Common Misconception: Sasuke is a Deadbeat Dad

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To the Sakura point- if Sakura could have it her way Sasuke would be sitting in the house so she could stare at his face all day. If she "let" him go, it's bc she couldn't stop him from going anyway. She rolls over as usual and Sasuke calls the shots. if he says he'll be back in 6 months she deals with it bc what SHE wants is the least of HIS concerns.
No this is a very biased view, probably Sakura understands that his traveling is important and she is content with it, even if deep down "she wants Sasuke to stay in the house so she can stare at his face all day" that is unrealistic and she wouldn't even bring it up.

And from what we saw of Sasuke in 698 and 699 he is a person that values his bonds so your second bold statement is not true.
 
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No this is a very biased view, probably Sakura understands that his traveling is important and she is content with it, even if deep down "she wants Sasuke to stay in the house so she can stare at his face all day" that is unrealistic and she wouldn't even bring it up.

And from what we saw of Sasuke in 698 and 699 he is a person that values his bonds so your second bold statement is not true.
This assumes she has GROWN when it comes to Sasuke....she hasn't grown at all....as far as Sasuke is concerned, Sakura is STILL her 12 year old self. There is NOTHING in the final chapters to indicate otherwise. Lord knows I WISH there was.

But, if I want to be more generous with her ...yea...she probably understands.....at least I hope to god she at least does that.

EDIT: And what I mean by what she wants being the least of his concerns is Sasuke now has a HIGHEr purpose....he sacrifices time with his child for this purpose bc it means maintaining world peace....being at home with Sakura IF they're a legit couple-is the least of his concerns when world peace and ensuring his child has a bright future is at stake.

I was never one of those ppl who claimed Sasuke didn't care for Sakura....he absolutely did in part 1 and does now....and he's grateful to her for all she has done for him....but the family man picture some ppl are trying to paint of him is NOT true to his character....even when Sasuke was sane, he was still aloof, but he showed he cared in subtle (like complimenting Sakura's improvement in genjustu) and extreme ways (sacrificing his life for Naruto)......outside of that, as long as he knew your life wasn't in danger and your were ok, Sasuke wasn't trying to spend time with them and hang out an stuff......

...furthermore, Sasuke is a mission focused person.....he has a one tracked mind just like Naruto.....if his mission is to travel the world and help maintain peace from the shadows, then he'll do that even if it means sacrificing time with his family (child)......and nothing Sakura says or wants will change that....she can't change his sense of higher purpose.....she simply doesn't have that kind of influence over him
 
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There's a difference between being a deadbeat and being away with a purpose.

He's not leaving just to get away. He's on a personal journey for redemption and understanding of the world he almost turned his eyes from.

Consider him pulling a Hoeinheim from FMAB. He left, but he values what he's left. At the same time, he has a purpose for leaving.
 

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You're ignorant.Your type of naivety would lead to the same problems over and over,good thing Sasuke's smart enough to find out the truth,and stop things from happening again.
As i said this reason for journey useless because manga already showed all that need for Kaguya reviving

I encourage you to open your mind,and stop selectively reading.Masashi said,"Sasuke has gone out into the world tofind the answers to ALL of the unanswered questions. For example, who and what was Kaguya exactly?"
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As i already said this useless reason for his journey also. Nobody in NV knows truth about Otsotsuki origins, but Sasuke sudenlly finds all the truth about them ?

It's not just about Kaguya and her clan,also if you read chapter 699 again,you will see Sasuke speakiny about how him and Naruto was able to come to understand each other,but it may not be like that for everyone else.And he mentions how things will get harder with bigger things,as in it will be hard for everyone in the world to understand each other. Did
Finally I see good reason for his journey from you.

[/QUOTE]But you,it's as if you're always trying to find a reason not to like him,and downplay him.[/QUOTE]

"Sigh" It comes from someone who always downplaying Naruto with the Kyuubi things.

Hagoromo created the moon :|
How can they be from the moon if he created it? Hamura's descendant. Just took up residence there to watch after the mazo
I made a mistakewith Otsotsuki origins, sorry.
 
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We don't know that he's "with, with" her...we ONLY know that they have a kid together...that's all.....we do indeed see TWO Uchiha symbols in the house, both of which are half hidden symbolizing how scarce his physical presence is in their lives....he likely left those trinkets for Sarada....

...but even if he was with her, Sasuke calls the shots....end of story.....this is NOT a situation of two equals....Sasuke is the alpha male, Sakura is the chick who'd bend over forward and backward to get him and keep him....that's it.....she hasn't and shows no sign of standing up for herself or speaking up if she was unhappy with a decision he made.....IF they're together AND she's happy, it's bc HE decided to put in the effort of his own fruition on acct of factors OUTSIDE of her....Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development....even if he decided to remain an *******, she's still role over and take it bc those are the dynamics of this "relationship" until Kishi shows us otherwise--which he won't, bc he can't without ruining Sasuke's character... Sakura is going to HAVE to look a little pathetic even if they end up really being a legitimate couple....

