I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan, do you?

  • Yes, there's no point in sticking in a cruel reality anyway

    Votes: 53 40.5%
  • No, reality is worth experiencing despite its hardships

    Votes: 78 59.5%

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AGoodBoy

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Same, I agreed with IT.
It made more sense than naruto's "hurr durr, I'll create peace. I don't know how, I don't know when, but I'll do it just because I say so. Now drop all your ideals and come follow me for absolutely no good reason given by me, just like everyone else who's following me for no good reason. I won't let you down bro, it's my ninja way, it gone happen just because."
 

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You seem very disillusioned...

Let me ask you this: if you were given the choice to live out the remainder of your life in such an illusion (with your real body being left permanently comatose), would you do it?
 

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Same, I agreed with IT.
It made more sense than naruto's "hurr durr, I'll create peace. I don't know how, I don't know when, but I'll do it just because I say so. Now drop all your ideals and come follow me for absolutely no good reason given by me, just like everyone else who's following me for no good reason. I won't let you down bro, it's my ninja way, it gone happen just because."
don't know why but i agree
if ur views r same as naruto's he will wank u and if not o he will bash u
 

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Same, I agreed with IT.
It made more sense than naruto's "hurr durr, I'll create peace. I don't know how, I don't know when, but I'll do it just because I say so. Now drop all your ideals and come follow me for absolutely no good reason given by me, just like everyone else who's following me for no good reason. I won't let you down bro, it's my ninja way, it gone happen just because."

Exactly, how will Naruto's way even work? What, he's gonna mind control the world using TNJ and end all war?
 
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One thing to make note of is the nature of IT. It draws upon whoever's caught in it's subconscious desires, even if they are selfish. So, what's reflected in IT may not necessarily be what the victim's ideal world would be if they were to consciously imagine their dream world.

Also, like brought up, there's the whole dreams turning into nightmares idea. See: Sakura in Road to Ninja and how that turned out.
 

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Narutoverse has kids getting trained to be killers and they get killed in battle. This is the world you guys are supporting?
 

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You seem very disillusioned...

Let me ask you this: if you were given the choice to live out the remainder of your life in such an illusion (with your real body being left permanently comatose), would you do it?

Honestly? Yes, I would, there's not much in the world for me, rather, there's nothing in the world for me, in fact, Obito is my favorite character because I sympathize with him the most. I'd rather be forced to be happy than be miserable all the time.
 

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I dunno, but everyone seemed extremely happy being in it. Minus the whole WZ thing.

You keep ignoring the main point... It's not their choice. It's an illusion there is nothing real about a forced allusion. You still refuse to acknowledge where the plan went wrong the reason everyone suffered in Naruto is because Madara tried to change the world by force. A better phrase than change the world would be stop the world from moving because that's all he did. He basically created a shit ton of pain and suffering to end the cycle of life. That's all IT is.
 

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You seem very disillusioned...

Let me ask you this: if you were given the choice to live out the remainder of your life in such an illusion (with your real body being left permanently comatose), would you do it?

Who are you to interfere with everyone's happiness Naruto?!
 

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You keep ignoring the main point... It's not their choice. It's an illusion there is nothing real about a forced allusion. You still refuse to acknowledge where the plan went wrong the reason everyone suffered in Naruto is because Madara tried to change the world by force. A better phrase than change the world would be stop the world from moving because that's all he did. He basically created a shit ton of pain and suffering to end the cycle of life. That's all IT is.

Who are you to interfere with everyone's happiness Naruto?!
 

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Who are you to interfere with everyone's happiness Naruto?!

When did I do that? I just asked a question.

Honestly? Yes, I would, there's not much in the world for me, rather, there's nothing in the world for me, in fact, Obito is my favorite character because I sympathize with him the most. I'd rather be forced to be happy than be miserable all the time.

Yeah I highly recommend that you watch NGE. Once you overcome depression, you realize how much of a waste of time it was to sit around feeling sorry for yourself.
 

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People seem to be forgetting all of those who live in poverty, have illnesses and nobody to care for them. Sure we may not wanna live in a fake reality cos we have comfortable lives that we love, but what about them?
 
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You keep ignoring the main point... It's not their choice. It's an illusion there is nothing real about a forced allusion. You still refuse to acknowledge where the plan went wrong the reason everyone suffered in Naruto is because Madara tried to change the world by force. A better phrase than change the world would be stop the world from moving because that's all he did. He basically created a shit ton of pain and suffering to end the cycle of life. That's all IT is.

But, the fact that everyone was happier in the dream, getting to be with the people they loved whether or not they were still alive, would say that the IT was right, and that, like I said, people just didn't know what's best for them. Not to mention, far more people died from the wars of the Narutoverse than they did from Madara or Obito's plans, not to mention they revived everyone they killed anyway.
 

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You keep ignoring the main point... It's not their choice. It's an illusion there is nothing real about a forced allusion. You still refuse to acknowledge where the plan went wrong the reason everyone suffered in Naruto is because Madara tried to change the world by force. A better phrase than change the world would be stop the world from moving because that's all he did. He basically created a shit ton of pain and suffering to end the cycle of life. That's all IT is.
What about world wars? We start a war to end a war. Thats all IT is?
 

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“Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.” ― Søren Kierkegaard. In all honesty, I'd rather have my real friends than no friends at all and live in some fake world. Imagine how mad you would be if they got to the end of Naruto and you found out that everything that happened was just a dream. Kakashi said that he doesn't want to live in a world with all the fakes and replicas. He wants to live in a world with the real Obito. That's how I feel. A life that is a lie and you don't have free will is no life at all.
 
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