I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

[Sageof7Path]

Also, then, my point stands, if everyone has what they want there won't be disputes, which means, no war either.

No one has what they want in a false reality lol it's an illusion nothing real. It's like running in circles with you because you completely ignore the points everyone tries to make to you instead of addressing them directly.

 

[Honord Sage]

Life is what you make it,if you do not want to live in this word then dream your life away and let the rest of us live our life do not use Madara idea be an excuse to force the rest of us into a fake reality. Their can never be happiness unless one-first knows sadness,their can't be love unless you also know what hate is. Light and darkness don't mean nothing without the other.

 

[Ansatsuken]

People said anytime about misery

But they don't want it, like OP

And then start the blame that goes deeper to religion, animal, money, fate, destiny, demon ,satan, among other

But what is to blame here is human itself

Human itself make OP insecure about this world fate.

Currently there are war happening, MH17 shoot down, WTC crashed, syria, egypt conflict and many more

This are all human problem.

That mean human can't making any excuse and blame other thing when they are actually to lazy/to extreme for taking anything forward, like religious, money, oil, among other precious earth product

They tried the hardest to blame anything that not human but still related just to cover human fault and open the way to done the wrong again and again

that all the thing I able to said here

 

[Sageof7Path]

People said anytime about misery

But they don't want it, like OP

And then start the blame that goes deeper to religion, animal, money, fate, destiny, demon ,satan, among other

But what is to blame here is human itself

Human itself make OP insecure about this world fate.

Currently there are war happening, MH17 shoot down, WTC crashed, syria, egypt conflict and many more

This are all human problem.

That mean human can't making any excuse and blame other thing when they are actually to lazy/to extreme for taking anything forward, like religious, money, oil, among other precious earth product

that all the thing I able to said here

No one ever said those items you mentioned caused conflict lol... It's the unresolved DISPUTES... between PEOPLE.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Life is what you make it,if you do not want to live in this word then dream your life away and let the rest of us live our life do not use Madara idea be an excuse to force the rest of us into a fake reality. Their can never be happiness unless one-first knows sadness,their can't be love unless you also know what hate is. Light and darkness don't mean nothing without the other.

Let me quote myself.

The Narutoverse is African third world country bad. If not worse.

-Child soldiers.

-Killing or shunning people from being different(Haku and the jins)

-Slavery is legal(Hyuuga clan)

-Bloody Mist

-Murder religions(Hidan)

-Blood thirsty clans(Kaguya clan)

-People dying from disease(Kimmario)

-Constant wars

-Giant monsters that can destroy mountains

Most people would probably go back into IT. I would.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Life is what you make it,if you do not want to live in this word then dream your life away and let the rest of us live our life do not use Madara idea be an excuse to force the rest of us into a fake reality. Their can never be happiness unless one-first knows sadness,their can't be love unless you also know what hate is. Light and darkness don't mean nothing without the other.

That doesn't make sense! A baby knows both happiness and love, yet they have not lived long enough to experience anger and hatred, that directly disputes your point.

 

[cafe123]

Just because bad things exist doesn't make the world a living hell.

 

[Sageof7Path]

Let me quote myself.

But Madara had to force people into the Hutus and that only caused what??????? War.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

No one has what they want in a false reality lol it's an illusion nothing real. It's like running in circles with you because you completely ignore the points everyone tries to make to you instead of addressing them directly.

I finally realize, the only real point in the argument is that IT wouldn't be "real". Well, what is reality? How do you know the world you live in is real? All reality truly is, is what people perceive to be real, being as people in the IT perceive it to be real, that would be reality.

 

[Sageof7Path]

That doesn't make sense! A baby knows both happiness and love, yet they have not lived long enough to experience anger and hatred, that directly disputes your point.

This is really off topic and has nothing to do with this but how do you know a baby can comprehend what love is?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Just because bad things exist doesn't make the world a living hell.

Read.

The Narutoverse is African third world country bad. If not worse.

-Child soldiers.

-Killing or shunning people from being different(Haku and the jins)

-Slavery is legal(Hyuuga clan)

-Bloody Mist

-Murder religions(Hidan)

-Blood thirsty clans(Kaguya clan)

-People dying from disease(Kimmario)

-Constant wars

-Giant monsters that can destroy mountains

Most people would probably go back into IT. I would.

But Madara had to force people into the Hutus and that only caused what??????? War.

Madara would have just revived all the people that died.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Just because bad things exist doesn't make the world a living hell.

