Chapter 692 Sasuke's Revolution

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

A leader that kills off his friends because he doesnt neeed them. That's what the world truly needs to achieve true peace.
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I think you're confusing the word leader with sociopath, either way, I'm pretty sure you're trolling anyway.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

1. You say that like everybody knows where they were going.

2. No one has a reason to bother them like that.
In reality theres always an enemy who seeks out power so he can dominate all who oppose him. A world where everyone holds hands and always agrees is wishful thinking. When theres people theres jealousy,hate, greed.
 

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In reality theres always an enemy who seeks out power so he can dominate all who oppose him. A world where everyone holds hands and always agrees is wishful thinking. When theres people theres jealousy,hate, greed.
the biggest problem with your logic is that Sasuke's only guarantees what he is allegedly out to put an end to under a different umbrella. Let's say Sasuke manages to put an end to the current system, what then? He has no way of eliminating the hatred that would undoubtedly be directed towards him, nor can he guarantee that the end of the former system will be enough to curb his own appetite for needing to direct his anger at somebody.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

the biggest problem with your logic is that Sasuke's only guarantees what he is allegedly out to put an end to under a different umbrella. Let's say Sasuke manages to put an end to the current system, what then? He has no way of eliminating the hatred that would undoubtedly be directed towards him, nor can he guarantee that the end of the former system will be enough to curb his own appetite for needing to direct his anger at somebody.
I'm confident Sasuke has a plan to direct the anger of other villages. Being brutally honest was always Sasukes forte. All he has to do is place the new leaders under genjutsu and over time he will shape the Ninja world into a peaceful place with no fighting. Something Itachi always wanted and Sasukes anger will subside.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Clearly the current system equals the old system. Something like the SA could happen in the old system... :|
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

the biggest problem with your logic is that Sasuke's only guarantees what he is allegedly out to put an end to under a different umbrella. Let's say Sasuke manages to put an end to the current system, what then? He has no way of eliminating the hatred that would undoubtedly be directed towards him, nor can he guarantee that the end of the former system will be enough to curb his own appetite for needing to direct his anger at somebody.
Direct all their hatred towards him, they will have a lifelong common enemy, they will work together to rise against that single common enemy, just like this war, except for the fact that it'll last a while
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Direct all their hatred towards him, they will have a lifelong common enemy, they will work together to rise against that single common enemy, just like this war, except for the fact that it'll last a while
it still defeats the purpose of what Sasuke alleges will be the product of his agenda, since he is supposedly claiming to be the savior that will rescue the villages from their darkness. It's stupid, for the simple fact that it'll still exist.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Direct all their hatred towards him, they will have a lifelong common enemy, they will work together to rise against that single common enemy, just like this war, except for the fact that it'll last a while
Already been done. The whole shinobi world united to fight Obito then Madara.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Lol. And sasuke's plan is what exactly? Oh wait. You don't even know. The man speaks of peace and no hatred yet the first thing he wants to do to achieve it is kill ppl. That makes a lot of sense lol.


Funny thing is that the system already changed. Can't have world wars if it's already 1 world order. I e. The shinobi alliance. What makes it even worse is that selfish sauce is keeping them in i.t. despite them already changing the system and running the risk of everyone in the world turning into a Zetsu.

Is that the revolution? Naruto/kakashi/sakura/sasuke being the last humans on the face of the planet? Let this go down in history as the umpteenth time the entire world had to bend over backwards for self entitled uchiha.

History just loves repeating itself.
 
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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Naruto is not defending they system he is defending his friends and comrades. The alliance started because everyone was defending their right to not have their lives controlled by Madara and Obito. Naruto has said on many occasions that things need to change. He has been thinking about peace for a while and in his own small way has been trying to use his ability of TNJ to try to reason with people and listen to them in order to change things.

He has been considering this more seriously since Juraiya, who was the closest thing to a father to him, died. He felt that Juraiya left this task to him to continue. He is smart enough to know he does not have all of the answers and is willing to listen to other people's complaints about the current system and their ideas.

Sasuke on the other hand is thinking of this for about this for about 5 minutes in comparison to Naruto. He thinks the way to peace is to kill the kages and anyone who opposes him, destroy everything and start from scratch with him in charge. No talking to anyone, no listening to anyone, just my way or the highway. At least that how it seems from his current actions. Control everything and everyone. Doesn't sound much different than Madara, Obito and Kaguya who thought they knew what was best for everyone.

At least Naruto learns from his mistakes and is willing to admit he doesn't have all of the answers. Sasuke has learned nothing from Madara's and Obito's mistakes and deaths. He doesn't even realize that the alliance was not formed to preserve the old way of life, the alliance was formed to prevent Madara and Obito from trying to control everyone's lives.

Sasuke is arrogant, selfish and emotionally immature. He is trying to make up for the fact that he has not been in control of his life for most of his life. He spent most of his life controlled by Itachi's actions trying to gain power so he could kill him. Now he is trying to control everyone else to absolve himself of guilt for having killed him. He refuses to see that Itachi loved the village and this would be the last thing that Itachi would want him to do.

Itachi left Sasuke for Naruto to deal with for exactly that reason. Naruto promised Itachi that he would try like hell to change Sasuke, but he also promised him that if he couldn't change him he wouldn't let Sasuke destroy the village. If Sasuke would just wake everyone up and talk to them he would realize that many things have changed and even the Kages have changed but he wont take that chance because he wants power and control.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Think of it like this. The leaf is slimy place and the leaders are racist, brutes who used Itachi to slaughter all the Uchiha. To take vengeance. I'll burn what they love to the ground.
So the whole world deserves to have their leaders killed simply because of what happened to the Uchihas? Yet seem things happened in the Mist and one of the Hated KKG users became leader and changed the village yet Sasuke ignorant of everything feels he should kill the leader to change things.
 
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let me tell you something. sasuke wants to change tthe system that the ones like him created, by killing good guys who were merely neutral casualties. hashirama, despite being more powerful than madara, offered him a chance of redemption that madara refused. ashura and indra did the same. all the kages were neutral casualties, from the distrust that appeared between the humans because of indra, madara, sasuke, everyone did their best to protect their village. they saw that even friends turn their back. what indra did, what madara did, what sasuke did, they all did mistakes. now sasuke does it again. if hagoromo chose ashura as leader of ninshu, he fought ashura. he should`ve earned it, not fight the one who won it. it`s like you apply for a job, you don`t win it, and you go beat the one who won it. is that fair ? can u doubt hagoromo`s decision ? but stubborn ppl never learn, never quit.. sasuke will die.. this is the truth.
 

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Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

I don't think he's so much defending the system as much as preventing Sasuke from murdering the kages, whom he'd undoubtedly count as his comrades. He's the type that'd want to change it by convincing people, not by forcing it like Sasuke.
 

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He is still a juvenile with naive and childish dreams. Everything Itachi tried to teach him went right in one ear and out the other.
Trying to defeat Naruto and kill the Kage is all the proof we need that Sasuke has learned nothing and not grown a bit in neither stature or wisedom in the last 600 chapters.

Kishi has pretty much ruined this character, i dont know why but he has.
My opinion, you dont have to like it.
I agree, Sasuke's characterization has been ruined beyond repair.
 
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