I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

[Darth Uchiha]

People commit suicide because. They gave up and things became too tough for them to handle or religious occult. The people that off themselves usually do it simply put... easy way out. But thing is. In life... it's easy to take the easy way out

If you have to be in an extreme amount of mental or emotional pain to even consider that, is it really an "easy way out"?

 

[lanakui8]

People are not naturally compassionate, I know firsthand, they need to experience hardships to build compassion for other people, and, most extremely depressed people don't lash out, they just die.

That's interesting because what i've experienced firsthand is that while there are people who do have to experience hardships firsthand in order to build compassion for other people, there are also people don't have to experience hardships to build compassion for others.

Making cement statements like the bolded is an extremely unwise decision as there are all kinds of people in this world and universally conceptualizing EVERYONE based off your extremely limited experience of reality can lead you to making limiting, biased and prejudice judgements about others.

extremely depressed people don't 'just die' they can be extremely prone to lashing out at people in all kinds of ways. Some can range from attacking and trying to pull down others who don't have such a depressing and pessimistic outlook on reality as they do due to jealousy of others or the desire for companionship in their suffering, and I'm talking from experience. Some bottle it up and stay silent like you say and die and some end up going to public areas and committing mass murders before committing suicide themselves.

Bottom line is people deal with stuff in so many different ways that you can't judge how much they are suffering based on that, just give them the benefit of the doubt.

If you have to be in an extreme amount of mental or emotional pain to even consider that, is it really an "easy way out"?

it is the easy way out since had you not committed suicide and lived life until you died from natural causes, you'd have lived and therefore suffered a lot more, no? 'easy' is just a relative term, so relative to the 'other way out' suicide would be the 'easy' way out.

It's not saying that committing suicide means that you had it easier than someone who didn't.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

That's interesting because what i've experienced firsthand is that while there are people who do have to experience hardships firsthand in order to build compassion for other people, there are also people don't have to experience hardships to build compassion for others.

Making cement statements like the bolded is an extremely unwise decision as there are all kinds of people in this world and universally conceptualizing EVERYONE based off your extremely limited experience of reality can lead you to making limiting, biased and prejudice judgements about others.

extremely depressed people don't 'just die' they can be extremely prone to lashing out at people in all kinds of ways. Some can range from attacking and trying to pull down others who don't have such a depressing and pessimistic outlook on reality as they do due to jealousy of others or the desire for companionship in their suffering, and I'm talking from experience. Some bottle it up and stay silent like you say and die and some end up going to public areas and committing mass murders before committing suicide themselves.

Bottom line is people deal with stuff in so many different ways that you can't judge how much they are suffering based on that, just give them the benefit of the doubt.

Well, why not make everyone happy? Why not free those people from their suffering, why do they deserve to suffer?

 

[JCW]

Yes it's an easy way out. The hard and more positive way to overcome that issue is to seek help to better yourself. Like What everyone tells naruto... u r never alone

 

[MAN OF SIN]

People commit suicide because. They gave up and things became too tough for them to handle or religious occult. The people that off themselves usually do it simply put... easy way out. But thing is. In life... it's easy to take the easy way out

So wouldn't IT stop people from killing themselves and give them what they want? Wouldn't though kind of people support it?

 

[JCW]

Well of course they will IT is mental..reality suicide.

 

[lanakui8]

Well, why not make everyone happy? Why not free those people from their suffering, why do they deserve to suffer?

IKR, why not make everyone happy? Why not free those people from their suffering? Why don't we both try and give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and don't concretely conceptualize and set limits on people or ourselves based on our own limited experience of reality and try to help and love on other people regardless if we believe they are suffering or not?

@ the bolded. Why do they deserve to NOT suffer? Why do people deserve happiness?

If you're talking about MT making everyone happy, then you really haven't thought things through. Though maybe that's not your fault since your life might be so strenuous that you can only see things right in front of you rather than what's behind them.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

IKR, why not make everyone happy? Why not free those people from their suffering? Why don't we both try and give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and don't concretely conceptualize and set limits on people or ourselves based on our own limited experience of reality and try to help and love on other people regardless if we believe they are suffering or not?

@ the bolded. Why do they deserve to NOT suffer? Why do people deserve happiness?

If you're talking about MT making everyone happy, then you really haven't thought things through. Though maybe that's not your fault since your life might be so strenuous that you can only see things right in front of you rather than what's behind them.

If you deserve happiness so should they, what have they done to deserve their suffering? Some people are completely innocent, and only suffer because reality is cruel, why do they deserve to suffer?

 

[SasukeSaviourofUchiha]

You are late my friend. Been thinking about this since day 1....

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You are late my friend. Been thinking about this since day 1....

Same, tbh.

 

[lanakui8]

If you deserve happiness so should they, what have they done to deserve their suffering? Some people are completely innocent, and only suffer because reality is cruel, why do they deserve to suffer?

Since when did I state that I deserve happiness? Based on what are some people literally completely innocent? What does it even mean to be 'completely innocent'? Why do these people NOT deserve to suffer? Why do these people deserve to be happy?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Since when did I state that I deserve happiness? Based on what are some people literally completely innocent? What does it even mean to be 'completely innocent'? Why do these people NOT deserve to suffer? Why do these people deserve to be happy?

Why do they deserve to suffer?

 

[lanakui8]

Why do they deserve to suffer?

answer my question first, why do they deserve happiness or not to suffer?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

answer my question first, why do they deserve happiness or not to suffer?

Because, I don't know, they haven't done anything to make them deserving of suffering. I don't know what makes a person deserving of suffering.

 

[Zolo]

There are no wars in our world. It's all a game from politicians.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

There are no wars in our world. It's all a game from politicians.

Yes...a game in which real people die.

 

[lanakui8]

Because, I don't know, they haven't done anything to make them deserving of suffering. I don't know what makes a person deserving of suffering.

But who are you to say that someone is deserving of suffering or not? You don't even know what a person is truly thinking, what they've done behind closed doors or in the past, or even done by accident. So I don't think anyone can claim another is really innocent and therefore not deserving of suffering.

Plus, I agree this world is not 'fair' in that everyone starts out on the same foot with the same opportunities, and gets the same results for their effort, or receives the same amount of suffering for their actions, but I don't see how that means that any person deserves to not suffer or deserves happiness.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Well of course they will IT is mental..reality suicide.

So you're it's right let people kill themselves?

 

[Jimihendrix]

Some day the sun will engulf the solar system. What was and what will be is meaningless. Meanwhile you should wonder, are you just a two headed pile of meat on a crash coarse with the cosmic dump, or do you contain the sole memory of a million dead stars? How do you light a candle without a match?

 

[Jimihendrix]

So you're it's right let people kill themselves?

what's wrong with letting people kill themselves?