I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan, do you?

  • Yes, there's no point in sticking in a cruel reality anyway

    Votes: 53 40.5%
  • No, reality is worth experiencing despite its hardships

    Votes: 78 59.5%

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hokagenaruto1

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Well, it's free will in the sense that you could do what you want in the dream.
Well Naruto states that type of free will and peace is a lie. In the end, nothing is really solved. Would you rather dream that you had a million dollars or actually have a million dollars?
 

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Only a fool would live His life away in a dream, all dreams can be turn to nightmares and Obito and Madara were fool by Kaguya in the end all the dreamers will be turn to white Zetsu and the dream stops and you are nothing but a slave to be used.

Okay, for the sake of philosophical argument, let's say that people dot turn into Zetsus and things go along according to Madara or even Obito's (I think he's less likely to misuse it) original plan, then what?
 

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Free will? In a world where dictatorship and the government control what we do, how we do it and when to do it? If we had a world of free will there would be murderers everywhere and thiefs. Freedom is nothing but a lie.

Exactly, free will is an illusion anyway.
 

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Well Naruto states that type of free will and peace is a lie. In the end, nothing is really solved. Would you rather dream that you had a million dollars or actually have a million dollars?

Who cares if it's a lie? If it seems real enough you wouldn't even know it's a lie anyway, and you could still get what you want.
 

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Well Naruto states that type of free will and peace is a lie. In the end, nothing is really solved. Would you rather dream that you had a million dollars or actually have a million dollars?

In this sense it wouldn't matter; the dream world would become reality.
 

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Because people usually don't know what's best for them.

But who are two people to decide what's best for everyone when everyone lives different lives and has different circumstances? And still I think you're missing the point there's something called free will and allowing people to decide for themselves. If you pay attention to the world around you dictator ship has caused nothing but turmoil while the most prosperous nations practice democracy.
 

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But who are two people to decide what's best for everyone when everyone lives different lives and has different circumstances? And still I think you're missing the point there's something called free will and allowing people to decide for themselves. If you pay attention to the world around you dictator ship has caused nothing but turmoil while the most prosperous nations practice democracy.

But the MT is tailored for everyone. In that world you would have your free will, you could go do things of your own free will.
 

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In this sense it wouldn't matter; the dream world would become reality.
I dunno about you but I'd rather die knowing that I accomplished things by the work of my own hands, rather than dreamt it and in the end realized it was all a lie. Besides, who would want to be turned into a white zetsu?
 

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I'll rather never be a billionaire than have a dream about being a billionaire and finding out that it was just a dream and a lie
 

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But the MT is tailored for everyone. In that world you would have your free will, you could go do things of your own free will.

No you couldn't because you are asleep trapped in an illusion. No one wants to dream forever people actually want to live.
 

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In this sense it wouldn't matter; the dream world would become reality.

the reality will consist of white zetsus :snick:
OT:except WZ thing everyone seems to be enjoying IT
 

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"how about instead of whining about how messed up reality is, we actually do something about it!" said no one ever
 

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In this sense it wouldn't matter; the dream world would become reality.
No it would still be a dream same as you going to sleep at night only difference you're a prisoner in your own mind.
 

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No you couldn't because you are asleep living in an illusion. No one wants to dream forever people actually want to live.
you also turn into a whiteZetsu so your Dream stops anyways.
 

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Fck their plan, I honestly couldnt care less about the state of the world and my lifes just fine.
 

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I dunno about you but I'd rather die knowing that I accomplished things by the work of my own hands, rather than dreamt it and in the end realized it was all a lie. Besides, who would want to be turned into a white zetsu?

But you wouldn't know that it was a dream. You would think that it was reality. That dream world become's your reality. There is no Zetsu transformation in this too, that was part of the OP.

No you couldn't because you are asleep living in an illusion. No one wants to dream forever people actually want to live.

Tell me; when you have a dream, when you are "in" a dream, before you wake up, do you know that it's a dream? No, that dream "is reality" before you wake up.
 
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