Final (We hope) Countdown. Tobi ID theories and discsussions

Who do you think Tobi is?

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 5 0.6%
  • Sage of Six Paths O.O

    Votes: 14 1.6%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 170 19.6%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 97 11.2%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 177 20.4%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 9 1.0%
  • Shisui Uchiha

    Votes: 17 2.0%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 4 0.5%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 12 1.4%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 18 2.1%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 39 4.5%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 7 0.8%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 21 2.4%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 5 0.6%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 10 1.2%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 44 5.1%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 21 2.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 2 0.2%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 8 0.9%
  • Another Senju

    Votes: 4 0.5%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 10 1.2%
  • Tobi (No one we know)

    Votes: 31 3.6%
  • The ramen guy

    Votes: 71 8.2%
  • Someone other than these.

    Votes: 23 2.7%
  • I am done. No theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 48 5.5%

  • Total voters
    867
Status
Not open for further replies.

DeadManWonderLand

Active member
Elite
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Messages
7,167
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️



THIS IS JUST THE OVERALL
CONCLUSION THAT I CAME TO THE REASON BEHIND THEM ARE IN THE LINK PROVIDED ABOVE.

Madara gained hashis dna durring their battle a fact pointed out in the manga
and developed the rinnegan shortly before his death.some will say that does not explain why he lived so long and on the contrary it does.The members of this clan possessed both incredible longevity and life force.Their longevity can be seen in part through Mito, who lived from long before the founding of Konoha, to well into the term of the Third Hokage's reign. through her longevity and strong life force madaras life was extended due *inheriting the Sage's "body" — life force and physical energy.Having both strands of dna his blood was restored to its original roots and was granted the same longevity and life force and as a result extened his life.Acquiring the senju DNA essentially brought the blood to its purest form which was the uzamaki bloodline.Which led madara to eventually awaken the rinnegan.
As noted beore the uzamaki were also masters of fuininjustu.Now for someone who wants the fox a clan with the abilty to seal the tailed beast were a big threat to tobi/maradaras plan.They were alive before the first world war seeing how hashi has his pic taken with the clan leader.then they magically all die between the first war and third war seems like a coincidence ? I hardly think so.madara then sought out the refugee nagato and placed his eyes in him as storage.Now this theory makes logical sense and its also backed up by the fact that madara states in the manga that he was expecting to be brought back by nagato.Now if he did not live long enough then how did he know of nagato if he died before he was born ?The obvious answer is he did not die.Madara then placed the eyes in Nagato the refugee who was the only person left with the right dna to utilize the eye since he was an UZAMAKI AND HAD THE PURE unadulterated BLOODLINE OF THE SAGE WITHIN HIM.


We know tobi has claimed to be madara and a shell of his former seal.What i am proposing is madara used the rinnegan to create zetsu.The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form.(which is why zetsu is back and white his color scheme is a symbolic representation of yin and yang) THE ZETSU PARTS WERE MERGED WITH OBITOS BODY TO HAVE IT SUSTAINED.I beleive that the body is indeed obito's but the path of madra a bit of his soul resides in him making the shell of his former self explination that much more reasonable.Now where orochimaru fits into this part i have not exactly found out but knowing that orochimaru knew pretty much everything about the rinnegan and the fact he already knows how to extract parts of his soul makes him a pretty good partner for tobi or should i say madara to have.Orochimaru already said he worked with tobi he used his knowledge to help madara contain his soul in obito.why ? Well what do you think orochimaru wants ?The sharingan at first i thought but no his goal was ultimately the rinnegan which is known to make learning justu a peice of cake and what did orochimaru originally want ? to learn all justu and the only way for him to do that was to expand his life.Now what eye do you know makes justu easy to learn and could possibly extend your life ?THE RINNEGAN.
 

natssuu

Active member
Elite
Joined
Jun 18, 2011
Messages
9,133
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Typical Kishi, just a little before Tobi's identity gets revealed he makes us think that he's Obito.

Can't decide between Izuna and Kagami, but if I had to choose it'd be Izuna. There's one thing that caught my eye, I may be thinking too far ahead but remember Madara's sentence ''What my brother died for?'' Normally we would think that Tobi = Izuna theory is not plausible anymore, but the opposite is also possible. Kishi knows how to use past tense, of course now it's certain Izuna died, but there's a huge possibility he was revived by Madara. Rinne tensei, that technique was used to revive him, Madara needed someone trustable comrade in order to accomplish his goal. His brother who even gave his eyes to him was the only option for Madara. Also there's no holes in Tobi = Izuna theory.
 

Omar19992010

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 9, 2011
Messages
3,408
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Tobi is not Obito proof

according to the edo tensei you will be revived in the last moment before your death. Now Look at madara he looks pretty young and it looks like he died pretty soon after his fight with hashirama which means he died ages before obito was even born . In a recent interview with kishimotto when he was asked a question whats tobi and madara's connection to which he answers both ninja know each other very well and there relationship will be revealed as the story progresses . The edo tensei states that you will be revived in the last moment before you death and madara right now is very young so I would he's in his thirtys when he died . so tobi would have be alive when madara was alive and he can't be obito because when madara died obito wasn't even born .
 

DeadManWonderLand

Active member
Elite
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Messages
7,167
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Re: Tobi is not Obito proof

according to the edo tensei you will be revived in the last moment before your death. Now Look at madara he looks pretty young and it looks like he died pretty soon after his fight with hashirama which means he died ages before obito was even born . In a recent interview with kishimotto when he was asked a question whats tobi and madara's connection to which he answers both ninja know each other very well and there relationship will be revealed as the story progresses . The edo tensei states that you will be revived in the last moment before you death and madara right now is very young so I would he's in his thirtys when he died . so tobi would have be alive when madara was alive and he can't be obito because when madara died obito wasn't even born .
Except the fact that madara did not die soon after his fight with hashi.
He gained the power of the senju durring the fight and died shortly after activating the rinnegan not shortly after the fight.Madara knew of nagato
he said his name when he was revived becauses he was the one who planted the eyes in him.How did he know of nagato if he died before nagato was born ?His life was extended because he garnered the power of the senju
a.k.a the life force and physical energy prolonging his death.So he could carry out his plans
Tobi is a path of madara they are the same person so when i say madara it could of been either one regardless who actually did the planting of the eyes it was still madaras plan
and the only way for him to know of nagato was for him to still be alive
 

iSpeak

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Oct 31, 2011
Messages
3,503
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Re: Tobi is not Obito proof

It has never been said anywhere in the Manga that Edo Tensei revives you as you were when you died. I swear, where does everyone get this from?
Logically Edo Tensei would revive you at the time the dna was taken, or else if I took Madara's dna when he was 5 and used it to revive him, how would it know what Madara looked like when he died?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top