I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan, do you?

  • Yes, there's no point in sticking in a cruel reality anyway

    Votes: 53 40.5%
  • No, reality is worth experiencing despite its hardships

    Votes: 78 59.5%

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Uchihajin Sasuke

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I like Madara's plan, just take a look at the real world and see how horrible it is, with the divide between the rich and poor.
 

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Why are you able to even perceive something as horrible?
 

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Because life screwed a lot of us over, and we're sick of it.

Perhaps it is because you feel entitled to something other than what you have received. Remember, it is your choice to interpret things as positive or negative.
 

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Perhaps it is because you feel entitled to something other than what you have received. Remember, it is your choice to interpret things as positive or negative.

The most I feel entitled to is some happiness and fortune occasionally, rather than constant misery.
 

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The most I feel entitled to is some happiness and fortune occasionally, rather than constant misery.

Again, it is your choice to live in misery. You make the decision to believe that the world is against you. Do you expect to become happy by constantly feeling sorry for yourself?
 

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Again, it is your choice to live in misery. You make the decision to believe that the world is against you. Do you expect to become happy by constantly feeling sorry for yourself?

I don't feel sorry for myself, I feel sorry for everyone else. I already know I was meant to suffer, so there's no point in trying to fight that, but I also know everyone else has to suffer room and I can't even help them, half my life has been about helping people, and no matter what I do, it doesn't make a real difference.
 

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I don't feel sorry for myself, I feel sorry for everyone else. I already know I was meant to suffer, so there's no point in trying to fight that, but I also know everyone else has to suffer room and I can't even help them, half my life has been about helping people, and no matter what I do, it doesn't make a real difference.

You contradicted yourself in this post. However, as I said earlier, it doesn't matter what I say to you about anything, because you don't want to believe that anyone else could understand or empathize. Which is why all I can do is reassert my initial recommendation.
 

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You contradicted yourself in this post. However, as I said earlier, it doesn't matter what I say to you about anything, because you don't want to believe that anyone else could understand or empathize. Which is why all I can do is reassert my initial recommendation.

I know people can empathize and understand, it's just that, I still feel awful anyway.
 

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I know people can empathize and understand, it's just that, I still feel awful anyway.

Yes. You hate yourself, you believe that you are a victim of the world's cruelty. You want to help others as a way to validate your existence, to make yourself feel needed. Because you have no purpose otherwise, since you believe that your life is worthless. If you are unable to live with yourself, how do you expect others to be able to? It's a difficult mentality to escape from.
 

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Yes. You hate yourself, you believe that you are a victim of the world's cruelty. You want to help others as a way to validate your existence, to make yourself feel needed. Because you have no purpose otherwise, since you believe that your life is worthless. If you are unable to live with yourself, how do you expect others to be able to? It's a difficult mentality to escape from.

Well, yes, but, if I don't contribute to the world, why do I deserve to exist? If I don't help people, what is my worth? Nothing, I'd just be a waste, I need to help people.
 

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Well, yes, but, if I don't contribute to the world, why do I deserve to exist? If I don't help people, what is my worth? Nothing, I'd just be a waste, I need to help people .

This is the most important part! - Find ways to help people without the expectation of anything in return - when you are able to do this, you will see the reaction and appreciation of the person you helped - and the feeling of genuin appreciation for your helping hand is beautiful feeling like no other.
 

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In the confines of our world, I disagree reality is worthless.In the terms of the ninja world... Yeah, basically ninja live for their villages and are little more than tools of the village and war. They have no free will really, it's like a third world dictatorship.
 

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That's what drugs are for.


Each time is like a mini IT.
 

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You want some kind of fairy tale utopia, but life doesn't work like that. It's called manning the hell up and accepting it, not living in some illusion where you can have everything your way.

Better idea: Woman the hell down, and have everything perfect.
 

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Those who have not suffered cannot understand the concept of IT if you were put in let's say Africa and suffered like see your mom shot get your breast cut off raped become a child soldier watch as tons of people are massacred etc. you would want the it but like

Nagato said about pain
 

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Those who have not suffered cannot understand the concept of IT if you were put in let's say Africa and suffered like see your mom shot get your breast cut off raped become a child soldier watch as tons of people are massacred etc. you would want the it but like

Nagato said about pain

Pretty much this. For some people (me included) that are hardships there are gonna stay with them for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do that would make their lives a living hell whever they go. It affects some people more drastically than others cos we're all different and our events are different.

People talk about how selfish it would be for those who dont want IT when in reality it probably wouldnt make that much of a difference in their lives for the worse, all the same making those who are suffering have to endure. There is no right or wrong answer, its just personal opinion.
 

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as madara said, peace is merely a quiet form of conflict.
 
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