Hashirama's Hype Is Nothing Bu t'' BS''

[HadouKage]

The powers of that summoning are not your own.

Oh no you don't hypocrite -____-
Don't play this BS now, I remember debating with you on this topic.
That is debatable or in a more literal sense, correct

 

[KingHashirama]

A summoning does make it your power

Summoning = teleporting

The ability to teleport something to help you is your power. But another person is not your power. Its simple logic and common sense.

 

[HadouKage]

Summoning = teleporting

The ability to teleport something to help you is your power. But another person is not your power. Its simple logic and common sense.

And doesn't Kabuto summon them from their graves? Oh logical one :|

 

[Draphsin]

Oh no you don't hypocrite -____-
Don't play this BS now, I remember debating with you on this topic.
That is debatable or in a more literal sense, correct

Madara has the power to summon & control kurama, that makes kurama his power, okay still following?

Now a tbb on the other hand is kurama's power, its not madara's power but merely part of his summon/weapon/tool. Kabuto's arsenal is what does the fighting, not kabuto. The ninja are kabuto's power but their techniques are not. They are a separate being completely & because of that you can never say kabuto "solos" anybody with edos.

Kabuto cant "solo" EMS madara (which was the main point I was getting across from previous posts).

 

[KingHashirama]

And doesn't Kabuto summon them from their graves? Oh logical one :|

....Are you trying to go against me? or trying to prove my point?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Just a little clarification here.
Kurama that madara used, has some heavy drawbacks.
1. Takes good chakra to summon.
2. Drains chakra constantly to maintain genjutsu control over it, most likely prevents madara from using one on hashirama as result.

SM on the other hand is win/win situation. In comparison to other SM users hashirama got 100fold stronger WTF kishi.

 

[Bronze]

Ok, I'll demolish

First of all neither Hashi nor Madara are my favorites, so you just made yourself look real dumb
Secondly, you contour your observational intelligence based off a hyperbole Madara has stated but choose not to believe him when he gives the utmost praise to his superior rival after there has been blatant obvious feats of his defeat??

F**k logic :|

if i am gonna believe madara's opinion how hashirama is the best, then i must also believe that onoki is the only on that can stop muu, only naruto surpasses minato, konan's opinion about how nagato is unbeatable.

 

[HadouKage]

Madara has the power to summon & control kurama, that makes kurama his power, okay still following?

Now a tbb on the other hand is kurama's power, its not madara's power but merely part of his summon/weapon/tool. Kabuto's arsenal is what does the fighting, not kabuto. The ninja are kabuto's power but their techniques are not. They are a separate being completely & because of that you can never say kabuto "solos" anybody with edos.

Kabuto cant "solo" EMS madara (which was the main point I was getting across from previous posts).

Please don't play this stupid game Draphsin as I'm the one who stated the bold in our previous debate. I'm well aware of who is who and what is what.

....Are you trying to go against me? or trying to prove my point?

I'm not disagreeing with Madara summoning the Kyubi, however I am disagreeing that Edo Tensei not being Kabuto's power when it is. Therefore the ninja are his power

 

[HadouKage]

if i am gonna believe madara's opinion how hashirama is the best, then i must also believe that onoki is the only on that can stop muu, only naruto surpasses minato, konan's opinion about how nagato is unbeatable.

Stop contradicting yourself, you can't pick and choose what you want to believe if your very own character is speaking facts

 

[KingHashirama]

Just a little clarification here.
Kurama that madara used, has some heavy drawbacks.
1. Takes good chakra to summon.
2. Drains chakra constantly to maintain genjutsu control over it, most likely prevents madara from using one on hashirama as result.

SM on the other hand is win/win situation. In comparison to other SM users hashirama got 100fold stronger WTF kishi.

Kurama was also the only reason.. Madara himself stated "He was on top" ;]. Madara himself believed Kurama helped him Sooo yea.

And am i sensing butthurt?

 

[Bronze]

1. Summon = teleporting. He uses his chakra to call for help =]. He has the choice to control them like puppets. No summoning jutsu is someone's power. But you don't know what summoning jutsu is.

