Edo Kimimaro Vs Tsunade

[RicardoA]

Well the sealing squad fodder would only get in Tsunade's way or be an easy target for Kimimaro. Tsunade has no way of protecting that fodder when she is busy protecting herself.

@bold: A Katsuyu clone would do the job.
Plus, what exactly in Kimi's arsenal could immediately damage her beyond regeneration? His arsenal involves only piercing attacks.

 

[Zexion~]

Of course she can. Kimimaro is primarly a CQC fighter so they'll both end up landing hits against each other due to both being masters in taijutsu. Kimimaro will end up having to get close to Tsunade to land a hit allowing Tsunade to touch Kimimaro unless you think Kimimaro can attack Tsunade from far. He can but if he has no knowledge on Tsunade's deadliness, he won't start off with long range attacks.

May I ask where you found this manga fact? Because in the manga I'm reading, it is quite the opposite.

Well Kimimaro does have nerve cells so if Tsunade inserts raiton and disrupts them, Kimimaro is screwed.

Well the sealing squad fodder would only get in Tsunade's way or be an easy target for Kimimaro. Tsunade has no way of protecting that fodder when she is busy protecting herself.

Tsunade master of Taijutsu She's featless almost in that category Kimi effortlessly avoided Rock Lee, Lee>Tsunade

 

[Bantos]

Tsunade master of Taijutsu She's featless almost in that category Kimi effortlessly avoided Rock Lee, Lee>Tsunade

Oh give it up. Tsunade would destroy alive Kimimaro. And Lee.
She loses this only because she doesn't have a sealing feat except the seal on her forehead. It is a S-rank seal so I believe she does know some other sealing jutsu as well.
Or then she can stuff Kimimaro in Katsuyu and send Katsuyu back to shikkotsu forest.

And she IS known for her taijutsu as well. "She is still unsurpassed in hand to hand combat." -Jiraiya. I believe he knows what he's talking about. And he even knew of Gai's existence so... yeah. And A's.

 

[Zexion~]

Oh give it up. Tsunade would destroy alive Kimimaro. And Lee.
She loses this only because she doesn't have a sealing feat except the seal on her forehead. It is a S-rank seal so I believe she does know some other sealing jutsu as well.
Or then she can stuff Kimimaro in Katsuyu and send Katsuyu back to shikkotsu forest.

And she IS known for her taijutsu as well. "She is still unsurpassed in hand to hand combat." -Jiraiya. I believe he knows what he's talking about. And he even knew of Gai's existence so... yeah. And A's.

No
Kimi decapitates her after stabing her 50 times through the chest

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TSUNADE.....IS....NOT...STOPPING THIS, Kimi has the much much quicker hand speed, so he's delivering the first hit ..which would be this U_U

 

[TheEvilOne]

Tsunade master of Taijutsu She's featless almost in that category Kimi effortlessly avoided Rock Lee, Lee>Tsunade

The fact she was able to land hits on faster shinobies then her means she is a skilled taijutsu user. Oh, and according to Jiraiya, her taijutsu skills are unsurpassed

 

[Bantos]

No
Kimi decapitates her after stabing her 50 times through the chest

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TSUNADE.....IS....NOT...STOPPING THIS, Kimi has the much much quicker hand speed, so he's delivering the first hit ..which would be this U_U

I'm quite sure Tsunade would be the first one attacking and actually landing a hit. Kimimaro waited for Naruto to attack him and didn't take the initiative. Tsunade in her two battles has attacked first. And she has used great speed in her first attacks, despite everything that you believe.
Tsunade would just ignore those little stabs and just throw the skeleton in a volcano. :| Okay joke. But still. Tsunade has survived much worse than just little stab wounds.

 

[Zexion~]

I'm quite sure Tsunade would be the first one attacking and actually landing a hit. Kimimaro waited for Naruto to attack him and didn't take the initiative. Tsunade in her two battles has attacked first. And she has used great speed in her first attacks, despite everything that you believe.
Tsunade would just ignore those little stabs and just throw the skeleton in a volcano. :| Okay joke. But still. Tsunade has survived much worse than just little stab wounds.

