Edo Hashirama underrated greatly.

[Dark Artist]

Yet he already has mastery over preta path & he can use outer path in conjunction with susanoo. Madara studied the uchiha tablet & taught obito everything he knows about the rinnegan. Madara has a vast amount of knowledge on the rinnegan because he taught obito who just recently got it & already became a better outer path user than nagato, proving that knowledge > experience in this case.

i agree with you bro

the Op himself Admitted that there is No counter for Rinnegan

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LoL. What perspective? We got the same perspective here, the frontal view, no matter the distance the proportion of madara to the gem doesnt change. Dont talk me no jutsu here.

You saying the perspective puts you on Madara Rules's level. He thinks the meteor from Madara = 20 mountains. he also doesn't understand the difference in perspective. Do you?

 

[Dark Artist]

garbage thread.

mokuton is KKG which you cannot copy. so madara didn't copy them, he learned them when he obtained mokuton.

rinnegan is the strongest dojutsu which means > EMS that turned hashirama into a beating shit. rinnegan would make it worse.

last but not least madara has stated to be perfect with no weakness, so madara > anyone including hashirama.

totally agree bro
logical comment

 

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totally agree bro
logical comment

You just said Madara Rules's post was logical... GG:|

 

[AlphaScythian]

Size never equals durability. Ever. The only one not using logic is you.
-Does Choji's Skin get more durable when he gets larger? No, it doesn't.
Durability has nothing to do with size, it has to do with what the material is made of and how thick it is.

Choji was literally getting stretched as i mention, Bigger susanoo is made by adding more chakra. So it gets to be stronger by default. The durability remain the same but the bigger size implies more of same durability thus bigger susanno will be more resistant to the damage.

Which give the Bijuu Dama cutting power on top of explosive power.
12 Bijuu Dama along with PS blades in them are far superior to Madara swinging his blade with PS. Clear if you read the manga.

It gave the cutting power along the blades the slash wasnt used there.

PS is Mountain Sized at best.

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Buddha is bigger.

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That's only counting the main body.

The main body of budda is mountain sized aswell, its the bag of 1000 hands that is so massive. You take that kyuubi b4 it turn it vertical and it already makes the half of budda's main body in height. Due to the gem scale i already showed you PS will be at least 3 times bigger and will match the main body easily.

-Says its not possible.
-Though it happened in the manga.

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Buddha barrages PS with Chojo Kebutsu and breaks it open. Again.

Goddamn. Hashi has caught simple sword not the slash. The slash has happened in next panels and hashi had no counter. Think of it as special ability, sort of like samurais use.

 

[Xāvî1]

hashirama will beat madara because madara is just too arrogant of his powers

 

[LegendaryAce]

Why do i have a feeling hashirama and tobirama will get a power boost soon in the manga? i mean they are about 80% or something right now right? if i remember correctly and lets not forget hashirama might still have stuff up his sleeve aswell ...he must have done something after beating madara and might have reached a higher level ..because i doubt he died anywere near that fight ...so lets wait and see what happens in the manga because they might fight/or end up partnering up to take obito down

 

[AlphaScythian]

You saying the perspective puts you on Madara Rules's level. He thinks the meteor from Madara = 20 mountains. he also doesn't understand the difference in perspective. Do you?

Do you understand what perspective is? From frontal view is there a perspective that can make a square turn into rectangle? I dont speak for madara rules do i?

 

[KidGamer65]

Choji was literally getting stretched as i mention, Bigger susanoo is made by adding more chakra. So it gets to be stronger by default. The durability remain the same but the bigger size implies more of same durability thus bigger susanno will be more resistant to the damage.

Again. By adding more chakra he adds more armor, he doesn't increase its durability. Size=/= Durability. Buddha will still break it open the same way it did at VoTE as its durability did not change.

It gave the cutting power along the blades the slash wasnt used there.

I just said this.

The main body of budda is mountain sized aswell, its the bag of 1000 hands that is so massive. You take that kyuubi b4 it turn it vertical and it already makes the half of budda's main body in height. Due to the gem scale i already showed you PS will be at least 3 times bigger and will match the main body easily.

Ok then, it matches the main body. It won't change the outcome of it getting broken open. Again.

]Goddamn. Hashi has caught simple sword not the slash. The slash has happened in next panels and hashi had no counter. Think of it as special ability, sort of like samurais use.

That's what I claimed to begin with. That he caught the sword, not the slash. To create the shockwave he needs to successfully swing the blade. Something he can't do if Buddha catches it.

 

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Do you understand what perspective is? From frontal view is there a perspective that can make a square turn into rectangle? I dont speak for madara rules do i?

