Edo Kimimaro Vs Tsunade

[TheEvilOne]

The third databook gives her a 3.5. That may not be slow in general, but its slow if you want to compare her to other Kage level fighters. Literally every single Kage level fighter has at least a 4 in speed, if not higher.

Sasuke? 4.5 Kakuzu? 4 Kisame? 4 Orochimaru? 4.5 Kakashi? 4.5 Gai? 5 Kimimaro? 4.5 Itachi? 5

Hell, most notable Jonin level fighters also have at least a 4.

Zabuza? 4 Asuma? 4.5 Part II Neji? 4.5 Part II Lee? 4.5.

So yeah, relatively speaking, she is slow. She is slower than anybody you will be matching her up against in this forum, unless you plan on pitting her against old Hiruzen, Hidan, Part I Kabuto, who are the only other semi-notable fighters with below a 4 in speed.

But this proves nothing. Tsunade has better speed feats then most of the guys you mentioned.
Not to mention the fact that the speed isn't the only factor which determines the outcome of a battle.

 

[Black Wolf]

But this proves nothing. Tsunade better speed feats then most of the guys you mentioned.

She has better speed feats than Itachi, Sasuke, Gai, Kakashi, Kisame, and Kimimaro? No. Even Part I Lee demonstrated better speed than her given Kakashi had to resort to the Sharingan to follow his movements.

Not to mention half the guys I mentioned (namely the rookies like Kiba and Neji) never even had a proper opportunity to demonstrate their speed to begin with. It doesn't change the fact that the author wrote all the DB stats, and the score they were given was assigned by Kishimoto himself. The same person who gave Part II Neji a 4.5 in speed is the same person who gave Tsunade a 3.5.

Not to mention the fact that the speed isn't the only factor which determines the outcome of a battle.

Nobody said otherwise. If speed were the only factor, Tsunade would be mere Jonin level. Her regeneration is her saving grace, thus why she can remain on the precipice of the Kage tier despite having below average speed.

 

[Zexion~]

But this proves nothing. Tsunade has better speed feats then most of the guys you mentioned.
Not to mention the fact that the speed isn't the only factor which determines the outcome of a battle.

Omg im dead better speed feats! Don't make me laugh she has legit 0 ..don't give me that madara bullshit because she clearly jumped

 

[Prince Charles]

lmao Im about to get turnt up on some real shit. @theEvilOne, you on that good kush and alcohol or what?

 

[Icelerate]

Anyway since Kimimaro is an edo, he has what it takes to win but he'll need to have full knowledge on who Tsunade is and the true extent of her abilities to go all out. If this is manga knowledge, Kimimaro will most likely engage in CQC with Tsunade but then when he gets attacked by Tsunade, he'll end up regenerating. While regenerating, Tsunade can mess up his nervous system, summon Katsuyu, trap Kimimaro inside it and then unsummon it back to where Katsuyu came from. Tsunade emerges victorious as Kimimaro is no longer on the battlefield.

On the other hand, if Kimimaro does have knowledge on Tsunade's hype and feats, he can keep his distance and use his most powerful attacks in his arsenal, which also happen to be long ranged allowing him to keep his distance from Tsunade. Due to having infinite chakra, Kimimaro can simply spam Sawarbi no mae, impaling Tsunade from underneath her and also restricting her movements. Then Kimimaro can also proceed to spam bone bullets to further wear Tsunade out. Eventually Tsunade will run out of chakra and then Kimimaro can finish her off. Kimimaro won't run out of chakra because he is an edo tensei. If Tsunade decides to summon Katsuyu, it will be useless because its acid can be blocked with the bones sprouting from the ground or Kimimaro can evade the acid by fusing with whatever bone in the bone forest he wants to.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Omg im dead better speed feats! Don't make me laugh she has legit 0 ..don't give me that madara bullshit because she clearly jumped

Like I said, from now one I'll ignore you. You clearly hate her = you underrate her.

 

[Zexion~]

Like I said, from now one I'll ignore you. You clearly hate her = you underrate her.

Lmao exactly she has none my man, nah people hype her, she may have strong ass defense via regeneration but her offense is weak compared to every other Kage level shinobi

Also she's not even in my top 3 hated ...

 

[Icelerate]

Unbalanced match. No fuinjutsu = defeat against any edo.
Assuming she has a way to seal him (a random fodder from a sealing squad), she wins.

