[VS] Deidara vs Tsunade

[Apêx1]

Conditions: Deidara isn't allowed to go airborne
Distance: 10 meters
Restrictions: C0 & Femme Fatale's Tsunade
Intel: None

Credits:
Technique, Forbidden. "Grounded Deidara vs Tsunade." NB. N.p., 10 Dec. 2016. Web. 10 Dec. 2016. 10/10

 

[Imperious]

Deidara wins mid-high difficulty. Tsunade has fantastic healing feats, but she is slow. She'll be repeatedly swarmed by c4 and c3 attacks and eventually taken out, especially considering that they pack enough strength to take out a Bijuu.

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[Zexion~]

lol

-Clay clone strategy should work
-Still has the small C4 strategy
-Can hide underground and still bomb from above

All he needs to do is remove a leg.

 

[NarutoX28]

Tsunade wins. To me, it's just staggering to see Tsunade lose to Deidara whose aerial maneuverability plays a pivotal role in practically all of his battles. If Tsunade could battle Edo Madara at close-range and defend herself against five Susano'o clones, she's not going to falter against someone who can hardly handle himself in CQC.

 

[Icelerate]

Conditions: Deidara isn't allowed to go airborne
Distance: 10 meters
Restrictions: C0 & Femme Fatale's Tsunade
Intel: None

Because you restricted Femme Fatale's Tsunade, that means I can use KingHashirama's Tsunade instead. Tsunade utterly rapes even an unrestricted Deidara.

 

[Imperious]

Tsunade wins. To me, it's just staggering to see Tsunade lose to Deidara whose aerial maneuverability plays a pivotal role in practically all of his battles. If Tsunade could battle Edo Madara at close-range and defend herself against five Susano'o clones, she's not going to falter against someone who can hardly handle himself in CQC.

Deidara wields all of the factors necessary to not only handle himself in close quarter combat, but overpower Tsunade as well. With higher speed stats and greater reaction feats, there is no way that Deidara is going to succumb to Tsunade's linear Taijutsu style. Being as slow as she is, her punches are easily avoided, and might she decide to attack the ground as a form of distraction, Deidara will take that opportunity to create clay clones and light up Tsunade's world. Tsunade does not have the durability feats necessary to endure the destructive feats of Deidara's arsenal. Her best bet is a heal and attack method. Howbeit, she can only last but so long. (Sorry for lack of scans, i'm lazy and on my phone).​

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[NarutoX28]

Deidara wields all of the factors necessary to not only handle himself in close quarter combat, but overpower Tsunade as well. With higher speed stats and greater reaction feats, there is no way that Deidara is going to succumb to Tsunade's linear Taijutsu style. Being as slow as she is, her punches are easily avoided, and might she decigr to attack the ground as a form of distraction, Deidara will take that opportunity to create clay clones and light up Tsunade's world. Tsunade does not have the durability feats necessary to endure the destructive feats of Deidara's arsenal. Her best bet is a heal and attack method. Howbeit, she can only last but so long. (Sorry for lack of scans, i'm lazy and on my phone).​

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Greater speed? Possibly.

Greater reaction feats? Wholeheartedly disagree.

Even if Deidara's speed enables him to initiate a tactical retreat and devise a strategy around clone-feints, Tsunade's gargantuan strength that can generate immense craters that astonished even Hashirama would make this strategy unfeasible. If need be, she'd simply use Katsuyu and defend against his explosions.

 

[Imperious]

Greater speed? Possibly.

Greater reaction feats? Wholeheartedly disagree.

Even if Deidara's speed enables him to initiate a tactical retreat and devise a strategy around clone-feints, Tsunade's gargantuan strength that can generate immense craters that astonished even Hashirama would make this strategy unfeasible. If need be, she'd simply use Katsuyu and defend against his explosions.