2. ^

3. Incorrect ninjutsu does not automatically = ninja

4. Reread your manga, the barrier was used first.. in which the juubi wasn't restrained. Then Hashirama used the gates and restrained the Juubi, before going on a fanboyism trolling spree atleast check your manga facts.

Definition of fairy tale : a story involving fantastic forces and beings

Stop spouting shit that you don't know about.

1- last time i am gonna say this, edo tensie is part of kabuto's power why? because he summons them on the battlefield.

2-^

3-yes it does. ninjutsu is supernatural abilities, ninja is the one that does supernatural abilities, therefore ninjutsu = ninja.

4-hashirama can only restrain juubi less than 10 sec, then he needs the barrier to contain it, so that it doesnt move around.

i know what i was talking about. people dont believe in fairytales, but they do believe in shitrama, meaning shitrama is no fairytale like what kabuto said.

 

[Space Cowboy]

The butt-hurt on this thread is heavy. OP, youre an idiot troll, and edos are Kabuto's power. Get over it already damn. All the Kabuto haters are fighting a losing battle

 

[Draphsin]

Please don't play this stupid game Draphsin as I'm the one who stated the bold in our previous debate. I'm well aware of who is who and what is what.

Lol, not once have I said that kurama's tbb is madara's power. Tbb slash would be his though because he's utilizing kurama's power to create his own new technique, like naruto & a mini-tbb, or kiba & gatsuuga.

All of kurama's jutsus & edo tensei's jutsus belong to their respective creators.

The butt-hurt on this thread is heavy. OP, youre an idiot troll, and edos are Kabuto's power. Get over it already damn. All the Kabuto haters are fighting a losing battle

So Kabuto can use zabuza's hidden mist whenever he wants? or he can use Itachi's KA? What about nagato's CBT?

No, kabuto first needs to summon the edo & then command it to do so. Thats kabuto's power, summoning & commanding & nothing more.

The edos are his, their jutsus are not.

 

[HadouKage]

Lol, not once have I said that kurama's tbb is madara's power. Tbb slash would be his though because he's utilizing kurama's power to create his own new technique, like naruto & a mini-tbb, or kiba & gatsuuga.

All of kurama's jutsus & edo tensei's jutsus belong to their respective creators.

And that's the part we disagreed on. It's their combined power because one can't exist without the other

 

[Bronze]

Madara has the power to summon & control kurama, that makes kurama his power, okay still following?

Now a tbb on the other hand is kurama's power, its not madara's power but merely part of his summon/weapon/tool. Kabuto's arsenal is what does the fighting, not kabuto. The ninja are kabuto's power but their techniques are not. They are a separate being completely & because of that you can never say kabuto "solos" anybody with edos.

Kabuto cant "solo" EMS madara (which was the main point I was getting across from previous posts).

i dont care. edo tensie is one of kabuto and orochimaru's jutsu arsenal, they can summon them to help in a fight.

 

[HadouKage]

Lol, not once have I said that kurama's tbb is madara's power. Tbb slash would be his though because he's utilizing kurama's power to create his own new technique, like naruto & a mini-tbb, or kiba & gatsuuga.

All of kurama's jutsus & edo tensei's jutsus belong to their respective creators.



So Kabuto can use zabuza's hidden mist whenever he wants? or he can use Itachi's KA? What about nagato's CBT?

No, kabuto first needs to summon the edo & then command it to do so. Thats kabuto's power, summoning & commanding & nothing more.

The edos are his, their jutsus are not.

If Kabuto commanding them to use an attack is not his power, how is Madara controlling the Kyubi to use a BD to create the BD Slash his power? You sound contradictory

 

[AlphaScythian]

Kurama was also the only reason.. Madara himself stated "He was on top" ;]. Madara himself believed Kurama helped him Sooo yea.
And am i sensing butthurt?

What madara stated here is irrelevant, i cant deny his inferiority complex, ! PS slash at hashirama would own him. However even u should be capable of seeing madara's power disregarding the plot and even the dynamics of that particular fight.
Madara could've go all out b4 hashirama attained SM thus easily win. He didnt.
Madara could run the opposite side, gaining more time to launch more TBBs, thus finishing rest of buddah. He charged into the fists instead. Even vs SM hashi madara could win if kishi needed it so.
The manga outcome? Yes he lost.
Power wise? Yes he was on top imho.

