Clearing up Yata Misconceptions

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Thanks for linking me to a completely uncited and difficult to identify image. I can barely tell what it is either. It looks like a Futon Rasenshuriken, which is not what I was talking about.
 

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True, but, yata is a Godly entity of the supernatural



Yata states all attacks "Lose their meaning" so kamui loses it's meaning of being unblockabe

the databook also says there is no defense against kamui so why should we put yata mirror above kamui and again you cant prove it wont work as kakashi has never tried it against the yata mirror
 

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the databook also says there is no defense against kamui so why should we put yata mirror above kamui and again you cant prove it wont work as kakashi has never tried it against the yata mirror

So are you saying they cancel each other out?
 

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Did not read the below section obviously

I didn't really need to.

Yata states all attacks "Lose their meaning" so kamui loses it's meaning of being unblockabe

Kamui can't be defended against (allow me to bold it for you again) No matter what

So according to the databook No matter what Yata does it cannot defend against this jutsu.

Ignoring Kamui's hype in favor of Yata just proves Bias
 

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What ever the current user of this weapon cannot maintain his Susanno for long to use it to its full abilities (alive anyway)
 

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So are you saying they cancel each other out?

not really im just saying we cant make a proper judgment until kishi himself comments on the subject in person or in the manga so its really just a toss of a coin at the moment and if you ever do a verse match between kakashi and itachi you should look at it from the two perspectives if kamui works or yata blocks
 

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It all depends on how your word it.
I need to see it in action again before I judge.
 

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this thread is bunch of haters
believe it or not
itachi>All NB except The Big 3(Juubito,Madara,Hashirama)


OT:GREAT THREAD!
 

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chibaku tensei >> yata mirror
sound jutsu >> yata mirror
light >> yata mirror
kamui >> yata mirror

Itachi held back Yata Mirror because he wanted the Nagato and Kabuto fight to be a challenge for him U_U
 

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I believe Kamui will warp Yata away because it is not an Astral or material attack, it's not even an attack really, it's just a concept Obito and Kakashi happen to be able to use offensively. Kamui is like a door that pulls you in. It will pull in Yata
 

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I didn't really need to.



Kamui can't be defended against (allow me to bold it for you again) No matter what

So according to the databook No matter what Yata does it cannot defend against this jutsu.

Ignoring Kamui's hype in favor of Yata just proves Bias

But wait.. Wasn't Kamui's hype disproven when Gedo mazo head didn't disappear? Wasn't it blocked?

As the manga states all jutsu (Including Kamui) has a weakness

Yata mirror is not a jutsu its a godly spiritual entitiy
 

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What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object????
 

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But wait.. Wasn't Kamui's hype disproven when Gedo mazo head didn't disappear? Wasn't it blocked?

It was blocked by Obito, who has access to the Kamui dimension. Kakashi pumped out chakra to open that warping door, and Obito closed it.
 

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We'll see it in action soon enough, to clear all misconceptions
 

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kamui can't warp yata
even if it does
itachi's not gunna use it if he we're to fight kakashi
TSUKUYOMI is enough Susanoo is Overkill
 

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360 block? I wonder why Itachi's Susano'o was ripped apart then... PNJ? Yes the only answer. NOT.
 

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It was blocked by Obito, who has access to the Kamui dimension. Kakashi pumped out chakra to open that warping door, and Obito closed it.

Cause Kamui cancels Kamui right?

So if Yata is hit with Kamui it will add Kamui to it's properties and thus cancel it out
 

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Cause Kamui cancels Kamui right?

So if Yata is hit with Kamui it will add Kamui to it's properties and thus cancel it out

Kamui involves opening a door to another dimension. That dimension is only accessible by Obito and Kakashi thanks to a unique pair of eyes. That is why when Kakashi opened a door on Gedo Mazo's head, Obito was able to close it. It is also why when Obito trapped Kakashi in that dimension, Kakashi was able to get out.

Yata Mirror cannot "turn itself" into a door leading to another dimension. The notion is ridiculous when Yata Mirror's sole feat involved blocking explosive tags. If the author intended to portray it as invincibility tangibly manifested, which you are suggesting with your misguided logic, he had numerous opportunities to do so.
 
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Thanks for linking me to a completely uncited and difficult to identify image. I can barely tell what it is either. It looks like a Futon Rasenshuriken, which is not what I was talking about.

It is, and it's also filler.

Kamui involves opening a door to another dimension. That dimension is only accessible by Obito and Kakashi thanks to a unique pair of eyes. That is why when Kakashi opened a door on Gedo Mazo's head, Obito closed it. It is also why when Obito trapped Kakashi in that dimension, Kakashi was able to get out.

Yata Mirror cannot "turn itself" into a door leading to another dimension. The notion is ridiculous when Yata Mirror's sole feat involved blocking explosive tags.

Well it also blocked Sasuke's sword and Kirin.
 
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