Hiruzen led Konoha the Best

[MinaButt]

He is the worst hokage imo. He just sat there with his crystal ball and did nothing.

 

[Mattek2008]

Hashirama established the village, Tobirama improved it. Hiruzen kept the peace and Minato sacrificed himself for the village.

As for the best, it depends. Hiruzen seriously F'cked up with Danzo, although the argumment of Danzo using KA on Hiruzen can be legit.

They were all great and bad in their own way.

I think Tobirama had the most realistic approach to keeping peace, and he was no push over.

Minato died too early to be judged accordingly, but he sacrificed everything for the village so that makes him great imo U_U

Hashirama is the reason the village exists, and he put the villages over his personal feelings when he *Killed* Madara. He truly wanted peace and he was a great Hokage.

Tsunade hasn't done much, but she is also a good Hokage, since she put the lives of the people over her own again and again. + She is also in good standing with the other Kage, unlike thouse before her.

Hiruzen had the longest reign of all of them, so him making a few misstakes is understandable. Still think he was way too compassionate with Danzo, however.

 

[patrickscott]

naw i think itachi beats him in decision making and intel so does minato and yea he was trained by hashi and tobirama but they owned him neg diff

Dude but name another shinobi without a sharingan or kekkei Genkkai that could hold their own if Hashi and Tobirama were at full power.

 

[patrickscott]

He is the worst hokage imo. He just sat there with his crystal ball and did nothing.

Lol i didn't know he hada crystal ball. I guess that's one way of looking at it.

 

[LuckyMan]

Hiruzen was the wisest of all the Hokage. Danzo was Hiruzens best friend so he didn't want to kill him plus he knew Danzo intnetions were in the villages best interest. Danzo has already admitted inferiorty to Hiruzen, he said his whole life he could never catch up to him. Its a Goku and Vegeta situation actually.

Hiruzen at age 70 was strongest Kage in the world, noted by Kabuto who has spent his whole life in all 5 great ninja countries. That means he was still stronger than Ay, Mei, Onoki, and Gaara daddy.

He knew about the Akatsuki even before Itachi did.

He was hokager for ever 50 years.

 

[Cresee]

He didn't want to twist Naruto and make him evil. He instead let him live alone so he could see that there are also people who believe in him, and it is important to have dreams and friends.

You spoil a kid's life, letting him live alone and let him be abused by the villagers just for the sake of that? Tell me how could Naruto turn evil if got the company of villagers?

He is the worst hokage imo. He just sat there with his crystal ball and did nothing.

True

 

[Wabbit]

Let us see..In his era he had Sannin,The white fang,Minato and those little noob kids who would die stepping on landmines and kids like Kakashi.If anything that has made him a long ruler it is not him it looks like the other shinobis did.No foriegn shinobi shitted bricks seeing him.Unlike in the case of other hokages even though he made it through wars.
He totally sucked at handling Danzo and Orochimaru.Lack of decision skills,leadership and ignoring future threat.
One thing he was good at as showed in the manga is interacting with his villagers taking care of his shinobis.He had good relationship with them.That Ibiki saying that his master God of Shinobi Lol.He guided Iruka and many younger generation of shinobis he was also Narutos guardian.

 

[Umari Senju]

I love how you guys bash Hiruzen for not stopping the Uchiha massacre. Did you forget the Uchiha were planning a coup?

Not to mention after the Kyuubi attack it was the village as a whole who began to mistrust the Uchiha. The Uchiha withdrew from public view and began their macinations to overthrow Hiruzen. Had Hiruzen done what you guys are suggesting, do you really think the rest of the Hidden leaf would follow?

Hiruzen would have had so much infighting amongst the clans that Kanoha as a whole would have crumbled. What you guys wanted was for Hiruzen to crush Danzo and anyone else that didn't agree with his views. There's a word for that:

Tyrant

Hiruzen has made his share of mistakes yes, but the Uchiha massacre was the Uchiha's own doing when their leader decided not to open talks with the Hokage directly. They chose to linger in the shadows and overthrow their leader...and were massacred for it. All and all Hiruzen was a pretty good leader. But all the Hokage have had to deal with terrible issues like these.

The Kyuubi Attack happened during Minato's reign
Madara's defection and the VOTE battle happened during Hashirama's reign
2nd Ninja World War happened during Tobirama's reign
the village was utterly destroyed under Tsunade's reign.

I think Hiruzen did ok.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Loyal my ass. They didn't deserve what they got. And the Uchiha's would've made everyone in the village fodder if they did go with the Coup De Tat. Everyone would be dead, but Itachi became a traitor. He chose over his own blood, which is disgraceful.

how would they make everyone in konoha fodders? the strongest one's were shisui and itachi. now shisui got destroyed by danzo and itachi would have done good for awhile but eventually he would have died to he was strong but not strong enough the leaf village would have won did u forget about the Hyuuga clan there supporting the leaf?

