Edo Kimimaro Vs Tsunade

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There are two things wrong with this statement:

(1) Ino's bones are not extruded from her body, thus Katsuyu is not in contact with the sharpness of Ino's bones but rather the surface of Ino's body. Kimimaro can extrude his bones from his body, ensuring that Katsuyu's innards get skewered.

(2) Even if Ino's bones were to contact Katsuyu's innards, they are not in any way comparable to bones that can cut through a chakra flow enhanced sword.



That does not grant her immunity to piercing attacks. The Hachibi tanked his own Bijuudama, yet his tentacles were getting chopped off by shuriken. Piercing attacks and physical attacks are in no way comparable.

Katsuyu's resistance to blunt attacks is excellent, given her ability to shield villagers from Shinra Tensei. It does not mean that she is equally capable of being carved up by cutting or piercing attacks, including Susano'o blades, Kimimaro's bones, Chidori, Raikiri, or finger nukite. They are two completely different types of attacks.



He would still be disabled for a noticeable interval. Even minor spine damage can result in paralysis, and if Kimimaro's body would seize to function during that short interval because it is impossible to move without a spine.

You're clinging on to the notion that Kimimaro will be affected by nerve scrambling despite overwhelming evidence showing otherwise. I'm not just talking about spine removal, either - the man extrudes bones, casually puncturing vitals that most likely include the lungs and heart, without any physical detriments that can be observed. Despite all this, you still think a petty nerve scrambling technique that we have never seen again will be super effective against him?

If his spine is healing while he is simultaneously removing it, you are still suggesting that Kimimaro's regeneration has nigh instant speed, which would make it impossible to actually hurt him because he would recover from any damage he sustains before his opponent can actually do anything about it.
Does Tsunade have a different body structure also? I mean her spine was destroyed a couple of times but she still just kept going.
I still don't see any proof on how ranshinsho wouldn't work since he still has nerves left. And his brain. No one ever said it was super effective against him. :D But it's effective.
I disagree with you about Katsuyu. If someone stabbed her the sword would just go trough her if she wanted so.

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Does Tsunade have a different body structure also? I mean her spine was destroyed a couple of times but she still just kept going.
When were we ever talking about Tsunade's body structure? You are throwing an already tedious exchange further off course. And given Tsunade has shown herself to be susceptible to attacks, such as Kabutos, that damage her muscles, I see no evidence supporting her having a unique body structure.

The one time her spine might have been destroyed was when Madara stabbed her with Susano'o sword from underground, but given she never moved her legs during the time the sword pierced her, we have no reason to believe she was not adversely affected by it.

I still don't see any proof on how ranshinsho wouldn't work since he still has nerves left.
Completely baseless.

The spine attaches directly to the brain. Kimimaro casually took it out, with no negative affects. The crucial nerve bundles attached to the spine would mean Kimimaro should drop to the ground and be left paralyzed upon removing it, but he was still able to stand and move his legs as if nothing had happened. The fact that Kimimaro shows no adverse side effects from lacking crucial nerve bundles supports the notion that a technique that attacks the nerves will have little to no effect on him.

I disagree with you about Katsuyu. If someone stabbed her the sword would just go trough her if she wanted so.
An absolutely baseless statement.

You are openly failing to acknowledge that piercing attacks and physical attacks are not the same. You are stating that because Katsuyu tanked a physical and blunt attack indicates that she can tank a piercing attack, which is completely nonsensical.

You are also suggesting that Katsuyu is some sort of invincible abomination. If this were the case, I'd think Tsunade would have summoned this allegedly immortal slug when she and four other Kage were getting annihilated by Madara time and time again. She would have been an excellent meatshield because according to you, Madara has nothing in his arsenal that can even begin to defeat this godly creature - she is a deity within the Narutoverse, second only to Rikudo himself.

It's also hilarious that you're entertaining the notion that Tsunade will summon Katsuyu against Kimimaro to begin with when she failed to do so against Madara. Katsuyu is clearly a support summon, not a combat summon. If she were effective in battle, she would have been used in combat rather than just for healing purpsoses.
 
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When were we ever talking about Tsunade's body structure? You are throwing an already tedious exchange further off course. And given Tsunade has shown herself to be susceptible to attacks, such as Kabutos, that damage her muscles, I see no evidence supporting



Completely baseless.

The spine attaches directly to the brain. Kimimaro casually took it out, with no negative affects. The crucial nerve bundles attached to the spine would mean Kimimaro should drop to the ground and be left paralyzed upon removing it, but he was still able to stand and move his legs as if nothing had happened. The fact that Kimimaro shows no adverse side effects from lacking crucial nerve bundles supports the notion that a technique that attacks the nerves will have little to no effect on him.