Firstly, Katsuyu has feats for tanking shockwaves and heavy forces. She has no feats for tanking entire raw explosions. And under the scenario that she did, Tsunade is not going to win the fight by remaining enveloped in a slug the entire time. Secondly, Deidara has far greater reaction feats and holds an entire point above Tsunade in speed stats. Tsunade could barely keep up with Part 1 Kabuto, and will be wiped out by Deidara. Thirdly, Tsunade can punch the clay all she wants, but her fist would just tear straight through them and then Deidara will remotely activate them. Deidara does not need to run and strategically plan anything, he evades and abuses her with ease.​

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[Frois]

Conditions: Deidara isn't allowed to go airborne
Distance: 10 meters
Restrictions: C0 & Femme Fatale's Tsunade
Intel: None

Deidara, Low-Difficulty

 

[KidGamer65]

Tsunade wins mid difficulty.

-The impact Madara's Magatama made rivaled or surpassed what Base B, someone physically stronger than Ay, did with his lariat, but that power is focused into piercing form. Tsunade can take that power but far more concentrated with zero damage. So we can forget about any low level bombs doing serious enough damage to tear off entire limbs unless she lets it hit her unguarded or doesn't try to evade. Then there's her being able to survive Mabui's teleportation with minor cuts for whatever that is worth, but that doesn't really matter.

-Fish bomb feat is irrelevant because explosions like that are much stronger underwater and this isn't an underwater fight. When it comes to C1 that is the only extraordinary explosion he's shown along side the squid that flipped over Turtle Island IIRC. Tsunade is fast enough to make sure she's not at the absolute center of any of these explosions.

-C2 is almost useless as Deidara would blow himself up. His only way to escape is to dive underground, but if he stops to do that Tsunade will pulverize him as her AoE is too large for him to evade while trying to burrow underground, and if she jumps then her AoE will roughly be the same strength as Sakura's. If push comes to shove Katsuyu can be summoned to protect her from C2.

-C4 is useless as he'd have to make distance between them to not get caught in the blast himself.

Match ends with her punching his guts out or with him getting caught in something of

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[Forbidden Technique]

10/10 thread, Apex. You come up with such great match ups mate, keep 'em going.

I think Tsunade wins high difficulty for the reasons KG stated.

 

[RedRobin]

Deidara win mid-high difficulty. Tsunade has fantastic healing feats, but she is slow. She'll be repeatedly swarmed by c4 and c3 attacks and eventually taken out, especially considering that they pack enough strength to take out a Bijuu.

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She isnt slow at all.

 

[Imperious]

Tsunade wins mid difficulty.

-The impact Madara's Magatama made rivaled or surpassed what Base B, someone physically stronger than Ay, did with his lariat, but that power is focused into piercing form. Tsunade can take that power but far more concentrated with zero damage. So we can forget about any low level bombs doing serious enough damage to tear off entire limbs unless she lets it hit her unguarded or doesn't try to evade. Then there's her being able to survive Mabui's teleportation with minor cuts for whatever that is worth, but that doesn't really matter.

-Fish bomb feat is irrelevant because explosions like that are much stronger underwater and this isn't an underwater fight. When it comes to C1 that is the only extraordinary explosion he's shown along side the squid that flipped over Turtle Island IIRC. Tsunade is fast enough to make sure she's not at the absolute center of any of these explosions.

-C2 is almost useless as Deidara would blow himself up. His only way to escape is to dive underground, but if he stops to do that Tsunade will pulverize him as her AoE is too large for him to evade while trying to burrow underground, and if she jumps then her AoE will roughly be the same strength as Sakura's. If push comes to shove Katsuyu can be summoned to protect her from C2.

-C4 is useless as he'd have to make distance between them to not get caught in the blast himself.

Match ends with her punching his guts out or with him getting caught in something of