Mate, perspective changes the size of things. Thin k about the son, even if you look at the son from a frontal view from the earth, it looks small as hell. That's why you can put your hand up and block it. Though, if you get extremely close to it, putting your hand in front of it wont block it out. That's what your scans werel ike. One was up close, right in front of hashi. The other was far away, where you can see the entirety of the susanoo. I said you are sounding like Madara Rules.</p>
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[AlphaScythian]

Again. By adding more chakra he adds more armor, he doesn't increase its durability. Size=/= Durability. Buddha will still break it open the same way it did at VoTE as its durability did not change.

No no no and no geez. You get a tank armor plate, it has X durability value, then you get the same X value durability plate but freaking bigger and thicker. Dont ****ing tell that it will succumb to same damage the 1st plate does.

Ok then, it matches the main body. It won't change the outcome of it getting broken open. Again.

Or maybe it will as combined durability will be 3Xfold due to bigger size.

That's what I claimed to begin with. That he caught the sword, not the slash. To create the shockwave he needs to successfully swing the blade. Something he can't do if Buddha catches it.

To catch a sword budda already needs to be at arms lenght range. In fact budda is weak vs ranged attacks it has only beat PS+kyuubi cuz kishi made madara rush into its fists.

 

[AlphaScythian]

@Inanimated But madara and the gem are at the same distance from the observer thus scale relation to gem remain unchanged no matter the distance. You owe me 50$ now for the lesson.

 

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@Inanimated But madara and the gem are at the same distance from the observer thus scale relation to gem remain unchanged no matter the distance. You owe me 50$ now for the lesson.

You actually think the gems are the same size... SMH, no use debating you then. They clearly aren't, but I'm not going to argue with someone who refutes manga fact.

 

[KidGamer65]

No no no and no geez. You get a tank armor plate, it has X durability value, then you get the same X value durability plate but freaking bigger and thicker. Dont ****ing tell that it will succumb to same damage the 1st plate does.

Now we are pulling things out of our arse I see? All Madara did to PS was make it smaller to fit Kurama. The armor didn't change in thickness or durability at all. Its not the same as layering tank armor plates on top of each other.

PS durability has never changed in this manga.

Or maybe it will as combined durability will be 3Xfold due to bigger size.

How many times am I going to have to tell you that size=/=durability? Making something bigger doesn't increase its durability. Get that through your head.

To catch a sword budda already needs to be at arms lenght range. In fact budda is weak vs ranged attacks it has only beat PS+kyuubi cuz kishi made madara rush into its fists.

Buddha was able to bash PS Kyuubi in from the distance in the scan I posted. As PS is larger and taller by itself, Buddha will still reach it.

Not to mention Buddha has shown the ability to move so it can just get in range.

@bold: This again? Madara lost. Its as simple as that.

 

[AlphaScythian]

You actually think the gems are the same size... SMH, no use debating you then. They clearly aren't, but I'm not going to argue with someone who refutes manga fact.

Manga fact is simple. In kurama case the gem is much smaller then in PS. Therefore pure PS is bigger then kurama covered in PS armor.

 

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Manga fact is simple. In kurama case the gem is much smaller then in PS. Therefore pure PS is bigger then kurama covered in PS armor.

You just said the gems were the same size though... :|

 

[Transcendence]

I agree. Many people assert the claims of Madara because of the overlapping power-ups but fail to address things that will lead to his downfall.

I could make a large post that would add more to your OP but I'm lazy right now. It'll be done in an hour.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Now we are pulling things out of our arse I see? All Madara did to PS was make it smaller to fit Kurama. The armor didn't change in thickness or durability at all. Its not the same as layering tank armor plates on top of each other.
PS durability has never changed in this manga.

Durability as a value doesnt change but obviously a bigger object of the same durability value will take more punishment, thus get more durable. And as susanoo grows the thickness of ribs, bones, swords, everything gets bigger.

How many times am I going to have to tell you that size=/=durability? Making something bigger doesn't increase its durability. Get that through your head.

For the last time, the bigger of the same has bigger total durability.

Buddha was able to bash PS Kyuubi in from the distance in the scan I posted. As PS is larger and taller by itself, Buddha will still reach it.
Not to mention Buddha has shown the ability to move so it can just get in range.

By the time budda bashed madara he had launched 20 TBBs and made 20 new swords. Seeing how budda carries huge arms on its back, my bet is on susanoo in foot speed, in case its needs to keep its distance.

@bold: This again? Madara lost. Its as simple as that.

Survived, outlived and got the power up as well as dream on the way, hashi merely died.

 

[AlphaScythian]

You just said the gems were the same size though... :|

I said madara in relation to gem remains the same at any distance to the viewer. FFS