Ignore the stab's ...Do you not see how much there are, she may heal from it but she's not tanking it like they are nothing, he then decapitates her,

Also She is not fast don't know how many times i have to say this shes not touching Kimi first especially

Kimi sat there because he as about to die and needed to get control over his body, U_U

 

[Bantos]

Ignore the stab's ...Do you not see how much there are, she may heal from it but she's not tanking it like they are nothing, he then decapitates her,

Also She is not fast don't know how many times i have to say this shes not touching Kimi first especially

Kimi sat there because he as about to die and needed to get control over his body, U_U

She is fast enough. How many times do I have to say that? She landed hits on Madara. Her reaction speed is good enough to counter his stabs.
He won't decapitate her with a stab. Or with a BONE.

 

[Zexion~]

She is fast enough. How many times do I have to say that? She landed hits on Madara. Her reaction speed is good enough to counter his stabs.
He won't decapitate her with a stab. Or with a BONE.

Only the sharpest bone ..ever which can obviously slice as he swung it like it could in this scan as well

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LOl she jumped down from a cliff to hit Madara..Her movement speed is ass in general compared to Kimi its beyond ass

 

[Icelerate]

I don't understand why you just repeated the same exact thing you said earlier without addressing the primary argument I put on the table.

Kimimaro removed his spine, which has tons of the most important nerves necessary for the human body to operate attached to it. Why exactly would her disruption technique affect his nerves when he has shown the ability to operate without the most important nerves in his body whatsoever?

You cannot keep pretending that Kimimaro's biology is comparable to anybody else's. The man punctures his own vital organs when he extrudes his bones (when he does so in the chest area, his heart and lungs are all probable targets) and pulls out his spine, which is probably the most important part of the central nervous system after the brain itself.

Despite all that, he continues to fight as if nothing had happened (not to mention he was just attached to a life support machine a few minutes ago). Yet you still think he will be affected by a sub-par nerve scrambling technique when he has shown the ability to move his body without any nerves whatsoever? That is extremely unsubstantiated.

If you want, I'll make a thread on this subject to see what others have to say. You might actually be right.

@bold: A Katsuyu clone would do the job.
Plus, what exactly in Kimi's arsenal could immediately damage her beyond regeneration? His arsenal involves only piercing attacks.

Small piercing attacks are enough to kill the fodder even if he is hiding inside the Katsuyu clone.

Tsunade master of Taijutsu She's featless almost in that category Kimi effortlessly avoided Rock Lee, Lee>Tsunade

Part one Lee isn't above Tsunade in any shape or form with the exception of speed. Being a bit slower doesn't mean you can't land a hit or else Hidan would have gotten stomped by Asuma in the first 10 seconds of the fight. Tsunade managed to land a hit on Shizune who has 4.0 in speed whereas Tsunade only had a 3.5.

Even still, an injured pre timeskip Lee managed to avoid Kimimaro fairly easily, what makes you think current Tsunade does not stomp these two in taijutsu? Even Madara has better taijutsu skills yet he chose to block Tsunade's attacks with susanoo.

 

[Bantos]

Only the sharpest bone ..ever which can obviously slice as he swung it like it could in this scan as well

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LOl she jumped down from a cliff to hit Madara..Her movement speed is ass in general compared to Kimi its beyond ass

Wut. She jumped UP to hit Madara. There had to be some serious speed in that movement since Madara could only activate Susanoo less than a second before Tsunade had closed the distance.

And Madara was already higher than any cliff in the battlefield when Tsunade kicked his susanoo to pieces. And we have no way of knowing if she actually jumped down when she landed the legit hit and destroyed him. I believe there was a small taijutsu quarrel before that. But that's just me.
Kimimaro has one point more in speed.

 

[Zexion~]

If you want, I'll make a thread on this subject to see what others have to say. You might actually be right.

Small piercing attacks are enough to kill the fodder even if he is hiding inside the Katsuyu clone.

Part one Lee isn't above Tsunade in any shape or form with the exception of speed. Being a bit slower doesn't mean you can't land a hit or else Hidan would have gotten stomped by Asuma in the first 10 seconds of the fight. Tsunade managed to land a hit on Shizune who has 4.0 in speed whereas Tsunade only had a 3.5.