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Its not so much a matter of the damage his explosions can do, or the durability of her body, but rather her ability to stay conscious after facing a blunt explosion. Wielding bombs capable of knocking out a large beast, a tailed beast at that, Deidara's bombs have amazing destructive feats. She is not simply brushing off an explosion of that proportion, and if she does, she'll be immediately swarmed by several more clay bombs in those few seconds of distraction. To say that Tsunade has the speed to avoid his explosions, when Hebi Sasuke (who has far superior speed) found himself caught in the center of Deidara's explosion, is ridiculous. Putting distance between himself and Tsunade is easy when he can scatter clay bombs all in front of him, and Tsunade isn't dumb enough to launch forward and confront his explosions. I also completely disagree that the fish explosion was much more powerful because it was underwater. That makes no since at all, as water does not augment earth stype techniques in anime, and using real world logic the water around the bomb woupd actually surpress the blunt of the explosion, as it takes up space around the explosion which in contrast to open air, restricts the explosion from moving more freely and causing more damage. Therefore, if a suppressed explosion was able to knock out a tailed beast, than an explosion over land would be over kill. Tsunade can do all the dodging she pleases, but she'll only be giving Deidara the opportunity to deploy clay-clone feints and she'll end up getting caught in one of any of the many recurring explosion anyway. Deidarw doesn't display much taijutsu in anime, but if Tsunade's jutsu is anything like it was when she fought Kabuto, then Deidara will have multiple openings to exploit due to her lack of speed and lack of attention to her opponents movements. With speed stats superior to Tsunade's, as well as superior reaction feats, Deidara would never succumb to Tsunade's linear fighting style. And under the scenario that he did, it wouldn't really be him, but rather a clay-clone feint. Tsunade may have high intelligence stats, but she is extremely vulnerable to clone feints.​

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[Imperious]

She isnt slow at all.

She is very slow. Part 1 Kabuto had little to no trouble at all reacting to and keeping up with her, and even exploited her lack of speed several times. She has little to no speed feats and even holds what is considered to be low speed stats in comparison to the opponent she's being faced against. Deidara could potentially blitz her, but close quarter combat isn't very much his style. However, that doesn't mean that he isn't able to react to her linear, predictable fighting style, and able to easily dodge her slow movement.​

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[RedRobin]

She is very slow. Part 1 Kabuto had little to no trouble at all reacting to and keeping up with her, and even exploited her lack of speef several times. She has little to no speed feats and even holds what is considered to be lows speed stats in comparison to the opponent she's being faced against. Deidara could potentially blitz her, but close quarter combat isn't very much his style. However, that doesn't mean that he isn't able to react to her linear, predictable fighting style, and able to easily dodge her slow movement.​

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LOL Is this part 1 Tsunade? How about you look at Byakugo chakra mode Tsunade then come talk to me.

 

[Booker]

No way in hell Tsunade survives a hit from this, and I'm not sure what feats allow her to continually avoid the blast radius.

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[Apêx1]

10/10 thread, Apex. You come up with such great match ups mate, keep 'em going.

I think Tsunade wins high difficulty for the reasons KG stated.

I asked someone to make this thread in the group 2 days ago. Would you like me to credit you in the OP? Lmfao

 

[~Ethereal~]

Deidara will go Osama Bin Laden on her.

 

[Imperious]

LOL Is this part 1 Tsunade? How about you look at Byakugo chakra mode Tsunade then come talk to me.

Firstly, that doesn't change her speed stats for a reason. Using Byakugo greatly enhances her strength, as she has more chskra to augment her CES. It also greatly enhances the rate in which she heals. No where in in any description, be it a wiki or a databook, does it detail that Byakugo augments her speed. Secondly, being a Hokage, I doubt that she had any time at all to develop and improve her skills from part 1 to part 2. Considering that she was stuck training Sakura, has mountains worth of paper work, and then had many Shinobi attacking Konoha all through of Part 2, it is safe to assume that her display of taijutsu in Part 1 is what she is currently capable in Part 2. Thirdly, if you think that Deidara is going to let Tsunade stand around and activate her Byakugo, you're sadly mistaken. In the 5-10 seconds it takes to activate her technique, she'll already be swarmed with clay bombs.​

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[ToshiZO]

Why wouldn't those explosions do anything to Tsunade again? That's not normal blunt force impact? That's a raw explosion which can tear limbs apart if not fast enough. She'll have to be constantly dodging the blast radius, is she capable of doing that and closing the distance at the same time?

Sasuke with CM2 got his wing blasted right off, and his durability >>> Tsunade's (know the difference between endurance and durability, before losing it on this statement).

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, and it's not like the smaller explosions can't do this, it's just that Sasuke was fast enough to avoid those for the most part.

She can win, but I'd put her chances lower than Deidara's.