Do you think Kishi avoided a battle between Itachi and Madara?

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Like, did he make them not meet each other so that it wouldn't be weird? I think Madara would win but seeing him defeat Itachi would be kinda sad, if Madara doens't win then that's weird too.
In what situation would they have met?

You gotta take into account their missions as edo.


I'm pretty sure Nagato and Itachi's job was to literally cause mayhem on non combative. So they would be away from the fight.


Madara was used against the army and to capture Naruto.



When Itachi broke free, running to fight another immortal person would have been retarded, even if he could totska blade him. Because he isn't the only threat.


Kabuto had some scary mother-fuckers running around and not everyone has fuinjutsu or even capable of defeating them.
 
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I'm the reason for the confusion. I was referring to their primes as in when both were alive and before Madara died and defied death. He has EMS and Kurama then, but that wouldn't be fair on Itachi either who's half dead and has a waning eye sight.
If we’re discussing your scenario then sure, he can have Koto but it hardly changes anything.
 

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If we’re discussing your scenario then sure, he can have Koto but it hardly changes anything.
Koto would neg Madara because it's one of the many broken abilities Kishimoto used to get himself out a corner he wrote himself in.

But hardly anyone in the series uses a one-shot in that fashion. Especially with Kishimoto writing the plot since he has the final say.



Then again, saying who wins over who is nothing but head-canons and speculations. You could say X does Y to win against Z.

But I could say, "nuh-uh, Z uses W to defend against Y to kill X"
 

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Koto would neg Madara because it's one of the many broken abilities Kishimoto used to get himself out a corner he wrote himself in.

But hardly anyone in the series uses a one-shot in that fashion. Especially with Kishimoto writing the plot since he has the final say.



Then again, saying who wins over who is nothing but head-canons and speculations. You could say X does Y to win against Z.

But I could say, "nuh-uh, Z uses W to defend against Y to kill X"
Who’s to say that Madara would even fall for Koto? Juubito was able to anticipate Sasuke’s Amaterasu by seeing him build up chakra in the eye. Madara’s an advanced sensory ninja that was able to tell that Sasuke had a mangekyou sharingan without having eyes. He’d know if a crow had a sharingan as well.
 

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Who’s to say that Madara would even fall for Koto? Juubito was able to anticipate Sasuke’s Amaterasu by seeing him build up chakra in the eye. Madara’s an advanced sensory ninja that was able to tell that Sasuke had a mangekyou sharingan without having eyes. He’d know if a crow had a sharingan as well.
Even if Madara knew about it he's too arrogant to care.
 

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Who’s to say that Madara would even fall for Koto?
Then again, saying who wins over who is nothing but head-canons and speculations. You could say X does Y to win against Z.

But I could say, "nuh-uh, Z uses W to defend against Y to kill X"
It's pretty pointless to argue something like this imo.


That's why I like vs battles where things are equalized.
 

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Even if Madara knew about it he's too arrogant to care.
If he’s not an Edo Tensei with Hashirama’s healing factor, and is fighting a battle with absolutely nothing to gain from it, nothing suggests that he’d disregard another Mangekyou Sharingan’s abilities unless he knew for certain that it wouldn’t affect him.
 

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If he’s not an Edo Tensei with Hashirama’s healing factor, and is fighting a battle with absolutely nothing to gain from it, nothing suggests that he’d disregard another Mangekyou Sharingan’s abilities unless he knew for certain that it wouldn’t affect him.
Except that Madara has a better sharingan than the crow does and Madara literally doesn't know what jutsu is going to come out regardless of if there's build up in the eye.

Besides Madara isn't a sensor type.
 

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Except that Madara has a better sharingan than the crow does and Madara literally doesn't know what jutsu is going to come out regardless of if there's build up in the eye.

Besides Madara isn't a sensor type.
What does Madara having a better eye than Itachi’s crow have to do with anything?

Madara literally sensed Hashirama’s resurrection, sensed Obito’s and Naruto’s location on the battlefield and other sensory feats. So...fail.

And like I said, I’m pretty sure he knows what a sharingan’s chakra signature looks like when it’s preparing for a genjutsu. And like Wilds had said, this can go on forever.
 

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What does Madara having a better eye than Itachi’s crow have to do with anything?

Madara literally sensed Hashirama’s resurrection, sensed Obito’s and Naruto’s location on the battlefield and other sensory feats. So...fail.

And like I said, I’m pretty sure he knows what a sharingan’s chakra signature looks like when it’s preparing for a genjutsu. And like Wilds had said, this can go on forever.
Post scans.I don't know about the first beat, but afterwards ,Madara had Sage mode...
 
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Itachi's own words describing how Powerful and Great Madara is


" my accomplice , my teacher " !


" an invincible immortal "





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and those itachi fapboys think he can defeat Madara

Perfect Susanoo will neg diff Itachi

let alone other OP jutsus


Itachi Biggest achievement is MS level
Even Obito is stronger than him in MS level


as i said Itachi even as an Edo with unlimited chakra and with Sasuke Backup
got owned by DSM kabuto , and the so called Expert in genjutsu

got caught by genin genjutsu ( Tayuya )



if he wasn't an edo in that fight he will be easily dead by Kabuto


and this is DSM kabuto not the Great Madara


a lot of people are stronger than itachi
but his riders are living in a illusion caused by Itachi himself ....
 
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