Genjutsu affects anyone

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The V2 Chakra cloak literally tears the Jin's body apart and heals it again...

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It actually tears the skin apart, then heals that. That version has never destroyed the body internally or fully the way the Gates does. The fact that later transformations, such as KM, BM and full transformations, don't have this effect is why you never see Naruto doing so again. The only reason Killer Bee still does it is because of how well he gets along with Gyuki and how long he's had control over him.
 

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It actually tears the skin apart, then heals that. That version has never destroyed the body internally or fully the way the Gates does. The fact that later transformations, such as KM, BM and full transformations, don't have this effect is why you never see Naruto doing so again. The only reason Killer Bee still does it is because of how well he gets along with Gyuki and how long he's had control over him.

You don't know if it effects the internal organs or not, but the point still stands, Bijuu chakra is just as corrosive and powerful as 8 Gates.

And it actually does still effect Bee.

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So basically Alive Itachi neg-diffs Kabuto's sound genjutsu?

Don't know. But Shikamaru negged Tayuya's sound genjutsu from the pain caused by breaking a finger. :coffee:
 

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If only you could prove it.
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Look at page 17 on the 4th databook and you should see it,too bad i don't have the pages but you know what to do ,i'm not the one who's trying to prove it you are
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By the way, Cobra, the wiki also isn't reliable
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Anyone can literally write anything there. It's not an official source.
 

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Don't know. But Shikamaru negged Tayuya's sound genjutsu from the pain caused by breaking a finger. :coffee:

Yeah, Itachi doesn't even need Susano'o to break that fodder genjutsu tbh.
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You don't know if it effects the internal organs or not, but the point still stands, Bijuu chakra is just as corrosive and powerful as 8 Gates.

No it's not. Unless you think that the slap that couldn't phase Orochimaru while his body was dying is equally as strong as a blow that made a perfected Juubi Jinchuriki Madara throw up blood.
 

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By the way, Cobra, the wiki also isn't reliable
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Anyone can literally write anything there. It's not an official source.

Do you have the databook pages?
 

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You don't know if it effects the internal organs or not, but the point still stands, Bijuu chakra is just as corrosive and powerful as 8 Gates.

And it actually does still effect Bee.

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It does, seeing as it was stated by Tsunade going into the v2 form multiple times will severely shorten his life-span. It has a lot of toll on the body.​
 

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Look at page 17 on the 4th databook and you should see it,too bad i don't have the pages but you know what to do ,i'm not the one who's trying to prove it you are
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all info are here

I don't know why you keep linking the Wikia as proof. Neither I nor anyone else in a vs. debate is going to randomly take the word of "translators" making statements that cannot be backed up by the manga. Especially when I know where they got their translations from.

The troll who posted it.
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When he was exposed.
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And then more people called him out on his lie, but I unfortunately don't have those screenshots.


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No it's not. Unless you think that the slap that couldn't phase Orochimaru while his body was dying is equally as strong as a blow that made a perfected Juubi Jinchuriki Madara throw up blood.

Simply having the Juubi within you is enough to destroy your body nearly beyond repair...

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But of course, no Juubi jin has been put in a genjutsu.

The fact that Genjutsu was used on these people effortlessly, even while under such powerful effects, means that with more effort even an 8th Gate user could be put under.

But that's just my speculation.
 

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I don't know why you keep linking the Wikia as proof. Neither I nor anyone else in a vs. debate is going to randomly take the word of "translators" making statements that cannot be backed up by the manga. Especially when I know where they got their translations from.

The troll who posted it.
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When he was exposed.
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And then more people called him out on his lie, but I unfortunately don't have those screenshots.


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Some random guy from NF trolling ,how does that effect wikia?
 

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Some random guy from NF trolling ,how does that effect wikia?

If they stated on the wikia that it was immune to that Genjutsu and that information was only added around the time of the troll post... Their source was obviously said troll post.
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Some random guy from NF trolling ,how does that effect wikia?

This is where the "translators" and other morons got their information from.
 

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No it's not. Unless you think that the slap that couldn't phase Orochimaru while his body was dying is equally as strong as a blow that made a perfected Juubi Jinchuriki Madara throw up blood.

btw riker how come the stuff you edited aren't here now?perhaps they removed it


If they stated on the wikia that it was immune to that Genjutsu and that information was only added around the time of the troll post... Their source was obviously said troll post.
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it would instanly get deleted if it's wrong but you can't simply assume that they got it from there,you see where i'm coming from?
 
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it would instanly get deleted if it's wrong but you can't simply assume that they got it from there,you see where i'm coming from?

Not really instantly. I get where you're coming from, but it's too convenient to not be the troll post having been their source.
 

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You don't know if it effects the internal organs or not, but the point still stands, Bijuu chakra is just as corrosive and powerful as 8 Gates.

And it actually does still effect Bee.

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Simply having the Juubi within you is enough to destroy your body nearly beyond repair...

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But of course, no Juubi jin has been put in a genjutsu.

The fact that Genjutsu was used on these people effortlessly, even while under such powerful effects, means that with more effort even an 8th Gate user could be put under.

But that's just my speculation.
What people are you talking about? The Jinchuriki? It's clear that a Bijuu transformation has not ever had the same effect as the Eight Gates. The furthest the Eight Gate has gone is the body starts vaporizing. The furthest a Bijuu transformation has gone is the body becomes deformed. How you can even begin to think they're on the same level is completely beyond me, but hey, if that's what you prefer, then do you.
 

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it would instanly get deleted if it's wrong but you can't simply assume that they got it from there,you see where i'm coming from?

@bold Obviously not.

Yes you can assume it's where they got the information from provided that other translators that actually bothered to do the work could not even find a mention of genjutsu on Nagato's profile. So unless every translator was wrong somehow except the "oh, so reliable" wiki translators, then the only option is that some moron on the wiki read the troll post took it seriously and decided it was "fact".
 

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This is where the "translators" and other morons got their information from.

How do know?the same guy that's supposedly exposed him name is seelenatu has a an account on wikia
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