You're right, but for some people, bad things happen, and keep happening, in a never ending cycle, and that's just individual lives. Did you know, that the longest the world has ever been at peace was for 300 years, in 200,000 years of our existence, the amount of compiled time in which there wasn't any war on earth amounts to 300 years, and no, not 300 linear years, 300 compiled years. Did you know that one day in the year 2000, January 1st I believe (or December 31 1999) it was considered one of the most peaceful days in our history, why? Because there wasn't any war anywhere...for five minutes! Don't you find something wrong with that?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

This is really off topic and has nothing to do with this but how do you know a baby can comprehend what love is?

It can't, most likely, but I imagine it can feel it, for its mother, it's parents. Besides, what's so great about love anyway, in our world it only causes pain, in the IT you could be with the people you love for an eternity.

 

[Ansatsuken]

No one ever said those items you mentioned caused conflict lol... It's the unresolved DISPUTES... between PEOPLE.

I don't said those item cause a conflict, never.

I just state human itself cant let anything go even those thing not belong to them or that every people have it own choice and opinion regarding of believe

Human itself cause a conflict because to stubborn, greedy, dumb, extreme or to sum it up anything is bad of a moral to human that cause every conflict

not those reanimate objects/things/religious

 

[cafe123]

You're right, but for some people, bad things happen, and keep happening, in a never ending cycle, and that's just individual lives. Did you know, that the longest the world has ever been at peace was for 300 years, in 200,000 years of our existence, the amount of compiled time in which there wasn't any war on earth amounts to 300 years, and no, not 300 linear years, 300 compiled years. Did you know that one day in the year 2000, January 1st I believe (or December 31 1999) it was considered one of the most peaceful days in our history, why? Because there wasn't any war anywhere...for five minutes! Don't you find something wrong with that?

Sure and it sucks but putting everyone in a dream ain't the solution.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Sure and it sucks but putting everyone in a dream ain't the solution.

Then what would be the solution, since "free will" is oh so important?

 

[Sageof7Path]

I finally realize, the only real point in the argument is that IT wouldn't be "real". Well, what is reality? How do you know the world you live in is real? All reality truly is, is what people perceive to be real, being as people in the IT perceive it to be real, that would be reality.

To perceive something means to become aware it doesn't mean to be fooled into thinking something that isn't true is. If some one is dreaming they're not aware of anything that is actually going on so the only way you can perceive your dream is to wake up from that dream and realize that it was just that, a dream. So know it's not real at all. But you do realize thy what you just said is that the only way for it to be real is if people perceive it so they would have to agree with going into the jutsu which still wouldn't ale it real....

As you continue to ignore there are a ton of problems with madaras plan. First off he basically caused pain suffering and war to end the cycle of life. Not only is it not real but not everyone agreed with it. Of course people will object because they have been living their REAL lives all this time and they're not going to be placed under a false reality.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

To perceive something means to become aware it doesn't mean to be fooled into thinking something that isn't true is. If some one is dreaming they're not aware of anything that is actually going on so the only way you can perceive your dream is to wake up from that dream and realize that it was just that, a dream. So know it's not real at all. But you do realize thy what you just said is that the only way for it to be real is if people perceive it so they would have to agree with going into the jutsu which still wouldn't ale it real....

As you continue to ignore there are a ton of problems with madaras plan. First off he basically caused pain suffering and war to end the cycle of life. Not only is it not real but not everyone agreed with it. Of course people will object because they have been living their REAL lives all this time and they're not going to be placed under a false reality.

Know what, who even cares if it's real? What difference does that make? Besides which, the plan was to revive everyone that died anyway, and besides, not everyone would hate the plan, you have people like me that would desire it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

To perceive something means to become aware it doesn't mean to be fooled into thinking something that isn't true is. If some one is dreaming they're not aware of anything that is actually going on so the only way you can perceive your dream is to wake up from that dream and realize that it was just that, a dream. So know it's not real at all. But you do realize thy what you just said is that the only way for it to be real is if people perceive it so they would have to agree with going into the jutsu which still wouldn't ale it real....

As you continue to ignore there are a ton of problems with madaras plan. First off he basically caused pain suffering and war to end the cycle of life. Not only is it not real but not everyone agreed with it. Of course people will object because they have been living their REAL lives all this time and they're not going to be placed under a false reality.

It actually very hard to convince him

But let just tried anything we can

 

[cafe123]

Than what would be the solution, since "free will" is oh so important?

I don't know how world peace can be achieved but this wouldn't be the right solution, it's morally unacceptable.