....and while Sasuke absolutely cares for Sakura as a comrade...and the obviously had a tryst, the most we or Sakura are going to get from Sasuke is his part 1 self (in terms of personality), which was mainly focused on what his purpose was at the moment....AGAIN...Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development

...now, Sasuke is looking at the bigger picture....his purpose in life is bigger than being at home everyday....it's maintaining the peace Itachi died for through the cooperation he and Naruto now understand...

Anway....if I recall our previous interactions correctly, you'll have me on here going back and forth all night and I ain't about that life...

Take or leave my opinion....part 3 and the movie will prove one of us right and the other wrong.....I'm going to bed. Good night :)

Whaaaa?

Sasuke and Sakura are together.He gave her the forehead poke,which Masashi said was Sasuke's ultimate expression of love,he also thanked Sakura,which was for always trying to help him,and never giving up,and he told her he will see her when he got back.Clearly he did that since he has a kid with her.

".AGAIN...Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development."

Yeah,she never helped him develop.He never cared for her enough to consider what she says and how she feels.
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This assumes she has GROWN when it comes to Sasuke....she hasn't grown at all....as far as Sasuke is concerned, Sakura is STILL her 12 year old self. There is NOTHING in the final chapters to indicate otherwise. Lord knows I WISH there was.

But, if I want to be more generous with her ...yea...she probably understands.....at least I hope to god she at least does that.

EDIT: And what I mean by what she wants being the least of his concerns is Sasuke now has a HIGHEr purpose....he sacrifices time with his child for this purpose bc it means maintaining world peace....being at home with Sakura IF they're a legit couple-is the least of his concerns when world peace and ensuring his child has a bright future is at stake.

I was never one of those ppl who claimed Sasuke didn't care for Sakura....he absolutely did in part 1 and does now....and he's grateful to her for all she has done for him....but the family man picture some ppl are trying to paint of him is NOT true to his character....even when Sasuke was sane, he was still aloof, but he showed he cared in subtle (like complimenting Sakura's improvement in genjustu) and extreme ways (sacrificing his life for Naruto)......outside of that, as long as he knew your life wasn't in danger and your were ok, Sasuke wasn't trying to spend time with them and hang out an stuff......

...furthermore, Sasuke is a mission focused person.....he has a one tracked mind just like Naruto.....if his mission is to travel the world and help maintain peace from the shadows, then he'll do that even if it means sacrificing time with his family (child)......and nothing Sakura says or wants will change that....she can't change his sense of higher purpose.....she simply doesn't have that kind of influence over him
Your earlier post implied that he didn't care about what she thinks or how she feels,as if she doesn't effect him,but yeah,her not liking him going off on his journey wouldn't stop him from going,but he still cares about how she thinks and feels,and i'm sure Sakura would be fine with Sasuke leaving since it's for a good purpose unlike the end of part 1 and throughout part 2,when Sasuke was on the bad side.


As i said this reason for journey useless because manga already showed all that need for Kaguya reviving

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As i already said this useless reason for his journey also. Nobody in NV knows truth about Otsotsuki origins, but Sasuke sudenlly finds all the truth about them ?

Finally I see good reason for his journey from you.
Everything about Kaguya wasn't explained.You're just assuming stuff you aren't even thinking about is useless.Part of why Sasuke wants to find out everything about Kaguya and her clan is because no one knows about them.

They are the origins of the Shinobi world,ofcouse they are important.Knowing where they came from,what their intentions were,etc

And yes,the Kyuubi is a living entity who helps Naruto out.That's fact,which is the reason why i say it,especially for those who want to give credit for everything and ignore the Kyuubi's help.You go against Sasuke all the time on a variety of things.
 
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Whaaaa?

Sasuke and Sakura are together.He gave her the forehead poke,which Masashi said was Sasuke's ultimate expression of love,he also thanked Sakura,which was for always trying to help him,and never giving up,and he told her he will see her when he got back.Clearly he did that since he has a kid with her.

".AGAIN...Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development."

Yeah,she never helped him develop.He never cared for her enough to consider what she says and how she feels.
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I guess Itachi wanted to be with Sasuke. :rolleyes:

And Sakura was never a factor in his development. It was Naruto that made him give up on his "revolution" not Sakura.
 
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Whaaaa?

Sasuke and Sakura are together.He gave her the forehead poke,which Masashi said was Sasuke's ultimate expression of love,he also thanked Sakura,which was for always trying to help him,and never giving up,and he told her he will see her when he got back.Clearly he did that since he has a kid with her.

