Chapter 692 Sasuke's Revolution

[kaiyokoon]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Um are you even following the same series as we are killing the 5 kage and tailed beast isn't exactly kosher

To be fair, he's not repeating Madara, his plan is much much worse than Madara's. Rather than giving everyone their own dream world to live in blissful illusion he just wants to force everyone into peace, and by peace I mean Sasuke's version of peace which is just dictatorship and nothing more.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Don't over complicate things.

Sasuke saw what happened to Madara so he won't repeat it.

How is he different from him?

 

[Ldude]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Sasuke is the only one who can change it. Naruto is too dumb to do anything but throw rasengans.

 

[Filo]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

I think he is a great candidate to change it because he can defend it with his power!

 

[Narutobirama]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Sasuke is the only one who can change it. Naruto is too dumb to do anything but throw rasengans.

System should be changed by people. Power should be used to help them achieve the change to not force it upon others.

 

[kaiyokoon]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Sasuke is the only one who can change it. Naruto is too dumb to do anything but throw rasengans.

Defend what exactly? His dictatorship? Because the only one in the world that wants Sasuke's plan is Sasuke. That is not defending, that is forcing his ideals on the entire world and calling it peace.

 

[Umari Senju]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

I think he is a great candidate to change it because he can defend it with his power!

Naruto also has the power to defend change with his power. That is beside the point. Sasuke is right in that a revolution is needed. But the right path ends there for him. How he is going about it not so much.

If he and Naruto were to work together the way Hashirama and Madara once did. Then the possibilities could be endless.

Naruto is an idealist, and Sasuke is a realist. Sasuke's view would keep Naruto's ideals grounded in reality and what is actually achieivable between them both. Naruto has the charisma and the love of the people so he can convince them of Sasuke's points as well as his own. Though Naruto the people would begin to trust Sasuke so long as they see he actually working toward a peacful resolution WITHOUT further bloodshed.

Hasn't there been enough killing already?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

After all these encounters he is still defending the OLD system.. which I strongly dislike just look at what Minato his own father stated here

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There shall always be a leader who seeks for power and will attack other villages. Naruto doesn't understand that.
People who seek for power will go for the biju's because they are powerhouses. Naruto doesn't understand that.
Sasuke wants to destroy the Old system and create one that can be never tainted in darkness.

Heck even the Kages admitted that they created this current predicament and failed.. Another Danzo will pop up, Another Tobirama will pop up. Which will create people such as Madara, Obito etc. who will go after the beasts in order to gain power. History shall repeat itself.

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So, of course, the solution is to create a dictatorship and killing everyone that gets in your way, surely that is the solution.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Do you know why the Akatsuki existed? :|

They captured tailed beasts, only Uchiha can control them.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Compared to Sasuke's plan Naruto's seems a lot more reasonable.He doesn't plan on killing to solve problems for one.

 

[Vapid]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

Compared to Sasuke's plan Naruto's seems a lot more reasonable.

And counter-intuitive.

 

[take it easy]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Naruto is the only one who can change it. Sasuke is too dumb to do anything but throw amaterasu.

Agree with you.

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Naruto is an idealist, and Sasuke is a realist.

How Sasuke realist ? He's idealist even more than Naruto... He believe that only his way right. He believe that only power can bring world peace... How this realism?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

They captured tailed beasts, only Uchiha can control them.

*Cough*Hashirama*Cough*.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

1- I don't think Sasuke's trying to unite some people...
2- If and only if one country becomes enough powerful that none can stand up to it individually or by making an alliance, then it's possible...
And the ideal condition Sasuke's facing can never happen in real life...



Madara's eyes and plan were the reason Akatsuki existed... Excluding Uchiha, none of the akatsuki was capable of handling a Bijuu...

Akatsuki was originally a group formed by Yahiko that protested the wars waged by several villages in their country.

 

[EternalDarkness]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

After all these encounters he is still defending the OLD system.. which I strongly dislike just look at what Minato his own father stated here

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There shall always be a leader who seeks for power and will attack other villages. Naruto doesn't understand that.
People who seek for power will go for the biju's because they are powerhouses. Naruto doesn't understand that.
Sasuke wants to destroy the Old system and create one that can be never tainted in darkness.

Heck even the Kages admitted that they created this current predicament and failed.. Another Danzo will pop up, Another Tobirama will pop up. Which will create people such as Madara, Obito etc. who will go after the beasts in order to gain power. History shall repeat itself.

