Hiruzen led Konoha the Best

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I agree that the reign of the Third was best in Konoha's History. THat being said, I cant give all that credit to Hiruzen. Danzou also played a big part for that era. I believe it was the combination of Danzou and HIruzen that was the key to sucess. Hiruzen was the likeable figure head and deplomatic qhile Danzou was the cold, what-needs-to-be done sort of guy. They both in a way ran the village together better than any one Hokage has.

Although Hiruzen Sarutobi did afford the leaf to have the title of the strongest Kage of that generation.
 

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Pretty sure he was the worst Hokage, remind me again under which adminstration the Uchiha's were massacred? Remind me again who was too much of a weakling to stop Danzo from doing anything he wanted?
Hiruzen was a failure and always will be.
 

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Hiruzen was the wisest of all the Hokage. Danzo was Hiruzens best friend so he didn't want to kill him plus he knew Danzo intnetions were in the villages best interest. Danzo has already admitted inferiorty to Hiruzen, he said his whole life he could never catch up to him. Its a Goku and Vegeta situation actually.

Hiruzen at age 70 was strongest Kage in the world, noted by Kabuto who has spent his whole life in all 5 great ninja countries. That means he was still stronger than Ay, Mei, Onoki, and Gaara daddy.

He knew about the Akatsuki even before Itachi did.

He was hokager for ever 50 years.
Uh Hiruzen was 68 when he died. I guess he was Hokage at 18
 

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Meh, no. I'm not denying that fact at all. I was just telling that Itachi was not a traitor.

A guy who sides with his family's enemy, and then kills his family is not a traitor? I think you need to visit the oxford dictionary
 

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He also ruled over Konoha the longest also. To me he is just the most analytical and desicive Hokage ever. Anyone here agrees or disagrees? Let me hear why too. Just remember i am a rep cannon. U_U

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You are correct in one aspect, he was the most tolerant leader, which could be construed as the "Best". However, you misunderstand the circumstances on multiple points.

He had no reason to have a bias against the Uchiha, which was essentially 1/2 the village when the Senju/Uchiha made it, so the 1st and 2nd were biased against half the village, thus they weren't seen as such great leaders in the cooperation aspect.

In terms of Raw power and influence, Hashirama and Tobirama were much better. They demanded the respect and cooperation of other villages, and even gave away their power to equalize the villages, which was a good thought, but may and most likely did, lead to the future wars after they were gone/what killed Tobirama.
 

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Yeah the one who didn't give a sh*t about Naruto and let him live alone and not take any action against the hate of the villagers towards Naruto.

Worse, his father shove him a monster knowing that he would be hated for it and sacrifice himself so his son can be 5 minutes with his mother
 

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Sarutobi just took over the massive project that was already ahead of the other villages. Tobirama and hashirama did that. Hashirama built the village itself and tobirama made the laws and infrastructure hell all the other villages followed their example and they had to pay for the Tailed beast since the leaf had most of them so they were a superpower b4 sarutobi took over.
 

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Agree he was the best hokage .. with Danzo's help
 

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Under Hiruzen reign Konoha won 3 wars and made the village the most powerful, the only reason people hate him is because he kill a bunch of traitors.
 

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1 uchiha massacre
2 bullied smaller nations ...which resulted monsters such as nagato
3 2-world war
4 dozens of experiment on kids...such as yamato....
5 war with sound and sand village...
6 conflict with sand village....until tsunade fixed it
7 assassination waterfall village clan/masked fodders clan
8 lost last uchiha...despite knowing orochimaru was after him....
9 sannin end... all three left village...

hiruzen rules...
 
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1 uchiha massacre
2 bullied smaller nations ...which resulted monsters such as nagato
3 2-world war
4 dozens of experiment on kids...such as yamato....
5 war with sound and sand village...
6 conflict with sand village....until Naruto fixed it
7 assassination waterfall village clan/masked fodders clan
8 lost last uchiha...despite knowing orochimaru was after him....

hiruzen rules...

No need for thank's
 

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1 uchiha massacre
2 bullied smaller nations ...which resulted monsters such as nagato
3 2-world war
4 dozens of experiment on kids...such as yamato....
5 war with sound and sand village...
6 conflict with sand village....until tsunade fixed it
7 assassination waterfall village clan/masked fodders clan
8 lost last uchiha...despite knowing orochimaru was after him....
9 sannin fall... all three left village...

hiruzen rules...

Why so negative? He fended off Kurama, stopped the coup de etat. Or doesn't that matter?
 

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1 uchiha massacre
2 bullied smaller nations ...which resulted monsters such as nagato
3 2-world war
4 dozens of experiment on kids...such as yamato....
5 war with sound and sand village...
6 conflict with sand village....until tsunade fixed it
7 assassination waterfall village clan/masked fodders clan
8 lost last uchiha...despite knowing orochimaru was after him....
9 sannin end... all three left village...

hiruzen rules...
Nope U_U
1. Something was going to Happen to the Uchiha regardless, sprouted from Tobirama's reign and Kyuubi attack.
2. Nope, you can thank Madara, Obito, Hanzo, and Danzo for that
3. He didn't start the war, he protected his people AND he had the longest time of piece
4. That was Orochimaru, once he learned he went to confront him
5. Sound and Sand attacked, wrong again
6. Nope, Hiruzen was offering peace to the Kazekage (Oro in disguise), Tsunade didn't fix it
7. This sounds like filler or didn't happen in the manga
8. He was dead before Sasuke left, and Sasuke CHOSE to leave.
9. Each one chose to left, Oro for the search of ninjutsu, Jiraiya for writing/child of prophecy, and Tsunade forgot the values of shinobi.

Praise Hiruzen
 

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This ..
not only a great hokage .. danzo himself said that hiruzen was better than him

Hiruzen was the wisest of all the Hokage. Danzo was Hiruzens best friend so he didn't want to kill him plus he knew Danzo intnetions were in the villages best interest. Danzo has already admitted inferiorty to Hiruzen, he said his whole life he could never catch up to him. Its a Goku and Vegeta situation actually.

Hiruzen at age 70 was strongest Kage in the world, noted by Kabuto who has spent his whole life in all 5 great ninja countries. That means he was still stronger than Ay, Mei, Onoki, and Gaara daddy.

He knew about the Akatsuki even before Itachi did.

He was hokager for ever 50 years.
 

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Why so negative? He fended off Kurama, stopped the coup de etat. Or doesn't that matter?

Are you talking about Hiruzen? The one who couldn't do shit to Kurama and was begging for Minato's help?
 
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