".AGAIN...Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development."

Yeah,she never helped him develop.He never cared for her enough to consider what she says and how she feels.
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Ugh oh....I was waiting for the scans that could be interpreted multiple ways......to the first few panels- ok, she calmed him down....can't take that from her...in the last few panels....yea, he included her when he thought about team 7....he was absolutely torn about leaving the village....never denied he cared about Sakura....

...of course, all this doesn't diminish the fact that he only recognizes Naruto as his best friend and the fact that he thought nothing of cutting down Sakura (though he also didn't hesitate to cut down Naruto in part 2) and spoke down to her and made her sad multiple times even BEFORE he went crazy and wanted to kill Naruto to break the ONE bond he had left...Nads was the only person who could influence him and whom he felt truly bonded to so he had to KILL him, while he only used genjutsu on Sakura....guess he didn't have to worry about HER swaying him....could it be that's she's just not enough of a factor in his decisions and development (your scans accomplished nothing...lol).....

It was AAALLLL Naruto who brought Sasuke back from the darn side...not Sakura or her baseless love or her pathetic begging or the so called good times tha they had as team 7 that we never saw on panel or was ever implied off panel based on flashbacks of Sakura's interaction with Sasuke from Sakura's AND Naruto's perspectives.

....but you posted those scans from over 550 chapters ago so, yea....she has been such a major factor in Sasuke's life :rolleyes:

....don't go forcing ROMANTIC LOVE on him until we see the nuances of their relationship in part 3.

And as I've said before MULTIPLE times...the forhead poke was used to show love, yes, but also PUSH SASUKE AWAY!!! Itachi did FOREHEAD TO FOREHEAD when he finally let down his guard and let Sasuke in.

ANd it was NOT KISHI who said the forehead poke was an ultimate expression of love, it was the commentators. *vetting this...I could be mistaken* (EDIT: Ok...confirmed to have NOT been stated by Kishi: )
 
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As i said this reason for journey useless because manga already showed all that need for Kaguya reviving

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As i already said this useless reason for his journey also. Nobody in NV knows truth about Otsotsuki origins, but Sasuke sudenlly finds all the truth about them ?

Finally I see good reason for his journey from you.
All Sasuke needs to do is summon the Gedo Mazo and destroy it. :rolleyes:
 
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I guess Itachi wanted to be with Sasuke. :rolleyes:

And Sakura was never a factor in his development. It was Naruto that made him give up on his "revolution" not Sakura.
Clearly he loved Sasuke in a non romantic way.

Dude,did you skip over the pages of Sasuke stopping his ownage of the Sound Ninjas because Sakura wanted to stop him? The same Sasuke who was craving to become stronger fast,and he just recieved a big boost?

And when the CM was taking control of him,then he thought about Sakura,and overcame it by will power.

And when Kakashi spoke with him,about how both lost people who were important to them,and gained new ones,which Sasuke instantly pictured Naruto and Sakura,and began to chill.

He would have been fine if Itachi never showed up + the Sound 4 after Kakashi spoke with him.
Ugh oh....I was waiting for the scans that could be interpreted multiple ways......to the first few panels- ok, she calmed him down....can't take that from her...in the last few panels....yea, he included her when he thought about team 7....he was absolutely torn about leaving the village....never denied he cared about Sakura....

...of course, all this doesn't diminish the fact that he only recognizes Naruto as his best friend and the fact that he thought nothing of cutting down Sakura (though he also didn't hesitate to cut down Naruto in part 2) and spoke down to her and made her sad multiple times even BEFORE he went crazy and wanted to kill Naruto to break the ONE bond he had left...Nads was the only person who could influence him and whom he felt truly bonded to so he had to KILL him, while he only used genjutsu on Sakura....guess he didn't have to worry about HER swaying him....could it be that's she's just not enough of a factor in his decisions and development (your scans accomplished nothing...lol).....

It was AAALLLL Naruto who brought Sasuke back from the darn side...not Sakura or her baseless love or her pathetic begging or the so called good times tha they had as team 7 that we never saw on panel or was ever implied off panel based on flashbacks of Sakura's interaction with Sasuke from Sakura's AND Naruto's perspectives.

....but you posted those scans from over 550 chapters ago so, yea....she has been such a major factor in Sasuke's life :rolleyes:

....don't go forcing ROMANTIC LOVE on him until we see the nuances of their relationship in part 3.

And as I've said before MULTIPLE times...the forhead poke was used to show love, yes, but also PUSH SASUKE AWAY!!! Itachi did FOREHEAD TO FOREHEAD when he finally let down his guard and let Sasuke in.

