[VS] Hebi sasuke vs current gaara

[genii96]

Im pretty sure the liger bomb weakened the structural integrity of sasuke's rib cage

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as for raiton not beating sand, the burden of proof lies with you to prove it can resist an offensive raiton attack. until you can the verdict stands.

it gave it little cracks,not much notable damage,he also had momentum to boot. A v2 chop,without any momentum whatsoever,did more damage,how is that explainable?.

Sand dosent conduct electricity,by right it should be strong against it,chidori was just a strong piercing attack,which his defence couldnt deal with at that time.

If his sand wasnt affected by he raikage flowing his chakra through water dragon,and was still able to catch madara what makes it weak to raiton?

 

[Curse Mark]

^ That is an armour, not something reserved for an offensive attack. Even Third Raikage for a Raiton Attack uses Chidori like full-fingered, two-fingered, and one-fingered Raiton attack - the one fingered one is a hell-stab. All of Ae's attacks are physical tackles. No where in the manga is it shown or stated that Ae's armour adds Raiton-based attacks to his offensive moves.

The rest is irrelevant. His Absolute Defense was breached easily, simple.

Wasn't it said his shroud turns his attacks into nin-tai?

it gave it little cracks,not much notable damage,he also had momentum to boot. A v2 chop,without any momentum whatsoever,did more damage,how is that explainable?.

Sand dosent conduct electricity,by right it should be strong against it,chidori was just a strong piercing attack,which his defence couldnt deal with at that time.

If his sand wasnt affected by he raikage flowing his chakra through water dragon,and was still able to catch madara what makes it weak to raiton?

No noticeable damage? One of the ribs broke.

 

[genii96]

Ae as able to break clean through the summit wall, when he didn't have any Raiton Armour on. What I meant is that it doesn't add any Raiton-based essence to the attack like Chidori does. Otherwise, Third Raikage wouldn't need to Focus Raiton on his fingers for a lethal attack. This Armour doesn't focus any Raiton anywhere, but rather surrounds the user, which is why it didn't affect the sand, whereas Sasuke's Chidori did. It's canon. You denying it makes little sense to me.

That Sand was literally clinging onto water. Not even the same scenario. It was literally Dragon-bullet mud. As I said, focused Raiton is shown to be Gaara's sand's weakness, and I'm sorry, but it's canon.

AY broke through a summit wall in base,couldnt break susanoo in v1,broke it cleanly in v2,unless the susanoo got magically weaker,then the armour has something to do with it.

What do you mean by mud?,the madara didnt know there was sand there until it got him,the sand and water did not mix and how does that even help your case?,the raiton Ay sent through the water didnt affect it simple. There is nothing like just focused raiton,it's either it is weak to raiton or not,there is no"it is weak to focused raiton" that is just crappy. Fire is weak to water,nothing like focused water or warm water or any of that,so i dont know where you get this from. Manga has shown twice gaara having no problem with raiton. Neither kakashi nor sasuke attributed chidori breaching the defence to sand being weak to raiton. Chidori was just a powerful piercing technique,that gaara couldnt deal with back then.

However u clearly wont change your mind so i'l just leave it. However,if sasuke went through all that effort just to scratch gaara's shoulder and get him arm stuck,then it is hardly useful against current gaara cuz he is going to get killed once he tries that,and that is if he can even get cloe enough

Wasn't it said his shroud turns his attacks into nin-tai?



No noticeable damage? One of the ribs broke.

yea,it turns his moves into nin-tai. The ribs broke only when v2 A hit it,v1 Ay gave a small crack

 

[shelke]

Wasn't it said his shroud turns his attacks into nin-tai?

What his shroud enhances the most is his Reflex Speed, which according to Chee, is off the charts. As far as I can tell, it doesn't seem to enhance his physical attacks by a large degree, as I mentioned that he broke through the Summit Wall easily, without any armour at all. He wasn't even in any mood to actually fight then.

@genii96

The sand had completely retained or filled the shape of the Dragon-Bullet from Mei, which means, it wasn't capable of moving at its own accord to a very large degree. He broke through it in V2 as it was weakened in his Raigar Bomb attack. If you look closely, the corner of the Susano'o was chipped. It was Sasuke's first time using Susano'o anyway, and I wouldn't even call it a proper rib-version - it was even below that.

 

[slimreaper]

AY broke through a summit wall in base,couldnt break susanoo in v1,broke it cleanly in v2,unless the susanoo got magically weaker,then the armour has something to do with it.

What do you mean by mud?,the madara didnt know there was sand there until it got him,the sand and water did not mix and how does that even help your case?,the raiton Ay sent through the water didnt affect it simple. There is nothing like just focused raiton,it's either it is weak to raiton or not,there is no"it is weak to focused raiton" that is just crappy. Fire is weak to water,nothing like focused water or warm water or any of that,so i dont know where you get this from. Manga has shown twice gaara having no problem with raiton. Neither kakashi nor sasuke attributed chidori breaching the defence to sand being weak to raiton. Chidori was just a powerful piercing technique,that gaara couldnt deal with back then.