 

[Cresee]

Loyal my ass. They didn't deserve what they got. And the Uchiha's would've made everyone in the village fodder if they did go with the Coup De Tat. Everyone would be dead, but Itachi became a traitor. He chose over his own blood, which is disgraceful.

How? It's not like the clans will sit there waiting for you to kill them. Choosing over his own blood and killing his parents to protect the leaf makes him a traitor?

 

[Liquid Snake]

Dude but name another shinobi without a sharingan or kekkei Genkkai that could hold their own if Hashi and Tobirama were at full power.

well we dont know what percent of power they were. i mean hiruzen isnt to tough im pretty its a couple ppl who might be able to do it like sage mode naruto i know for a fact beats oro and those two edo's

 

[patrickscott]

Let us see..In his era he had Sannin,The white fang,Minato and those little noob kids who would die stepping on landmines and kids like Kakashi.If anything that has made him a long ruler it is not him it looks like the other shinobis did.No foriegn shinobi shitted bricks seeing him.Unlike in the case of other hokages even though he made it through wars.
He totally sucked at handling Danzo and Orochimaru.Lack of decision skills,leadership and ignoring future threat.
One thing he was good at as showed in the manga is interacting with his villagers taking care of his shinobis.He had good relationship with them.That Ibiki saying that his master God of Shinobi Lol.He guided Iruka and many younger generation of shinobis he was also Narutos guardian.

Danzo was his best friend man. Take Hebi Sasuke and Sage mode Naruto for example, when they fought. No matter how long, Naruto didn't wan't to kill Sasuke.

 

[patrickscott]

well we dont know what percent of power they were. i mean hiruzen isnt to tough im pretty its a couple ppl who might be able to do it like sage mode naruto i know for a fact beats oro and those two edo's

Now imagine if Naruto was 70 years old. He didn't have kurama. Only his jutsu. No sage mode. You think he would have still won?

 

[Wabbit]

Danzo was his best friend man. Take Hebi Sasuke and Sage mode Naruto for example, when they fought. No matter how long, Naruto didn't wan't to kill Sasuke.

When you are in a higher responisible position and let your freinds do what they want it is CORRUPTION.He let Danzo slip away with his attrocities.It was his responsibility as a hokage to keep watch and control him.

 

[patrickscott]

When you are in a higher responisible position and let your freinds do what he wants it is CORRUPTION.He let Danzo slip away with his attrocities.

Hashi kinda let Madara do his own thing in the past too. He had no choice but to half kill him. I say half because he didn't finish the job.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Nah tobiroma was the best hokage but thanks to danzo konoha is now one of the strongest villages

 

[Cresee]

Hashi kinda let Madara do his own thing in the past too. He had no choice but to half kill him. I say half because he didn't finish the job.

Half kill him? He didn't know that Madara wasn't dead, and that's different from letting some one live. Hiruzen even after knowing that Danzo was trying to kill him didn't take a single action against him.

 

[Wabbit]

Hashi kinda let Madara do his own thing in the past too. He had no choice but to half kill him. I say half because he didn't finish the job.

Hashi took the responcibility and killed Madara.He made it clear to Madara that he is wrong and no one ****s with the village.It was not Hashiramas intention to half kill Madara.Comparing Danzo and Madara doesnt make sense Madara wanted to do things his own way and left the village while Danzo wanted to be a hokage to do things on his own way and when he could not he tried to do things on his own anyway because Hiruzen was too lazy?.It is like you cant officially handle the problem lets hire those mercs and let them do the job in their dirty way,who cares.
Tsunade on the other hand made it clear to village elders that it is she who is the hokage.

 

[JStar King]

How? It's not like the clans will sit there waiting for you to kill them. Choosing over his own blood and killing his parents to protect the leaf makes him a traitor?

Tobirama was racist against the Uchiha despite the alliance. He forced the Uchiha to live on the outskirts of the village and heavily survaillence was placed on them. The Senju manipulated the Uchiha before they were annihilated. It was wrong to do. Hashirama didn't want to prosecute the Uchiha. He wanted peace. Don't get me wrong, Tobirama was a good Hokage, but he should've let bygones be bygones. The Uchiha deserved to get partial credit and equal rights within Konoha's government, but no. They got the short end of the stick. Madara was right.

 

[Cresee]

Tobirama was racist against the Uchiha despite the alliance. He forced the Uchiha to live on the outskirts of the village and heavily survaillence was placed on them. The Senju manipulated the Uchiha before they were annihilated. It was wrong to do. Hashirama didn't want to prosecute the Uchiha. He wanted peace. Don't get me wrong, Tobirama was a good Hokage, but he should've let bygones be bygones. The Uchiha deserved to get partial credit and equal rights within Konoha's government, but no. They got the short end of the stick. Madara was right.

Meh, no. I'm not denying that fact at all. I was just telling that Itachi was not a traitor.