Genjutsu affects anyone

[Venomous Cobra]

Anyway, i'm sticking to manga, whenever i'm in a debate i'll use the manga and nothing else.

Ok i respect your decision

 

[Punk Hazard]

only the 3rd databook showed contradictions others were fine,Most of you people here that complain about it now use the same databook to support your claims on different topic so yeah

Very few people use the databook anymore to support any claims other than things like what natures a person possesses. It is very seldom used because the databooks aren't credible anymore. You should avoid using them in debates, stick to manga.

 

[Demonic.]

It's common sense. How is it possible to control 8 gate's chakra flow & vast quantity, when the chakra itself splits apart a whole river? You're not making any sense, and you're using "its speculation" as your only basis for your feeble argument. But I don't care if you agree with it or not because you're only interested in trying to insult me. This isn't even a debate, lol. A debate can only take place when both sides make points backed up by facts, which you, for the umpteenth time failed to do. Resorting to name calling because you know you don't have anything to disprove it is all you can do. Lol
Pity.​

I agree. Let's not forget pain breaks genjutsu, and 8th gate guy is in constant pain....since he's pretty much dying.

 

[The Necromancer]

I agree. Let's not forget pain breaks genjutsu, and 8th gate guy is in constant pain....since he's pretty much dying.

Susano'o also causes constant strain "as if every cell in [their] body is on fire", but we know that didn't help.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I could make an account right now claiming to be a japanese translator and fill it with as much bs as I want. That alone is enough to cast doubt on anything from the wiki that can't be directly supported by the manga. Which is why the bold is completely false. No one else is retarded enough to believe statements written by people they don't know that can't be backed up.

Wrong you have to discuss it with other translators before editing anything Lol,and no wikia lives for it reputation ,you people are just in denial

 

[Punk Hazard]

Genjutsu has effected the Hachibi and Kyuubi users, even with chakra cloaks so fast that Samehada couldn't fully absorb them.
Genjutsu has effected Senjutsu users who have the literal power of nature flowing through their body.

The vastness or power of the chakra has absolutely nothing to do with a genjutsu's ability to work.

It's not just the amount of chakra, but also the force and speed the chakra is moving in. The Eight Gates causes the chakra to flow erratically and extremely fast. It's highly unlikely a Genjutsu will work on a user of the Gates because the chakra is constantly flowing in an erratic and forceful manner. The chances of someone taking control of that chakra and manipulating it long enough to place a Genjutsu are slim to none.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Very few people use the databook anymore to support any claims other than things like what natures a person possesses. It is very seldom used because the databooks aren't credible anymore. You should avoid using them in debates, stick to manga.

Nope everyone i debated with so far in NB actually use it ,so if someone debates with me on the stuff that the manga only showed then yeah i'll only use manga info....


i'm just surprised at the amount of hypocrites that acting like they never used the damn wikia before

 

[Trúth]

Wrong you have to discuss it with other translators before editing anything Lol,and no wikia lives for it reputation ,you people are just in denial

So other "translators" have to agree with another "translator" before posting anything? Damn, I'm convinced.

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What a joke. :leaf:

 

[The Necromancer]

It's not just the amount of chakra, but also the force and speed the chakra is moving in. The Eight Gates causes the chakra to flow erratically and extremely fast. It's highly unlikely a Genjutsu will work on a user of the Gates because the chakra is constantly flowing in an erratic and forceful manner. The chances of someone taking control of that chakra and manipulating it long enough to place a Genjutsu are slim to none.

Can you post a scan that the 8 Gates chakra release is any different than a Bijuu chakra release?

 

[Awkward Linguist]

It's not just the amount of chakra, but also the force and speed the chakra is moving in. The Eight Gates causes the chakra to flow erratically and extremely fast. It's highly unlikely a Genjutsu will work on a user of the Gates because the chakra is constantly flowing in an erratic and forceful manner. The chances of someone taking control of that chakra and manipulating it long enough to place a Genjutsu are slim to none.

That's what I was trying to say, but I couldn't put it in those words. Thanks​

 

[BlacLord™]

The databook is full of contradictions and hyperbole. The databooks also said that in order for one to use Susano'o, they need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Obito and Kakashi possessed neither, and what happened?

It also says that Totsuka Blade pierces anything but Yata Mirror deflects anything.

It also says that no opponent ever can dodge Madara's Storm Release stream, but it's only usage in the manga is in a panel where Naruto dodges it.

What's simple fact and what's hyperbole is blatantly obvious.

In the case of Susano'o, Itachi was the only known user at the 3rd databook's time and it was further expanded upon when Sasuke awakened it that it was down to awakening the power of the Mangekyo in both eyes. So, the 3rd databook was technically correct; Itachi awakening both eye powers (Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu) allowed him to unlock his Susano'o.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Can you post a scan that the 8 Gates chakra release is any different than a Bijuu chakra release?

When has a Bijuu chakra release been so intense, it caused the body to tear itself apart and even start vaporizing?

 

[The Necromancer]

When has a Bijuu chakra release been so intense, it caused the body to tear itself apart and even start vaporizing?

The V2 Chakra cloak literally tears the Jin's body apart and heals it again...

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[Venomous Cobra]

So other "translators" have to agreie with another "translator" before posting anything? Damn, I'm convinced.

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What a joke. :leaf:

it doesn't matter if you're convinced ,its true despite the fact hat you don't believe it

 

[Demonic.]

Susano'o also causes constant strain "as if every cell in [their] body is on fire", but we know that didn't help.

Alive Itachi and MS Sasuke were never put in a position were having their Susano out would have broken them free from genjutsu.

Against Kabuto, Itachi was Edo and thus felt no pain. As for Sasuke, I believe EMS removes the drawbacks of feeling pain from Susano.

 

[Goetia]

Ty, and Aizen rules.

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Good man.

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Chakra disrupts chakra flow in the brain, that's how Genjutsu works. People thinking that it doesn't, and then try to argue that not every being in NV has chakra has a few things they need to sort out. But that's none of my business.

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[Chazzi]

Alive Itachi and MS Sasuke were never put in a position were having their Susano out would have broken them free from genjutsu.

Against Kabuto, Itachi was Edo and thus felt no pain. As for Sasuke, I believe EMS removes the drawbacks of feeling pain from Susano.

So basically Alive Itachi neg-diffs Kabuto's sound genjutsu?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

The V2 Chakra cloak literally tears the Jin's body apart and heals it again...

well don't you think that the users speed while in the gates would not allow the genjutsu user to look at the victim's eyes directly ?

 

[Awkward Linguist]

The V2 Chakra cloak literally tears the Jin's body apart and heals it again...

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Taking no credit, but RS rekt it. Are you still in denial?

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[Trúth]

it doesn't matter if you're convinced ,its true despite the fact hat you don't believe it

If only you could prove it.

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