Kimimaro easily kills that sealing squad fodder.

 

[Zexion~]

Kimimaro easily kills that sealing squad fodder.

Woah .. why do you assume Tsunade could even touch Kimimaro my man .. i thought you would know she can't

 

[Black Wolf]

While regenerating, Tsunade can mess up his nervous system

The man who can casually pull out his spine, which connects directly to the brain and is a vital part of the central nervous system, clearly does not have the same biological structure as anybody else in the manga. Thus it is highly doubtful the technique will affect him at all, let alone anywhere near the manner in which it affected Kabuto's body.

 

[Prince Charles]

Tsunade doesnt have shit on Kimi alive or edo. Manga fact.

 

[Zexion~]

The man who can casually pull out his spine, which connects directly to the brain and is a vital part of the central nervous system, clearly does not have the same biological structure as anybody else in the manga. Thus it is highly doubtful the technique will affect him at all, let alone anywhere near the manner in which it affected Kabuto's body.

I like this newbie =D

 

[RicardoA]

Lmao exactly she has none my man, nah people hype her, she may have strong ass defense via regeneration but her offense is weak compared to every other Kage level shinobi

Also she's not even in my top 3 hated ...

Kimimaro easily kills that sealing squad fodder.

@boldZex: now i'm curious about that top 3 hated :heh:

@Ice: assuming she would let him do that. Anyway, the op didn't include a squad fodder, so she dies.

 

[Headmaster]

Tsunade losses.
The only chance she haves against him, is if katsuyu is able to trap him in a clone.

 

[Zexion~]

@boldZex: now i'm curious about that top 3 hated :heh:

@Ice: assuming she would let him do that. Anyway, the op didn't include a squad fodder, so she dies.

1.Sasuke
2.Minato
3.Madara

 

[RicardoA]

1.Sasuke
2.Minato
3.Madara

Ty sir.
Very interesting fellow Sasuke hater.

 

[Zexion~]

Ty sir.
Very interesting fellow Sasuke hater.

LOl minato may be taking the top spot soon tho

 

[Icelerate]

Woah .. why do you assume Tsunade could even touch Kimimaro my man .. i thought you would know she can't

Of course she can. Kimimaro is primarly a CQC fighter so they'll both end up landing hits against each other due to both being masters in taijutsu. Kimimaro will end up having to get close to Tsunade to land a hit allowing Tsunade to touch Kimimaro unless you think Kimimaro can attack Tsunade from far. He can but if he has no knowledge on Tsunade's deadliness, he won't start off with long range attacks.

Tsunade doesnt have shit on Kimi alive or edo. Manga fact.

May I ask where you found this manga fact? Because in the manga I'm reading, it is quite the opposite.

The man who can casually pull out his spine, which connects directly to the brain and is a vital part of the central nervous system, clearly does not have the same biological structure as anybody else in the manga. Thus it is highly doubtful the technique will affect him at all, let alone anywhere near the manner in which it affected Kabuto's body.

Well Kimimaro does have nerve cells so if Tsunade inserts raiton and disrupts them, Kimimaro is screwed.

@boldZex: now i'm curious about that top 3 hated :heh:

@Ice: assuming she would let him do that. Anyway, the op didn't include a squad fodder, so she dies.

Well the sealing squad fodder would only get in Tsunade's way or be an easy target for Kimimaro. Tsunade has no way of protecting that fodder when she is busy protecting herself.

 

[Black Wolf]

I don't understand why you just repeated the same exact thing you said earlier without addressing the primary argument I put on the table.

Kimimaro removed his spine, which has tons of the most important nerves necessary for the human body to operate attached to it. Why exactly would her disruption technique affect his nerves when he has shown the ability to operate without the most important nerves in his body whatsoever?

You cannot keep pretending that Kimimaro's biology is comparable to anybody else's. The man punctures his own vital organs when he extrudes his bones (when he does so in the chest area, his heart and lungs are all probable targets) and pulls out his spine, which is probably the most important part of the central nervous system after the brain itself.

Despite all that, he continues to fight as if nothing had happened (not to mention he was just attached to a life support machine a few minutes ago). Yet you still think he will be affected by a sub-par nerve scrambling technique when he has shown the ability to move his body without any nerves whatsoever? That is extremely unsubstantiated.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Tsunade doesn't have sealing jutsu and even if she had it wouldn't change the fact that Kimi is just too fast for her