ANd it was NOT KISHI who said the forehead poke was an ultimate expression of love, it was the commentators. *vetting this...I could be mistaken*
Ofcourse Sasuke places Naruto above Sakura,and he has more impact on him then she does.Naruto and Sasuke both grew up alone without families,they both have a natural understanding of each other that most people can't truly understand considering they haven't gone through what they did.

Those pages were to show that she did effect him and his development,i know she didn't much in part 2,considering he had already cut his bond with everyone.Naruto still effected him because of his persistence,and everything they have in common,which others did not have with him.

Naruto is the closest person to him,Sakura is the 2nd.I assume he likes her romantically because,well,chapter 699 + they been together for 10+ years and have a kid together.
 

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Clearly he loved Sasuke in a non romantic way.

Dude,did you skip over the pages of Sasuke stopping his ownage of the Sound Ninjas because Sakura wanted to stop him? The same Sasuke who was craving to become stronger fast,and he just recieved a big boost?

And when the CM was taking control of him,then he thought about Sakura,and overcame it by will power.

And when Kakashi spoke with him,about how both lost people who were important to them,and gained new ones,which Sasuke instantly pictured Naruto and Sakura,and began to chill.

He would have been fine if Itachi never showed up + the Sound 4 after Kakashi spoke with him.


Ofcourse Sasuke places Naruto above Sakura,and he has more impact on him then she does.Naruto and Sasuke both grew up alone without families,they both have a natural understanding of each other that most people can't truly understand considering they haven't gone through what they did.

Those pages were to show that she did effect him and his development,i know she didn't much in part 2,considering he had already cut his bond with everyone.Naruto still effected him because of his persistence,and everything they have in common,which others did not have with him.

Naruto is the closest person to him,Sakura is the 2nd.I assume he likes her romantically because,well,chapter 699 + they been together for 10+ years and have a kid together.
Sasuke looked out for his teammates no matter who they are. He barely knew Sakura yet he protected her.

@bold: Itachi>Sakura.
 

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Sasuke looked out for his teammates no matter who they are. He barely knew Sakura yet he protected her.

@bold: Itachi>Sakura.
They got to know each other from going to the same Ninja academy for years,and furthermore from being on Team 7. Yeah they probably didn't talk in the academy but from going to school with someone for years you can get to know them even if you don't talk much.Also he referred to team 7 as his family multiple times in chapter 698.

I had a feeling Itachi would be brought up like that.Out of the people who alive Sakura is the 2nd person he's the closest too.

Exactly, he barely knew that ***** yet still cared about her because she was merely a comrade. You know they were a team for like a month?
It was more than a month,and even if it was only a month,so? You can still become close to someone in a short amount of time.Bonds with other people are especially important to him,considering he had everyone he cared about murdered,and was alone for years.Now he has become close to more people,so ofcourse he's going to hold them in high regard.

They were more than "mere comrades" to him.As i said above,he referred to Team 7 as his family multiple times.Also Kakashi taught them the importance of comrades during the Bell test - they know comerades are important and are not to be taken lightly.

As Lors Radon said above,Sasuke said,"Dear" when speaking about her.I will also like to add on that he also referred to her as "precious".
 
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I had a feeling someone would put Sarada above Sakura.What do you mean by the last sentence?
lol you always have them feelings huh. Lol

Yea children are very precious to their parents, in my opinion EVEN for Sakura its Sarada-->Sasuke.

The last sentence I just meant that like you said she is the second most important person to Sasuke but not behind Naruto, Behind Sarada. ;)
 
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He called her "dear to him" That sounds to me like something more than a comrade
Going by his inner monologue he didn't consider her even a friend.

They got to know each other from going to the same Ninja academy for years,and furthermore from being on Team 7. Yeah they probably didn't talk in the academy but from going to school with someone for years you can get to know them even if you don't talk much.Also he referred to team 7 as his family multiple times in chapter 698.

I had a feeling Itachi would be brought up like that.Out of the people who alive Sakura is the 2nd person he's the closest too.
Going by the parent comment she made in part 1. Sakura didn't know much about Sasuke in the academy.

It was more than a month,and even if it was only a month,so? You can still become close to someone in a short amount of time.Bonds with other people are especially important to him,considering he had everyone he cared about murdered,and was alone for years.Now he has become close to more people,so ofcourse he's going to hold them in high regard.

They were more than "mere comrades" to him.As i said above,he referred to Team 7 as his family multiple times.Also Kakashi taught them the importance of comrades during the Bell test - they know comerades are important and are not to be taken lightly.

As Lors Radon said above,Sasuke said,"Dear" when speaking about her.I will also like to add on that he also referred to her as "precious".
Sasuke called Naruto "his one and only friend". For him to say that means they weren't close. I have family members I am not close to.
 
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