I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan

I fully agree with Obito and Madara's Plan, do you?

  • Yes, there's no point in sticking in a cruel reality anyway

    Votes: 53 40.5%
  • No, reality is worth experiencing despite its hardships

    Votes: 78 59.5%

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Darth Uchiha

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OK that one of my point

But I'dont know it true or not what you saying because it can be misinterpret by you about keeping alive.

Maybe keeping alive but your brain is no longer dreaming.

If just an assumption, how in one pint you will feel worst pain in your body when turning into zetsu

But put that aside

What about my second point

Assuming the Zetsu thing doesn't happen, it's not that bad, even if you die eventually, it's not bad, you won't care because you'll just cease to exist, you won't feel or experience anything anymore.
 

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Assuming the Zetsu thing doesn't happen, it's not that bad, even if you die eventually, it's not bad, you won't care because you'll just cease to exist, you won't feel or experience anything anymore.

But if I'm got bad dream for forever instead of good

What I'm gonna do?
 

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What Obito wanted to do was escape reality because he was unable to let go of the past and accept the reality he lived in. It's akin to people who turn to drugs/alcohol to numb the pain in their lives. Or even TV/internet to some extent. On here we all have anonymity, so we feel like we are able to craft our realities the way we want them to be. I'm scared to type too much because my laptop cuts me off and restarts randomly, but I'll elaborate if there is any demand.

I think it is a great way to gain peace. No more genocide and crap like that.
 

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I think it is a great way to gain peace. No more genocide and crap like that.

It would also lead to the end of humanity. It is an escape from pain, a way of hiding from an undesirable reality. However, pain is part of being human. Without pain, we wouldn't be able to create our dreams or form our desires. We can't know what makes us happy until we have experienced it. The strongest quality of humans is our ability to adapt, to learn how to make do with what we have, and to keep striving toward achieving our goals. Infinite Tsukuyomi is an abandonment of humanity. It is just people giving up on the hope that they will one day be able to understand one another, giving in to their fears. I'm too inarticulate. I'll try to explain it better in a separate post if I ever figure it out. Just watch Neon Genesis Evangelion lol.
 

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It would also lead to the end of humanity. It is an escape from pain, a way of hiding from an undesirable reality. However, pain is part of being human. Without pain, we wouldn't be able to create our dreams or form our desires. We can't know what makes us happy until we have experienced it. The strongest quality of humans is our ability to adapt, to learn how to make do with what we have, and to keep striving toward achieving our goals. Infinite Tsukuyomi is an abandonment of humanity. It is just people giving up on the hope that they will one day be able to understand one another, giving in to their fears. I'm too inarticulate. I'll try to explain it better in a separate post if I ever figure it out. Just watch Neon Genesis Evangelion lol.

Your are explaining something

Or you make a promotion here?:what:
 

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Your are explaining something

Or you make a promotion here?:what:

lol I know it looks bad. But honestly I can't really explain it better. And oftentimes people won't listen to other people's thoughts, but seeing things that relate to what they are dealing with makes them reflect more and think from different perspectives. It's hard for another person to change your mind, but it isn't hard for a separate medium to stimulate it. If that makes sense. It probably doesn't (too inarticulate), but it is absolutely true (at least in my experience).
 

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lol I know it looks bad. But honestly I can't really explain it better. And oftentimes people won't listen to other people's thoughts, but seeing things that relate to what they are dealing with makes them reflect more and think from different perspectives. It's hard for another person to change your mind, but it isn't hard for a separate medium to stimulate it. If that makes sense. It probably doesn't (too inarticulate), but it is absolutely true (at least in my experience).

Giving this kind of hard hearted person something that can open their eye/mind or a clue about what actually happen in reality,

How to change their perception regarding the truth of reality

Using any medium of work like story, documentary, anime/manga, motivational speech etc

That actually have a percentage of possibilities that people able to think and change their mind about reality matter

But they also need support from right people to guide them for accepting what is reality, there is not just gloom and dumb

there also light and happiness unless they are from somalia exp.

that is some
 

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Giving this kind of hard hearted person something that can open their eye/mind or a clue about what actually happen in reality,

How to change their perception regarding the truth of reality

Using any medium of work like story, documentary, anime/manga, motivational speech etc

That actually have a percentage of possibilities that people able to think and change their mind about reality matter

But they also need support from right people to guide them for accepting what is reality, there is not just gloom and dumb

there also light and happiness unless they are from somalia exp.

that is some

I think that people just tend to believe that their plight is unique, and that no one else could possibly understand them. Seeing it recreated in a fictional environment is more likely to make them contemplate than being patronized by someone who has supposedly been through the same struggles.

And Neon Genesis Evangelion is a great anime. lol. The best, even.
 

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It's mostly a matter of perspective, there's really no "right" or "wrong" here. In IT, all problems, whether personal or worldwide, are not present. It's enough for some that it's real enough for them, while others don't see it that way. Personally i wouldn't want to live in an artificial world, if i knew it wasn't real. In my case, ignorance is bliss. If it was somehow offered to us though, can anyone really say they'd deny a real perfect world, just so they can have their "hardships", "pain" and all that makes us stronger? That's just meaningless masochism, imo, since it's precisely for the purpose of making our lives as close to perfect as possible that we endure it all.

In Narutoverse's case, i agree with Madara's plan. It has been shown time and time again that peace is impossible in a world with Shinobi and Chakra - a killer and its tool. Madara has realized this, and to an extent, Obito has too. There will always be suffering and wars, Infinite Tsukuyomi really is the only way to create peace in a world where most people are trained to kill.
 

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In a dream it's all about me
in a place where i have everything that i need
But what's the point in falling a sleep
When in reality there are pepole who needs me,
In good or bad, but it's my choice, if i want to
be glad or sad.
 

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It would also lead to the end of humanity. It is an escape from pain, a way of hiding from an undesirable reality. However, pain is part of being human. Without pain, we wouldn't be able to create our dreams or form our desires. We can't know what makes us happy until we have experienced it. The strongest quality of humans is our ability to adapt, to learn how to make do with what we have, and to keep striving toward achieving our goals. Infinite Tsukuyomi is an abandonment of humanity. It is just people giving up on the hope that they will one day be able to understand one another, giving in to their fears. I'm too inarticulate. I'll try to explain it better in a separate post if I ever figure it out. Just watch Neon Genesis Evangelion lol.

Humanity would still be alive. You know people in the Narutoverse have the power to wipe it out and IT can prevent that from happening, right?
 
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So many replies...you should be proud of yourself.
 

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Humanity would still be alive. You know people in the Narutoverse have the power to wipe IT out and it can prevent that from happening, right?

I don't see how IT is bad consider that it provides this.
 

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Maybe suicide is better if you believe that
 
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