Ive seen you on other debates, and while youre usually logical, youre making this much too easy.
I guess you just cant see my point of view. I find this easy as well, does that make it a bad argument on your part though? Lol
1st point: You had me looking all over the god damn manga, but i found the page where Madara finally gets summoned by Muu. Lo and behold, he comes straight out of his coffin WITH THE TAGS IN. Meaning they get the tags put in and then can be put back in the coffins no problem to be summoned as necessary.
I know of this scan, but how do you know that kabuto didnt add in his sealing tag before he got muu to summon him? Remember the first encounter with edo madara? He was a ragdoll & had no personality, therefore thats how kabuto would have to summon him. His jutsu starts off as summoning mindless dummies until he adds the sealing tags. He cant and has never summoned an edo with their personality fully intact by himself & I stated this earlier
2nd point: Stupid logic. Summoning as a whole should be eliminated then correct? Because having a contract seal ahead of time is "prep time"
Really? Actually youre not looking at it right. Take a rasengan, how do you prep a rasengan? You use the necessary shape manipulation in order to make it an attack, same for a summoning contract, you have to cut your hand & summon the animal. Kabuto's edo tensei also works this way & Ill explain why. He needs to summon his edo & add in the necessary sealing tag before he can make it a killing machine. He cant just spawn an edo with its personality because he's never once been shown to do such a thing. Its the same thing as saying naruto can just spawn rasengans in his hand without the shape manipulation, or konan can have pre placed bombs. Normal summonings need no sort of extra prep once they are summoned, however madara/kurama is a different case. Youre saying that madara gets to summon kurama with his susanoo armor already shrouding him, or placed under his genjutsu immediately.
All of the things pertaining to summoning & attacks are what happens during the battle. We saw how kabuto summons his edos during battle (without sealing tags). Therefore it means that kabuto is unable to already have an edo with its personality intact because of prep before the actual battle, same as konans bombs. <<These arent allowed but any prep during battle is allowed. I think ive made it clear?
3rd point: To strengthen. Probably due to the fact that he was at one time controlling and monitoring the movements of 30 + edos. Makes enough sense. She isnt necessary for him to use it.
Anko is the reason why kabuto can control his edos remotely, otherwise he cant switch between auto pilot/full/no control. The manga proves this as well.
4th point: I was well aware of that, you misinterpreted my post. He summons them right then and there, and can have them fight for him right in front of him. Trying and rushing Kabuto isnt a smart move. Youll get impaled.
Theres a scan showing how kabuto summons his edos against obito right then & there. They have no personalities whatsoever. He cant pre prep an edo with a sealing tag because he does that before the battle. Its not a simple powerup like a regular contract summon, which requires no further prep other than "training" (Madara's case being an exception because he has to prep the control & susanoo too). The edo tensei contract is his powerup & the gathering of the DNA was his "training". However edo tensei is a jutsu & pre prepping a jutsu is the same thing as pre prepping paper bombs, or pre prepping madara's control/susanoo over kurama.
Also, kabuto cant give edos sealing tags to give to his other edos, when have you ever seen that happen? Kabuto almost certainly added in the tag himself, & if thats the case then its completely logical to assume that he used muu to simply reverse summon madara to the battlefield.
5th point: He can 100% control an edo while fighting another person. Granted, it leaves him open to a certain extent, but if its someone like Nagato, he can easily defend himself while fighting with a stronger character. Others can also form a wall around him.
No he cant, show me kabuto fully controlling an edo (not auto pilot or forced movements) while fighting in SM, guarantee you wont find it.
6th point: I say "30+ edos" to make a point. Its quite clear that is overkill. For almost any opponent a maximum of two is more than enough to do the job. Meaning it certainly does not need to be Madara or Hashi. Although it was Kabuto's own fault Madara got free in the first place. He shouldve established full control from the get-go
Kabuto's CIS is a part of his intelligence, its not my fault if he is overconfident in his abilities & you cant discredit that. He will summon his strongest edo if he's fighting one of the top 10 therefore madara will be summoned & he will break free.
7th point: They can still kill, and how many shinobi have intel on the funtions of ET in the first place? A very limited number. Not too mention some of the edos had no problem fighting, regardless of the circumstances
Obito, Madara, Oro, Tobi, Hiruzen, Hashi, Itachi, & sasuke. Im not saying that all of these people win but they all have info on edo & know what they need to do to stop it or counter it.
Sorry it took so long, took me awhile to find the manga pages to refer to
lol, well no worries I guess..
.. Notice how in the fight.. Hashirama wasn't even tired.. and wasn't trying to kill Madara.