Even still, an injured pre timeskip Lee managed to avoid Kimimaro fairly easily, what makes you think current Tsunade does not stomp these two in taijutsu? Even Madara has better taijutsu skills yet he chose to block Tsunade's attacks with susanoo.

First off Hidan argument does not count as he was using his long ranged scythe to keep Asuma at bay, along with attacking his teammates, U_U His speed is also underrated

Exactly Lee >Tsunade in speed, Shizune was not even expecting the hit i don't believe, and was standing right next to her.

it was a drunken lee that avoided those attacks, and Drunken Lee>Tsunade in taijutsu beyond doubt

Why Would Madara have anything to do with this? He had no clue on Tsunade's abilities, he probably saw the strength she possesed and made a false assuption that she was strong on taijutsu, when she clearly is not , Unless you think She is agile and quick enough to avoid Clematis Dance she's losing this fight

@Bantos- A cliff going down smart one, im not even reading the rest of your post

 

[Icelerate]

First off Hidan argument does not count as he was using his long ranged scythe to keep Asuma at bay, along with attacking his teammates, U_U His speed is also underrated

Exactly Lee >Tsunade in speed, Shizune was not even expecting the hit i don't believe, and was standing right next to her.

it was a drunken lee that avoided those attacks, and Drunken Lee>Tsunade in taijutsu beyond doubt

Why Would Madara have anything to do with this? He had no clue on Tsunade's abilities, he probably saw the strength she possesed and made a false assuption that she was strong on taijutsu, when she clearly is not , Unless you think She is agile and quick enough to avoid Clematis Dance she's losing this fight

@Bantos- A cliff going down smart one, im not even reading the rest of your post

Unlike most others, Tsunade uses all her body parts for taijutsu. She can use kicks as well as punches so her taijutsu is more unpredictable than you think. While Kimimaro is busy facing her in hand to hand combat, Tsunade could attack Kimimaro's legs with a heavenly kick of pain. Kimimaro won't expect it much like Gaara's sand arms grabbing him from beneath him. Majority of Kimimaro's attacks would be negated with regeneration whereas edo tensei regeneration does take time and while it is happening, Kimimaro won't be able to do anything allowing Tsunade to summon Katsuyu and send Kimimaro wherever the slug is from. BFR GG.

 

[Zexion~]

Unlike most others, Tsunade uses all her body parts for taijutsu. She can use kicks as well as punches so her taijutsu is more unpredictable than you think. While Kimimaro is busy facing her in hand to hand combat, Tsunade could attack Kimimaro's legs with a heavenly kick of pain. Kimimaro won't expect it much like Gaara's sand arms grabbing him from beneath him. Majority of Kimimaro's attacks would be negated with regeneration whereas edo tensei regeneration does take time and while it is happening, Kimimaro won't be able to do anything allowing Tsunade to summon Katsuyu and send Kimimaro wherever the slug is from. BFR GG.

Except that won't work Kimi has already shown he can react to attacks from the legs in the middle of conbat just fine

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again with a much faster Lee he could even jump and slice her head off at the same time really, and show me where Byakugo's regenerating from all those holes in an instant, not that it matters an instant is all he needs to take her head clean off ..

 

[Black Wolf]

If you want, I'll make a thread on this subject to see what others have to say. You might actually be right.

Feel free too, but I don't believe in public consensus unless logical arguments are put on the table, which I have seen very little of on this forum. From my short experience here, the majority of people are unwilling to change their opinion and will cling on to their favorite character even when relying on unsubstantiated garbage as support for their nigh nonexistent argument.

Tsunade managed to land a hit on Shizune who has 4.0 in speed whereas Tsunade only had a 3.5.

So pot-shotting an unsuspecting ally who was only standing at arm's length away to begin with in a hospital now qualifies as a legitimate speed feat? I guess we have low standards for what we define as speed feats when grasping for straws.

Even still, an injured pre timeskip Lee managed to avoid Kimimaro fairly easily.

Yeah, and Kimimaro was perfectly healthy, right? It's not like his body was moving on will-power alone or anything like that. It's not as if Kabuto stated Kimimaro should not possess the ability to move at all, let alone traverse an insane distance and engage in a gauntlet battle. It's not like he literally just unplugged himself from a life support system.

