Genjutsu affects anyone

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then how did kaguya used IT on people :|

Genjutsu was defined as the manipulation of chakra in the brain using the user's own chakra, how can it affect anyone without chakra? Since the victim having chkara is a requirement.

The entire Ootsutsuki backstory is convoluted and full of conjecture.

Basically what necromancer said
 

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If what people are saying is true, and the Rinnegan spoiler was faked, then of course the wiki would say that as well, as the wiki is edited by people who know the manga less than most of us here.

Actually they have the best translator an mistake from them would be fixed with less than 2 days ,one month ago wikia said that toreni=madara and everyone believed them ,one day after they fixed it

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so wikia is very creditable

The wiki is written by fans.

and Japanese translators
 
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The entire Ootsutsuki backstory is convoluted and full of conjecture. I don't know what to believe in regards to anything they've ever done.

agreed it created massive amount of plotholes and @sspulls
 

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Every single person in the NV has chakra, ninjas and samurai are just the only ones who know how to use it.

Genjutsu aint affecting non-Naruto characters, end of story.
 

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and Japanese translators
The wiki is in no way proof. It is written by fans who believed a troll. They can claim to be Japanese translators all they want, it doesn't make them correct.
 

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A better evidence is that Kaguya used IT on people in her lifetime, when Hagoromo and Haruma were the first to have chakra for a while.

Nope. It was stated Kaguya went on a rampage because she hated the way other people have her chakra, but only hated her sons when they sealed her. That means other people had to have chakra as well.
 

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Genjutsu was defined as the manipulation of chakra in the brain using the user's own chakra, how can it affect anyone without chakra? Since the victim having chkara is a requirement.

Basically what necromancer said
agreed dunno wut kishi was smoking while introducing aliens :|
 
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Everyone and their grandma claims it to be true, but not a single person has every brought the translation to back it up, so I just ignore them.

It is correct; it was stated in the databook.

OT: Why do people even bother comparing the Avatarverse and NV? The sheer speed difference of the latter makes it unfair.
 

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The entire Ootsutsuki backstory is convoluted and full of conjecture. I don't know what to believe in regards to anything they've ever done.



I know how a genjutsu works you retard. The speculation is that you can't control the 8 Gates chakra. If you can't even understand what I'm typing, why are you trying to debate me?


It's common sense. How is it possible to control 8 gate's chakra flow & vast quantity, when the chakra itself splits apart a whole river? You're not making any sense, and you're using "its speculation" as your only basis for your feeble argument. But I don't care if you agree with it or not because you're only interested in trying to insult me. This isn't even a debate, lol. A debate can only take place when both sides make points backed up by facts, which you, for the umpteenth time failed to do. Resorting to name calling because you know you don't have anything to disprove it is all you can do. Lol
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The wiki is in no way proof. It is written by fans who believed a troll. They can claim to be Japanese translators all they want, it doesn't make them correct.

Well sadly that's just your opinion friend :),alot of people including me trust wikia ,besides they're always the first to get translations ,and actually before posting stuff they argue and discuss about the matter until the majority of the translators decided what to post on the main page
 

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Lolololol databook =extra info that the author wants people to know so yeah

The databook is full of contradictions and hyperbole. The databooks also said that in order for one to use Susano'o, they need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Obito and Kakashi possessed neither, and what happened?

It also says that Totsuka Blade pierces anything but Yata Mirror deflects anything.

It also says that no opponent ever can dodge Madara's Storm Release stream, but it's only usage in the manga is in a panel where Naruto dodges it.
 

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The databook is full of contradictions and hyperbole. The databooks also said that in order for one to use Susano'o, they need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Obito and Kakashi possessed neither, and what happened?

It also says that Totsuka Blade pierces anything but Yata Mirror deflects anything.

It also says that no opponent ever can dodge Madara's Storm Release stream, but it's only usage in the manga is in a panel where Naruto dodges it.

only the 3rd databook showed contradictions others were fine,Most of you people here that complain about it now use the same databook to support your claims on different topic so yeah:coffee:
 

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It's common sense. How is it possible to control 8 gate's chakra flow & vast quantity, when the chakra itself splits apart a whole river? You're not making any sense, and you're using "its speculation" as your only basis for your feeble argument. But I don't care if you agree with it or not because you're only interested in trying to insult me. This isn't even a debate, lol. A debate can only take place when both sides make points backed up by facts, which you, for the umpteenth time failed to do. Resorting to name calling because you know you don't have anything to disprove it is all you can do. Lol
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Genjutsu has effected the Hachibi and Kyuubi users, even with chakra cloaks so fast that Samehada couldn't fully absorb them.
Genjutsu has effected Senjutsu users who have the literal power of nature flowing through their body.

The vastness or power of the chakra has absolutely nothing to do with a genjutsu's ability to work.
 

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Well sadly that's just your opinion friend :),alot of people including me trust wikia ,besides they're always the first to get translations ,and actually before posting stuff they argue and discuss about the matter until the majority of the translators decided what to post on the main page
I could make an account right now claiming to be a japanese translator and fill it with as much bs as I want. That alone is enough to cast doubt on anything from the wiki that can't be directly supported by the manga. Which is why the bold is completely false. No one else is retarded enough to believe statements written by people they don't know that can't be backed up.
 
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