I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

[Darth Uchiha]

But who are two people to decide what's best for everyone when everyone lives different lives and has different circumstances? And still I think you're missing the point there's something called free will and allowing people to decide for themselves. If you pay attention to the world around you dictator ship has caused nothing but turmoil while the most prosperous nations practice democracy.

But dictatorships and awful things can't be stopped, and often times, when people have the freedom of choice they choose wrong.

 

[Torche]

the reality will consist of white zetsus :snick:
OT:except WZ thing everyone seems to be enjoying IT

Yeah, WZ's aren't apart of this though, so if that wouldn't happen.

No it would still be a dream same as you going to sleep at night only difference you're a prisoner in your own mind.

When you are in a dream, do you know that it's a dream before you wake up? No.

 

[SasukeSacrifice]

At least, before that stupid Kaguya hijacked it for herself, I am in full agreement with Infinite Tsukiyomi. I mean, think about it, even in our world, reality is a cruel, pointless hell, people are awful, wars happen, depression exists, and there is nothing but never ending misery, so, what's the point? Everybody acts as if Madara's plan is evil, but how so, what's so great about their world (or ours, for that matter) that would make the plan evil? What's so great about reality? Why not just live in paradise for an eternity, if possible, what sort of maniac would turn that down? Besides, whose to say what is reality anyway, reality is merely whatever you believe is real, no? So, I fully agree with Obito and Madara's plan, in fact, I wish it was possible to do the same in our world. What do you think?

I agree with you in some points, the world is cruel
And near all human are full of hatred and selfish reasons of living.
But we have the free choise to do something about it.
Yeah you can gain power and make you the king of a dreamworld, but in rhe end youre selfish.
First we must accept this world, not like obito.
He thrown all away because he cant stand this reality.
People die, suffer and feel the pain of lost but we should not giving up reality.
We grow from our pain and all the fails we make.

I disagree with the IT, its the same when i choose psychodelic drugs and feel happy all the time

But your choise, i understand your decision
Peace and sry for the bad grammar : )

 

[Solog0d]

Yeah, WZ's aren't apart of this though, so if that wouldn't happen.



When you are in a dream, do you know that it's a dream before you wake up? No.

actually you do.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

But you wouldn't know that it was a dream. You would think that it was reality. That dream world become's your reality. There is no Zetsu transformation in this too, that was part of the OP.



Tell me; when you have a dream, when you are "in" a dream, before you wake up, do you know that it's a dream? No, that dream "is reality" before you wake up.

False. Explain lucid dreamers.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I dunno about you but I'd rather die knowing that I accomplished things by the work of my own hands, rather than dreamt it and in the end realized it was all a lie. Besides, who would want to be turned into a white zetsu?

If you die thinking it was real, then it wouldn't have been a lie, it'd be your truth.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

False. Explain lucid dreamers.

IT doesn't work like a lucid dream anyway, besides, in the scenes where everyone was dreaming, they were clearly happy.

 

[Torche]

False. Explain lucid dreamers.

I don't know what that is...

actually you do.

You do..?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You have a lot of slits on your wrists don't you lol.

None deep enough, lol.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Tell me; when you have a dream, when you are "in" a dream, before you wake up, do you know that it's a dream? No, that dream "is reality" before you wake up.

What? there's lots of people that know when they're dreaming :| it happen to me alot its called Lucid dreams.

 

[~MC117~]

If reality is too harsh for you, but I don't see the point of living in a dream, and by the way eventually people will turn into zetsus.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Guys think about surrogate movie is enough

They situation is same that is living in illusion

But one use artificial being and one is total illusion

The consequence to your body will very sever and bad

In the end you'll will die of malnutrition

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I don't know what that is...

Lucid dreaming is when a person is aware that they're dreaming, lucid dreamers can force themselves awake or directly control their dreams.

 

[Torche]

What? there's lots of people that know when they're dreaming :| it happen to me alot its called Lucid dreams.

I wouldn't know, I haven't had a dream in years.. Lol

 

[MAN OF SIN]

It is very convenient that IT turns people to zetsus which means they are the same as dead to show that Madara was wrong.

It is like if after the ninjas get out of IT they ALL voted to go back in IT just to show that madara's plan worked and is the right way to do things and indeed, that is what happens in the end.

It depends what you value more, peace or free will.

If there's no free will, there's no point in us even existing.

They can do what they want in those dreams.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

OP- you seem butt hurt by life... =/

In a way, life sucks for me and everyone else, the world is awful, and there's nothing anyone could do about it.

 

[Torche]

Lucid dreaming is when a person is aware that they're dreaming, lucid dreamers can force themselves awake or directly control their dreams.

Ah, sounds like MT Lol. Controlling their dreams.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

It's just cowardly. You would be a living puppet living in an imaginary world in which maybe there wouldn't be wars but still that's not life. There is no an absolute good.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

It is very convenient that IT turns people to zetsus which means they are the same as dead to show that Madara was wrong.

It is like if after the ninjas get out of IT they ALL voted to go back in IT just to show that madara's plan worked and is the right way to do things and indeed, that is what happens in the end.

EXACTLY! Of course, it's so convenient that IT turns people into White Zetsus, to show that, despite everyone was happy in their dreams, he was still "wrong".

 

[-Spoiler-]

I wouldn't know, I haven't had a dream in years.. Lol

Actually you probably do dream you just can't remember anything about it, so it feels like as soon as you fall asleep its morning.