Furthermore, drunken Lee has the among the most unpredictable fighting styles, up there with the likes of Kimimaro and Killer Bee's seven sword style himself. Lee himself probably had no idea what his next attack would be when he was drunk.

what makes you think current Tsunade does not stomp these two in taijutsu?

Kimimaro is faster than Tsunade and just as skilled in Taijutsu (score wise). Feats wise, his Taijutsu is far more impressive. Rather than a straight-forward, linear fighting style, he has displayed unmatched finesse and unpredictability in his battles against the rookies and also showed proficiency in kenjutsu as well.

I've said it before, and I'll restate it again:

Kimimaro is essentially a better version of Tsunade, overall (combat-wise). While he lacks her physical power, he can inflict comparable damage with his bone weapons, which are sharp enough to resist samurai chakra flow - the same samurai chakra flow that matched Sasuke's Chidorigatana. He is faster, possesses comparable regeneration capabilities, and is far more durable than she is. He is not restricted to close range attacks thanks to bone bullets and bone forest. His Taijutsu style, rather than being linear, is unpredictable. He has better reach in CQC as well thanks to implementing Kenjutsu into his fighting style.

Even Madara has better taijutsu skills yet he chose to block Tsunade's attacks with susanoo.

Because putting down Susano'o when there are four other Kage standing by with lethal attacks, including acid, lava, dust release, electricity, and sand tidal waves is not a smart idea if he wants to avoid getting sealed.

 

[Bantos]

Except that won't work Kimi has already shown he can react to attacks from the legs in the middle of conbat just fine

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again with a much faster Lee he could even jump and slice her head off at the same time really, and show me where Byakugo's regenerating from all those holes in an instant, not that it matters an instant is all he needs to take her head clean off ..

It took a second to heal a big hole in her abdomen. And her spine. Such tiny stab wounds are healed in an instant.
And stop being so disrespectful towards other people. I hope you're a teen. Then there is some explanation. :|

Yeah, and Kimimaro was perfectly healthy, right? It's not like his body was moving on will-power alone or anything like that. It's not as if Kabuto stated Kimimaro should not possess the ability to move at all, let alone traverse an insane distance and engage in a gauntlet battle.

The only reason Kimimaro kept fighting for that long WAS that he was using his willpower alone to move. He has neverending stamina until the disease took him. Aids from Itachi probably.

 

[Zexion~]

It took a second to heal a big hole in her abdomen. And her spine. Such tiny stab wounds are healed in an instant.
And stop being so disrespectful towards other people. I hope you're a teen. Then there is some explanation. :|



The only reason Kimimaro kept fighting for that long WAS that he was using his willpower alone to move. He has neverending stamina until the disease took him. Aids from Itachi probably.

How was i disrespectful in that post ? lmao

I am in fact a teen if that measn anything

 

[Black Wolf]

The only reason Kimimaro kept fighting for that long WAS that he was using his willpower alone to move. He has neverending stamina until the disease took him. Aids from Itachi probably.

I don't think you caught my sarcasm.

Icelerate stated that Lee was injured. I [jokingly] pointed out that Kimimaro was more than injured - he was an intensive care patient hooked up to life support that was not supposed to be able to move, let alone fight a gauntlet battle. Thus making Lee's injuries pale in comparison.

 

[Bantos]

How was i disrespectful in that post ? lmao

I am in fact a teen if that measn anything

I was referring to the earlier post. Well then I can understand it a bit.

I don't think you caught my sarcasm.

I thought you meant that he would have been stronger if he were perfectly healthy. I believe that is not the case.

 

[Black Wolf]

I thought you meant that he would have been stronger if he were perfectly healthy. I believe that is not the case.

Of course he would have been stronger.

I'm applying the same logic most people here use when assuming current Tsunade would not get man-handled by Part I Kabuto because she is no longer "rusty." If you are going to afford Tsunade the benefit of the doubt, you'd have to extend Kimimaro the same courtesy, especially given you have much more reason to do so. Being "rusty" doesn't quite measure up to being an intensive care patient hooked up to a life support machine.