Lmao

Woooooow. :eww:

 

[KilluaZoldyck]

Ok first of all I've hear about America budding into a lot of domestic issues involving larger and smaller countries but I've never heard of America attempting to force a country to become a full fledged domocracy or practice capitalism for that matter... I never said citizens initiate wars but there are a lot of people in the world who will resort to conflict when they don't accept the views and practices of others. Are royal families and politicians not people as well?

Now I don't have any recollection of Europe forcing Christianity on people. Last I remember one of the reasons the colonist sought independence from Britain is so that they could practice Christianity. However even if what you said about Europe imposing Christianity on other nations is true it just goes a long with my point. Wars are caused because of disputes. I would also like to know when a Christian has started a war?

The Crusades, if I'm not mistaken.