[Discussion] Can beat Zoro beat Law?
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2 very simple questions, please answer them as short as possible:
1) If you believe that law is unable to bisect seastone with his Devil Fruit, do you still believe that there was seastone on the hull of Smoker's ship when Law cut it in pieces ?
2) Law was able to swap out a barrage of bullets coming to him with snowflakes. When Vergo dashed at him he was only meters away. Law's room can be as big as a mountain. Knowing all that and the fact that Law can teleport within his own room. Why do you think he has difficulties taking away swords ? He has been shown taking phones, hearts, bullets. Why are Zoro's swords the exception ?
It's official there are too few air holes in Tobi's mask. Everyone with a Tobi avatar has officially lost their damn minds.
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While I agree that Luffy does not mid diff Zoro (or Law for that matter) manga and feat wise suggest that Gear 4th can do exactly that...
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Ok im a Zoro fanboy but i wont say that he wins or loses. Weve seen Law's full power and how strong his haki is. We haven't seen shit from Zoro yet. So how can any of you even argue this at the moment? I think Zoro would win only if his Haki is stronger, which I believe it is, but nobody can prove it yet. So you all should shut the **** up until we see Zoro go all out. When hes done beating the shogun im sure he will be above Law.
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On topic: : Law wins, mid-difficulty.
He is very strong , i admit that . He has a good devil fruit and has decent haki to defeat Vergo and keep up in a fight with Doffy and Fujitora but calling him emperor level is a stretch. He couldn't even defeat Doflamingo himself and your giving him a bounty higher than luffys? Or are you saying that will be his bounty EOS?
Don't you think your overhyping Law? Emperor level with 2 billion beri bounty? What a load of @#$@
He is very strong , i admit that . He has a good devil fruit and has decent haki to defeat Vergo and keep up in a fight with Doffy and Fujitora but calling him emperor level is a stretch. He couldn't even defeat Doflamingo himself and your giving him a bounty higher than luffys? Or are you saying that will be his bounty EOS?
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Law, easy win.
Zoro has shown that he couldn't keep up with Law's speed (teleporting) both physically and using CoO. Law in my opinion would easily do exactly what he do to Vergo on Zoro.
Having caught up on this whole thread, I'll like to throw my own pence into the mix:
It was a metaphor
Not all ships have seastone. The marines travel the Grandline SOLELY using the Grandline. They travel to the second half by passing through Marejois (over the red line). They only sail through the calm belt when going to the 4 seas. Why would they go into the calm belt where there is no wind to travel around.. They want to get to places as fast as possible, if it's in the Grandline, they are sailing there in the Grandline. Also, it IS a rare material and we have seen many battleships... It would be highly illogical for them all to have their hull covered in seastone.
It was my understanding that Law's fruit was able to do whatever the **** he wants in his room. Also, seastone only effects DF users when in contact with them. Otherwise it's just like the sea, Aokiji could still freeze them using his powers and they would freeze. But they have been stated to be as hard as diamond and no one has been shown to be able to cut that. Smokers ship could have had seastone, not saying that it didn't or it's not possible that it did. But Law's fruit allows him to slice it in half. Don't forget, it's not breaking the ship, more splitting it like how Buggy splits himself.
Vergo in my opinion was quite clearly portrayed and displayed as the strongest executive. One of Doffy's most trusted crew members AND the most proficient in CoA. He may not have had CoO mastery, obviously didn't have future sight. But to say he wasn't at least proficient in it? He blocked and dodged Smokers attacks. As for CoA, he tanked Sanji's attacks as if they were nothing. Sanji who has been highlighted to be more CoO focused could realise right after that first (maybe it was second) interaction and commented that Vergo was like a mass amount of iron or something.
Lastly. Garp. He's the perfect example where rank means nothing. He wanted to keep his status as a VA purely because he didn't want the responsibility that comes with a higher rank, but we all know he's much more hella strong than any VA or even admiral! Not to mention Smoker himself, we get introduced to him when he's a captain? He was much stronger than any other captain and then some! Rank means nothing in a battle, it could ultimately come down to simple match up.
Zoro has shown that he couldn't keep up with Law's speed (teleporting) both physically and using CoO. Law in my opinion would easily do exactly what he do to Vergo on Zoro.
Having caught up on this whole thread, I'll like to throw my own pence into the mix:
It was a metaphor
Not all ships have seastone. The marines travel the Grandline SOLELY using the Grandline. They travel to the second half by passing through Marejois (over the red line). They only sail through the calm belt when going to the 4 seas. Why would they go into the calm belt where there is no wind to travel around.. They want to get to places as fast as possible, if it's in the Grandline, they are sailing there in the Grandline. Also, it IS a rare material and we have seen many battleships... It would be highly illogical for them all to have their hull covered in seastone.
It was my understanding that Law's fruit was able to do whatever the **** he wants in his room. Also, seastone only effects DF users when in contact with them. Otherwise it's just like the sea, Aokiji could still freeze them using his powers and they would freeze. But they have been stated to be as hard as diamond and no one has been shown to be able to cut that. Smokers ship could have had seastone, not saying that it didn't or it's not possible that it did. But Law's fruit allows him to slice it in half. Don't forget, it's not breaking the ship, more splitting it like how Buggy splits himself.
Vergo in my opinion was quite clearly portrayed and displayed as the strongest executive. One of Doffy's most trusted crew members AND the most proficient in CoA. He may not have had CoO mastery, obviously didn't have future sight. But to say he wasn't at least proficient in it? He blocked and dodged Smokers attacks. As for CoA, he tanked Sanji's attacks as if they were nothing. Sanji who has been highlighted to be more CoO focused could realise right after that first (maybe it was second) interaction and commented that Vergo was like a mass amount of iron or something.
Lastly. Garp. He's the perfect example where rank means nothing. He wanted to keep his status as a VA purely because he didn't want the responsibility that comes with a higher rank, but we all know he's much more hella strong than any VA or even admiral! Not to mention Smoker himself, we get introduced to him when he's a captain? He was much stronger than any other captain and then some! Rank means nothing in a battle, it could ultimately come down to simple match up.
This isn't even a mid difficulty matchup. Law fodderizes him with ease, even in the field of swordsmanship expertise, Law trumps Zoro in skill and power. Call me when Zoro can slash an island in half. Law is comparable to a Yonko commander, whereas Zoro is around a Vice Admiral level. The gap is enormous.