 

[KingHashirama]

1- last time i am gonna say this, edo tensie is part of kabuto's power why? because he summons them on the battlefield.

2-^

3-yes it does. ninjutsu is supernatural abilities, ninja is the one that does supernatural abilities, therefore ninjutsu = ninja.

4-hashirama can only restrain juubi less than 10 sec, then he needs the barrier to contain it, so that it doesnt move around.

i know what i was talking about. people dont believe in fairytales, but they do believe in shitrama, meaning shitrama is no fairytale like what kabuto said.

1. Last time I'm gonna say this.. You need check your shit , and then respond. Go learn what a summoning is smartass.

2. ^

3. Dumbass, Ninja is a way of life...... lmao. Not someone who uses ninjutsu.

4. Really only for 10 seconds? so your saying the last chapter only happened in 10 seconds? really? And the barrier is so it won't cause Damage outside.

Where does it say people believed in Hashirama? That every single person beleived he existed? Cause I can use the same thing for SO6P, and say everyone knew the Sage existed. The fact it literally states that there were people who considered him a fairytale proves your point wrong.

The butt-hurt on this thread is heavy. OP, youre an idiot troll, and edos are Kabuto's power. Get over it already damn. All the Kabuto haters are fighting a losing battle

Calling someone a Kabuto hater, because they believe 3rd Raikage and Muu aren't part of Kabuto's power makes you look like a idiot..... And I have no care if this is offensive to you.

I have been Kabuto fan ever since he proved his loyalty to Orochimaru. Its annoying for us loyal fans that you idiots keep using other people to help Kabuto out and then declare " ohh hes the strongest because he has 30+ Strong shinobi on his side".... uh no.

 

[Draphsin]

And that's the part we disagreed on. It's their combined power because one can't exist without the other

Well, since that is kind of irrelevant to the topic at hand how about we just drop it & move on? Lol

i dont care. edo tensie is one of kabuto and orochimaru's jutsu arsenal, they can summon them to help in a fight.

You not caring doesnt work my friend, also Kabuto needs to add in his sealing tags for every edo he summons. Giving kabuto his edos with their sealing tags is the exact same thing as madara starting with susanoo armored kurama already active. So no kabuto cant use his edos whenever he wants because thats not how fights work. Ninja meet randomly in battle & kabuto/obito is a good example of this. Unless kabuto was prepared to fight madara then he would not add the tags into his edos thus rendering them ineffective.

So not only are the jutsus of kabuto's edos not his, therefore he cant solo madara, but he cant even summon & effectively tag all 30 edos before madara can summon & mount kurama.

Oro is a different concept. He would summon hashi not knowing that hashi would break free, thereby killing himself because hashi will turn on oro after madara.

If Kabuto commanding them to use an attack is not his power, how is Madara controlling the Kyubi to use a BD to create the BD Slash his power? You sound contradictory

I said that kabuto commanding them to use an attack is his power, summoning & commanding are the traits of edo tensei.

 

[Space Cowboy]

Lol, not once have I said that kurama's tbb is madara's power. Tbb slash would be his though because he's utilizing kurama's power to create his own new technique, like naruto & a mini-tbb, or kiba & gatsuuga.

All of kurama's jutsus & edo tensei's jutsus belong to their respective creators.



So Kabuto can use zabuza's hidden mist whenever he wants? or he can use Itachi's KA? What about nagato's CBT?

No, kabuto first needs to summon the edo & then command it to do so. Thats kabuto's power, summoning & commanding & nothing more.

The edos are his, their jutsus are not.

..But once he sets them on kill-mode they do whatever they need to destroy their enemy. Kabuto doesnt order shit by then. You people try and make this so damn complicated. Let me make it simple for you:
1. Kabuto summons edos
2. Kabuto commands the edos to fight for him if need be
3. Edos rape, Kabuto still alive, Kabuto wins
Not rocket science to determine who won, is it? KABUTO