However u clearly wont change your mind so i'l just leave it. However,if sasuke went through all that effort just to scratch gaara's shoulder and get him arm stuck,then it is hardly useful against current gaara cuz he is going to get killed once he tries that,and that is if he can even get cloe enough



yea,it turns his moves into nin-tai. The ribs broke only when v2 A hit it,v1 Ay gave a small crack

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he broke a rib.

you still have no proof to support your argument that sand isn't weak to lightning

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Garra mid difficulty.

 

[Curse Mark]

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Rib completely broke off in this scan, geni.

 

[genii96]

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he broke a rib.

you still have no proof to support your argument that sand isn't weak to lightning

yea,i missed that,however it wasnt brnken,part of the rib broke off,not the entire rib. Sasuke didnt feel much effect from the attach either.Io v2,he completely broke the ribs and sent sasuke flying with a chop without any momentum,clearly a difference. What makes fuuton strong against raiton!The fact that it is a natural conductor,the same as sand, and ive given evidence that Ay's raiton was flowed through a wateq dragon and his sand wasnt affected at all despite the fact that suiton and raiton enhance eachother when combined. What more proof is there? @ shelke, no the water dragon utterly covered the rand as it wasnt visible to madara for him to notice. Yea a bit was chirped off,ydt when Ay went for the V2 chop,the ribcage wasnt damaged,,it had ample time to reform after that...@dkdankong yea i see that now

 

[sharingansennin]

Sasuke's Chidori is much stronger now

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[slimreaper]

yea,i missed that,however it wasnt brnken,part of the rib broke off,not the entire rib. Sasuke didnt feel much effect from the attach either.Io v2,he completely broke the ribs and sent sasuke flying with a chop without any momentum,clearly a difference. What makes fuuton strong against raiton!The fact that it is a natural conductor,the same as sand, and ive given evidence that Ay's raiton was flowed through a wateq dragon and his sand wasnt affected at all despite the fact that suiton and raiton enhance eachother when combined. What more proof is there? @ shelke, no the water dragon utterly covered the rand as it wasnt visible to madara for him to notice. Yea a bit was chirped off,ydt when Ay went for the V2 chop,the ribcage wasnt damaged,,it had ample time to reform after that...@dkdankong yea i see that now

Do you think that one rib took the entirety of the slam? obviously the structural integrity was compromised.

Proof sand beats lightning of GTFO

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol at the ppl saying chidori nagashi gets through sand tsunami.

The only reason why chidori gets through garras sand is because of its penetrating power. Chidori nagashi doesn't have penetrating power and thus sasuke gets trapped/stopped. Just like ay.

 

[MickNerks]

Current Gaara wins with low difficulty.

Susanoo is useless, gaara actually has feats of pulling a user out of his susanoo

Speed is a none factor since gaara's techniques cover a large area at once. Also, I highly doubt sasuke will see through the sand hail combo.

Lightning tech's arnt relavent, since chidori was a piercing attack. Any other lighting attack wouldn't do a thing. Shown when gaara coaght raikage.

 

[genii96]

Do you think that one rib took the entirety of the slam? obviously the structural integrity was compromised.

Proof sand beats lightning of GTFO

uh-huh,if tha raikage had attacked immediately after the liger bomb then you would jave had a point. However the time difference between the liger bomb and chop was more than enough time for sasuke to reform the damaged parts,and for the internal structure to stabilize again. This is a very healthy ribcage,

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. Unless you are trying to say that sasuke decided to fight raikage with a broken down ribcage.

As for the sand argument,well i'l just say it once more,
1) sand is an insulator just like fuuton is,thus is strong against lightening
2) it had no problem holding up against V2 Ay's shroud despite him giving off bijuu level chakra
3)when it was hidden in mei's water dragon Ay flowed his raiton through it,and guess what?,not a single effect on the sand.

So yea,it has no problem with raiton.

 

[Bronze]

Gaara between low-mid diff.

While Sasuke's reflexes and speed increased in P2, Gaara can produce an overwhelming supply of sand to control the landscape > [

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]. Even with Sasuke's godlike speed, he cannot dodge a controlled sand, forcing the latter to use CM2 wings to stay on air or summon the hawk and hop on it. However, being on air puts him on disadvantage, as Gaara can produce massive amount of sand to catch his flying opponents [

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]. Sasuke is not fast on air as Deidara, so he has no chance of escaping. Other argument such as, Chidori and its versatile forms and Kirin are tanked by the defense of sand.​

 

[Dark Riku]

It can go either way though i'm leaning more towards Sasuke.

 

[paratise]

What's with the edo threads??

 

[Apêx1]

^^Wut. Why was this thread revived...

 

[Optimistic]

Why do people revive old threads?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

.-. Gaara low diff

 

[Akasuna]

Gaara demolishes. Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke would be a better match.