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u don`t understand shit, in all history since bijuus were created with COAT there were only 2 perfect jiinchuriki`s, and only 1 person that changed the bijuu`s. hagoromo told the bijuus that a boy will appear, but it`s hard to believe in fairy tales and words without back up. humans are asses and ****ing idiots. but in honoha the will of fire from 1st hokage passed on every generation. bijuus now MET the boy, and they are willing to change their thinking about humanity because of him, and humanity about the bijuus. there won`t be another perfect jiinchuriki. because there won`t be another damaged person like naruto or bee. the most damaged ppl are the wisest, the loneliest ppl are the kindest, the saddest ppl smile the bightest. and if it will exist another person like these. no one will be able to controll the beasts as soon as the last uchiha was eradicated. NOT TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING STARTED FROM AN UCHIHA. STILL DOESN`T MEAN U MUST ERADICATE THE BIJUU. UR THINKING IS FLAWED. you`re saying something like i`m ur neighbour, and i want to buy your house and the land you own, but you don`t want to sell it to me so i kill you to be able to buy it at auction from the city hall. i said it and i say it again, maybe you will shove it in ur ****ing brain, NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT OVER OTHER`S LIFE, NO MATTER IF IT`S A RHINO, A CROCODILE, A TIGER, A HUMAN, ETC. those that kill but don`t have a mind of their own are forgiven, the murder is made by the one who knows what he is doing and he`s doing it.

AND I`M SORRY BUT I WILL ****ING INSULT YOU, U ****ING ******, HASHIRAMA CAUGHT KURAMA AND SEALED IT INTO HIS WIFE SO OTHERS DON`T USE IT, HE DIDN`T USED OR CONTROLED KURAMA.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Hokages r only military leaders in service to the nation. Even if they wanna become allies they must petition the Daimyo

the Kage seems to be given autonomy to run the military and village as they see fit, even when it comes to aligning themselves with another village. They only need a Daimyo's permission to get funds for repairs or going to war against somebody.

 

[Kurama999]

Re: System needs change but Sasuke should not be the one to change it

Izanami vs tnj

 

[Xāvî1]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

it may be bullshit but its better than sasuke's crap!

 

[WalksInShadows]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

a person would have to be a moron to believe that imprint was agreeing with Sasuke in any way. If Minato supported nihilistic views of changing things, he'd be fully supporting Obito and Madara's efforts to do that. The statement came from observing the state of things as it was.

Furthermore, i don't see how Naruto defending ppl's lives translates to him defending the system. Gamamaru prophesied that Naruto will lead a revolution that was never seen before.

Hah, interesting, i forgot about that.

Of course, the irony comes from the fact that if it was Minato in Sasuke's place with the same plan, everyone would be like: "Yeah, awesome plan!" "Minato FTW!"

and how do you know "everyone" will just cosign that if it was Minato's plan? It's stupid no matter who it was coming from.

After all these encounters he is still defending the OLD system.. which I strongly dislike just look at what Minato his own father stated here

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There shall always be a leader who seeks for power and will attack other villages. Naruto doesn't understand that.
People who seek for power will go for the biju's because they are powerhouses. Naruto doesn't understand that.
Sasuke wants to destroy the Old system and create one that can be never tainted in darkness.

Heck even the Kages admitted that they created this current predicament and failed.. Another Danzo will pop up, Another Tobirama will pop up. Which will create people such as Madara, Obito etc. who will go after the beasts in order to gain power. History shall repeat itself.

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you're clearly twisting the words of that chakra imprint to fit your argument. He was talking about how the system needed to be changed because it created tragedies that ended up in someone going dark side. Nothing more.

Having one leader protecting the system is better then 5 leaders who will end up disagreeing with each other and starting wars to protect their village U_U

Sasuke wants the change, because he knows the previous kages fault, with that knowledge he can rewrite their mistakes

Sasuke accosted a Kage's brother and attacked multiple dignitaries on neutral ground. He's done plenty himself.

And Sasuke's point of view is one who lost his family because of the old system and tries to change that and won't let that ever happen again. That doesn't make Sasuke a faillure for actually knowing the real truth.

the thing that makes Sasuke a failure is failing to learn from what he knows.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Re: Naruto is defending a bullshit system.

I think Naruto wants to end the ninja system too, but with Jesus no Jutsu instead of everyone else's methods.