An absolutely baseless statement.

You are openly failing to acknowledge that piercing attacks and physical attacks are the same. You are stating that because Katsuyu tanked a physical and blunt attack indicates that she can tank a piercing attack, which is completely nonsensical.

You are also suggesting that Katsuyu is some sort of invincible abomination. If this was the case, I'd think Tsunade would have summoned her when she and four other Kage were getting annihilated by Madara time and time again. She would have been an excellent meatshield because according to you, Madara has nothing in his arsenal to defeat Katsuyu.

It's also hilarious that you're entertaining the notion that Tsunade will summon Katsuyu against Kimimaro to begin with when she failed to do so against Madara. Katsuyu is clearly a support summon, not a combat summon. If she were effective in battle, she would have been used in combat rather than just for healing purpsoses.
The reason I brought up Tsunade's destroyed spine movement is that it seems to be a quite normal thing in Narutoverse. I'm not doing this anymore. We disagree about this match up.
 

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Tsunade never moved her legs following the potential destruction of her spine against Madara's Susano'o, so the point was moot to begin with. She moved her arms to stab Susano'o, then got hurled into rocks. By the time she emerged from the rubble, the manga emphasized that her healing was complete (the stab wound was gone, barring a surface level laceration).
 
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Tsunade never moved her legs following the potential destruction of her spine against Madara's Susano'o, so the point was moot to begin with. She moved her arms to stab Susano'o, then got hurled into rocks. By the time she emerged from the rubble, the manga emphasized that her healing was complete (the stab wound was gone, barring a surface level laceration).
Really? She was able to JUMP with her broken spine.

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False. The swords protrude through the sides of her torso, none penetrate her back, or where the spine is located - her back is untouched. .
 

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False. The swords protrude through the sides of her torso, none penetrate her back, or where the spine is located - her back is untouched. .
Her spine was destroyed by the first attack Madara made against Tsunade. The time Tsunade used susanoo sword to hit Madara.
 

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Her spine was destroyed by the first attack Madara made against Tsunade. The time Tsunade used susanoo sword to hit Madara.
And I already replied to you about that on the previous page.

Tsunade never moved her legs following the potential destruction of her spine against Madara's Susano'o, so the point was moot to begin with. She moved her arms to stab Susano'o, then got hurled into rocks. By the time she emerged from the rubble, the manga emphasized that her healing was complete (the stab wound was gone, barring a surface level laceration).
 

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And I already replied to you about that on the previous page.
I know. :D But her spine WAS destroyed. Any kind of movement would be impossible in reality in that situation. I mean she punched the Susanoo sword broken and then in the same motion tried to slash dat Susanoo.
 

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I know. :D But her spine WAS destroyed. Any kind of movement would be impossible in reality in that situation. I mean she punched the Susanoo sword broken and then in the same motion tried to slash dat Susanoo.
Not really. The controls leg movements, which is exactly where Tsunade was stabbed.
 

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Shit, someone should learn some basic biology.
Tsunade's spine was clearly untouched in that scan - the practically birds-eye view that I provided you with proves that. The swords are undeniably protruding from her sides, and mocking my intelligence doesn't change that.

Unless, of course, you're implying that Tsunade's spine is located on the sides of her body, in which case I'd like you to further enlighten us with your brilliance.
 
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Tsunade's spine was clearly untouched in that scan - the practically birds-eye view that I provided you with proves that. The swords are undeniably protruding from her sides, and mocking my intelligence doesn't change that.

Unless, of course, you're implying that Tsunade's spine is located on the sides of her body, in which case I'd like you to further enlighten us with your brilliance.
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Why would Gaara pull them out? That was just the bone forcing its way through the sand.
Why do they move slowly in The Matrix? It looks cool.
It was proven pages after that Gaara's sand was stronger in defence than Kimi's bones were in attack when both used two of their .
Those bullets never came close to penetrate his sand.
We shouldn't even be discussing this, he's the clear winner. I only mentioned a fodder from the sealing squad because the match up wasn't balanced.
 

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It was proven pages after that Gaara's sand was stronger in defence than Kimi's bones were in attack when both used two of their .
Actually, Gaara outright stated he hardened the sand with the . It isn't too far fetched to assume Gaara's normal sand can be pushed by Kimimaro's bones. The finger bullets happened earlier on in the fight, and I'd think Gaara didn't start gathering too many minerals at that point yet.
 
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