Clearing up Yata Misconceptions

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True, but, yata is a Godly entity of the supernatural



Yata states all attacks "Lose their meaning" so kamui loses it's meaning of being unblockabe
the databook also says there is no defense against kamui so why should we put yata mirror above kamui and again you cant prove it wont work as kakashi has never tried it against the yata mirror
 

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Did not read the below section obviously
I didn't really need to.

Yata states all attacks "Lose their meaning" so kamui loses it's meaning of being unblockabe
Kamui can't be defended against (allow me to bold it for you again) No matter what

So according to the databook No matter what Yata does it cannot defend against this jutsu.

Ignoring Kamui's hype in favor of Yata just proves Bias
 

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So are you saying they cancel each other out?
not really im just saying we cant make a proper judgment until kishi himself comments on the subject in person or in the manga so its really just a toss of a coin at the moment and if you ever do a verse match between kakashi and itachi you should look at it from the two perspectives if kamui works or yata blocks
 

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I believe Kamui will warp Yata away because it is not an Astral or material attack, it's not even an attack really, it's just a concept Obito and Kakashi happen to be able to use offensively. Kamui is like a door that pulls you in. It will pull in Yata
 

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I didn't really need to.



Kamui can't be defended against (allow me to bold it for you again) No matter what

So according to the databook No matter what Yata does it cannot defend against this jutsu.

Ignoring Kamui's hype in favor of Yata just proves Bias
But wait.. Wasn't Kamui's hype disproven when Gedo mazo head didn't disappear? Wasn't it blocked?

As the manga states all jutsu (Including Kamui) has a weakness

Yata mirror is not a jutsu its a godly spiritual entitiy
 

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Cause Kamui cancels Kamui right?

So if Yata is hit with Kamui it will add Kamui to it's properties and thus cancel it out
Kamui involves opening a door to another dimension. That dimension is only accessible by Obito and Kakashi thanks to a unique pair of eyes. That is why when Kakashi opened a door on Gedo Mazo's head, Obito was able to close it. It is also why when Obito trapped Kakashi in that dimension, Kakashi was able to get out.

Yata Mirror cannot "turn itself" into a door leading to another dimension. The notion is ridiculous when Yata Mirror's sole feat involved blocking explosive tags. If the author intended to portray it as invincibility tangibly manifested, which you are suggesting with your misguided logic, he had numerous opportunities to do so.
 
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Thanks for linking me to a completely uncited and difficult to identify image. I can barely tell what it is either. It looks like a Futon Rasenshuriken, which is not what I was talking about.
It is, and it's also filler.

Kamui involves opening a door to another dimension. That dimension is only accessible by Obito and Kakashi thanks to a unique pair of eyes. That is why when Kakashi opened a door on Gedo Mazo's head, Obito closed it. It is also why when Obito trapped Kakashi in that dimension, Kakashi was able to get out.

Yata Mirror cannot "turn itself" into a door leading to another dimension. The notion is ridiculous when Yata Mirror's sole feat involved blocking explosive tags.
Well it also blocked Sasuke's sword and Kirin.
 
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