Chapter 692 Sasuke's Revolution

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People don't like to admit that sasuke is very very immature. He acts like a child. It's quite annoying...it's actually the same as Madara and pre tnj Obito. Acting out because the world isn't the way they think it should be. Taking revenge out on every person because of what happened to a loved one.
 

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People don't like to admit that sasuke is very very immature. He acts like a child. It's quite annoying...it's actually the same as Madara and pre tnj Obito. Acting out because the world isn't the way they think it should be. Taking revenge out on every person because of what happened to a loved one.
Well at least Madara and Obito had legit reasons for acting crazy. Sasuke is just a baby trying to be important.
 

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People don't like to admit that sasuke is very very immature. He acts like a child. It's quite annoying...it's actually the same as Madara and pre tnj Obito. Acting out because the world isn't the way they think it should be. Taking revenge out on every person because of what happened to a loved one.
You seem to forget that the people you mentioned tend to want change something if they don't like it.

Nothing wrong with that.
 
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You seem to forget that the people you mentioned tend to want change something if they don't like it.

Nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with change, in fact its a good thing, but it's the way you go about it. Sasuke is *****ing and whining and fighting anyone in his way, you thin thats a good way of making change?
 

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Nothing wrong with change, in fact its a good thing, but it's the way you go about it. Sasuke is *****ing and whining and fighting anyone in his way, you thin thats a good way of making change?
You seem to forget Sasuke's a Machiavellian character. He may whine or complain but he undoubtedly moves forward to change things he doesn't like.

It may not be a good way of going about change. But at the end of the day his ends will justify his means. Or so he thinks.

We're going to witness Sasuke's downfall in these following chapters. Sasuke's biggest problem is his feeling of inferiority and ability to endure. Which both ironically make him stronger.
 

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Re: Chapter 692 proves Sasuke has not grown

If anyone is juvenile and childish in their dreams it's Naruto. He believes the system can still work, while Sasuke the realist has identified that it's failed and is actually taking action. Naruto was going to do the same crap over again.
This is completely and utterly wrong Trúth.

It has been stated time and time again that Naruto is going to "change the system". He wanted to change the hyuuga and remove their system of branding their family members and using jutsu to kill them with said brand. The only way that will work is if he causes the threat of theft of the byakugon. Otherwise the only way to do that would be to reform the jutsu so that it can not also be used to kill them by main family. Also all would have to wear it, this would make sure the main family couldn't have their eyes stolen.
 

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You seem to forget Sasuke's a Machiavellian character. He may whine or complain but he undoubtedly moves forward to change things he doesn't like.

It may not be a good way of going about change. But at the end of the day his ends will justify his means. Or so he thinks.

We're going to witness Sasuke's downfall in these following chapters. Sasuke's biggest problem is his feeling of inferiority and ability to endure. Which both ironically make him stronger.
Yes, thats ok, every manga needs it's villain and a rebel, but why did Kishi write Sasuke as such a cliché bad-guy? He could at least have written him into a more original "lost soul".
 

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Yes, thats ok, every manga needs it's villain and a rebel, but why did Kishi write Sasuke as such a cliché bad-guy? He could at least have written him into a more original "lost soul".
You should talk to Kishi about that. Also ask your brain why you think this way? Maybe than you will find your answer. I mean I can only hope.
 

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Yes, thats ok, every manga needs it's villain and a rebel, but why did Kishi write Sasuke as such a cliché bad-guy? He could at least have written him into a more original "lost soul".
Most characters in writing can be considered cliche. You're expecting too much from this series. Kishi wrote Sasuke to the best of his abilities and honestly I think Sasuke is decently written anti-hero by shonen standards.
 

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Most characters in writing can be considered cliche. You're expecting too much from this series. Kishi wrote Sasuke to the best of his abilities and honestly I think Sasuke is decently written anti-hero by shonen standards.
I'm comparing Sasuke to other character Kishi has written, so iæ expecting Kishi to uphold his owen standard. Example- Orochimaru, Madara, Nagato or even Obito, they all had more character to them, more personality and where not all cliche. Actually Orochimaru is one of the best written villains in any manga i have read, so why such a far cry from him to Sasuke. Same writer, different standard. Get my point? Thats why i say Kishi ruined Sasuke, it almost seems like he did it for the heck of it...
 

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I'm comparing Sasuke to other character Kishi has written, so iæ expecting Kishi to uphold his owen standard. Example- Orochimaru, Madara, Nagato or even Obito, they all had more character to them, more personality and where not all cliche. Actually Orochimaru is one of the best written villains in any manga i have read, so why such a far cry from him to Sasuke. Same writer, different standard. Get my point? Thats why i say Kishi ruined Sasuke, it almost seems like he did it for the heck of it...
The problems is that Sasuke isn't intended to be a villain. He never was, he's an anti-hero through and through. You can't place Sasuke in a category of Good or Bad / Hero or Villain. As he's a little bit of both. He's chaotic good. He doesn't comply to anyone's morals or values except his own nor does he take on any others.

Orochimaru may be one of the best written characters in any manga you've read but to me that goes to none other than.

Naraku from Inuyasha:
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Well written backstory, motives, and amazing manipulative prowess.

Personality-wise, Sasuke has an interesting personality. It's fueled by his conviction and inferiority complex. He drove himself into the role of an Avenger seeking retribution. This led him into darkness and despite knowing full well of this he still moves forward.

He reminds me a bit of Zaheer:
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Except Zaheer is a lot more intriguing and overall better revolutionist.
 
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Re: Chapter 692 proves Sasuke has not grown

If anyone is juvenile and childish in their dreams it's Naruto. He believes the system can still work, while Sasuke the realist has identified that it's failed and is actually taking action. Naruto was going to do the same crap over again.
Yeah i agree in some point, but naruto already changed the kages and the folder ninja.
Narutos real power is that he can change people from the bottom of their hearts, only sasuke is near immun against this.
They all learn from naruto what is really relevant to create peace.

But i understand sasuke as well, i look whats happen between them two.
Maybe a they make a balance between their paths and then real peace will created.
 

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Revolution is a mystery
Full of change that no one see's
Clock makes a fool of history
Yesterday's so long ago
Don't agree with what I know
Tomorrow is the place to be

I see the line in the sand
Time to find out who I am
Looking back to see where I stand?

Revolution
Revolution

See my reflection change
Nothing ever stays the same
Don't you know that is the game

Well you know what I need
Everything of what he see's
Hallucination, unforseen​
 

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Re: Chapter 692 proves Sasuke has not grown

Naruto dream is what everyone has fought hoping to achieve. True Peace everyone in agreement, the first hokage tried to bring everyone together but Madara stop the progress. Creating the villages brought multiple clans together ending clan wars, but created village wars. The allied Shonobi group is where the bringing of all villages together ending village wars and work towards true peace. Naruto is going something that the Six Paths mother tried to achieve , but was corrupted by power. The sage told Naruto he received the charka like his mother and was not changed by the power. Naruto has the ability to change the heart of people.
 

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Naruto dream is what everyone has fought hoping to achieve. True Peace everyone in agreement, the first hokage tried to bring everyone together but Madara stop the progress. Creating the villages brought multiple clans together ending clan wars, but created village wars. The allied Shonobi group is where the bringing of all villages together ending village wars and work towards true peace. Naruto is going something that the Six Paths mother tried to achieve , but was corrupted by power. The sage told Naruto he received the charka like his mother and was not changed by the power. Naruto has the ability to change the heart of people.
Naruto has Faith an thats what gives him strength. NOTE “faith without works is dead “
 
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