Byakugan VS Sharingan
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FearxDeath
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Ahh but we dont know if the Byakugan has a 2nd stage as well since we havent seen much development from it, keep that in mind.
Byakugan>>>>3tomoe
Side note: Dont bother waisting anymore time with that shelke guy or dante! They are the 2 worst Uchiha supporters on the site (they think they know what they are talking about)! There are only like 5 real uchiha fans that you should even give time to.
Side note: Dont bother waisting anymore time with that shelke guy or dante! They are the 2 worst Uchiha supporters on the site (they think they know what they are talking about)! There are only like 5 real uchiha fans that you should even give time to.
Don't know why you bother to bump months old threads when the OP is cleary bias and or delusional to the byakugans abilities/limits.
Lol yeah because Sasuke being weaker than Itachi in his area of expertise
is such a big deal to your thread. I don't know why I never replied to this. I think I just took it as you admitting you were wrong. The poll seems to think so as well.
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Sharingan....it's superior to the Byakugan in many ways i can't even name.....i can even argue for the 3 tome Sharingan...
Susanoo
A Hyuga needs to come close enough in order to turn off a person's Chakra system and Susanoo being made of Chakra doesn't mean they can stop the Susanoo just by touching it...they need go throw the Susanoo with pure force and no Hyuuga has enough force to go throw Ribcage Susanoo let alone any other form of Susanoo.....the Byakugan is like an x-ray which see throw your whole boy in other words it helps a Hyuga see the flow of their opponent's Chakra system then that will help them hit the right places to turn off the system of their Chakra, but since Susanoo is made by the users Chakra then they need to go throw the Susanoo itself and then turn off their Chakra in other words a Hyuga can't do anything against Susanoo or it's weapons.
Amaterasu
There is nothing a Hyuug can do about this Jutsu obviously since you need a great speed like BM Naruto or Minato or the Railkage and those guys are the fastest ninjas to ever live and no Hyuga is nowhere their speed which the mean reason why a Hyuga is useless against just an attack...Amaterasu hits the place where the user's sight is focused on which makes it difficult to dodge...even if a Hyuga was to react fast enough to do Rotation then the Amaterasu will still burn throw the Rotation since it's made of Chakra and kill the person...Amaterasu has soon it can burn throw Chakra it's whhich an example when Sasuke fought the Railkage who had a Bijuu level Chakra and it's still burn throw he's armor which was made of a Chakra and when Sasuke used Katon on Itachi and Itachi used the Amaterasu to burn the Katon which also made of Chakra...it other words the Hyugas don't have the speed to dodge Amaterasu and their Rotation is useless since Amaterasu can burn Chakra itself.
Genjutsu
Nothing in the Manga states that Genjusu or Tsukuyomi is useless against a Hyuga so until then they get one-shot with it....Itachi already stated only a bloodline of the Uchiha can hope to break throw Tsukuomi even a Sharingan users like Danzo and Kakashi were caught in Genjutsu without even knowing they were in one...Uchiha Genjutsu are instant especially Itachi's Genjutsu which means you're dead or defeated in that instant you were put under that Genjutsu...closing your eyes is even more useless since you can't use your Byakugan and will be too blind to fight a powerful foe.
A Hyuga needs to come close enough in order to turn off a person's Chakra system and Susanoo being made of Chakra doesn't mean they can stop the Susanoo just by touching it...they need go throw the Susanoo with pure force and no Hyuuga has enough force to go throw Ribcage Susanoo let alone any other form of Susanoo.....the Byakugan is like an x-ray which see throw your whole boy in other words it helps a Hyuga see the flow of their opponent's Chakra system then that will help them hit the right places to turn off the system of their Chakra, but since Susanoo is made by the users Chakra then they need to go throw the Susanoo itself and then turn off their Chakra in other words a Hyuga can't do anything against Susanoo or it's weapons.
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Amaterasu
There is nothing a Hyuug can do about this Jutsu obviously since you need a great speed like BM Naruto or Minato or the Railkage and those guys are the fastest ninjas to ever live and no Hyuga is nowhere their speed which the mean reason why a Hyuga is useless against just an attack...Amaterasu hits the place where the user's sight is focused on which makes it difficult to dodge...even if a Hyuga was to react fast enough to do Rotation then the Amaterasu will still burn throw the Rotation since it's made of Chakra and kill the person...Amaterasu has soon it can burn throw Chakra it's whhich an example when Sasuke fought the Railkage who had a Bijuu level Chakra and it's still burn throw he's armor which was made of a Chakra and when Sasuke used Katon on Itachi and Itachi used the Amaterasu to burn the Katon which also made of Chakra...it other words the Hyugas don't have the speed to dodge Amaterasu and their Rotation is useless since Amaterasu can burn Chakra itself.
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Genjutsu
Nothing in the Manga states that Genjusu or Tsukuyomi is useless against a Hyuga so until then they get one-shot with it....Itachi already stated only a bloodline of the Uchiha can hope to break throw Tsukuomi even a Sharingan users like Danzo and Kakashi were caught in Genjutsu without even knowing they were in one...Uchiha Genjutsu are instant especially Itachi's Genjutsu which means you're dead or defeated in that instant you were put under that Genjutsu...closing your eyes is even more useless since you can't use your Byakugan and will be too blind to fight a powerful foe.
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FearxDeath
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All hail the mighty wall of text...
1) I list out several ways the hyuga can go on the offensive against a Susano... you didnt address a single one.
2) The hyuga may not be near there speeds, not that I am agreeing with that statement, but the Hyuga do get a warning that the Amaterasu is coming when the Uchiha starts to mold there chakra. With the same level of Intel that the Raikage had it would be incredibly easy for the Hyuga to dodge an Amaterasu.
3) It has already been said throughout the Manga that the way to escape a genjutsu is to distrupt your chakra. This can be done with the help of a friend like when Chiyo and Sakura got Naruto out of Itachi's Genjutsu. Or by ones self, Jiraiya even tried to teach Naruto how to get oneself out of a Genjutsu by personally distrupting ones own chakra but Naruto didnt have the chakra control to do it, Hyuga on the other hand are masters of Chakra control to the point that they can release chakra from chakra points in there body. It stands to reason that they can break themselves out of any genjutsu.
And there you have it...
Which eye led it's clan to be above all others?
Which eye was so feared that it had a flee on sight order?
Which eye could be so strong that even if not every member of the clan had it, they'd still be the strongest.
Sharingan >Byakugan and it's obvious.
It has done all this and with only 6 Uchiha's ever getting past the 3 tomoe.
The Uchiha clan was the strongest, because of 3 tomoe, or maybe even lesser Sharingan. They were always stronger than the Hyuuga, who actually have every member born with the eye.
Uchiha>>Hyuuga on average meaning that the average Uchiha member> the average Hyuuga member.
Not even Kishi cares enough to fully address the eye.
Which eye was so feared that it had a flee on sight order?
Which eye could be so strong that even if not every member of the clan had it, they'd still be the strongest.
Sharingan >Byakugan and it's obvious.
It has done all this and with only 6 Uchiha's ever getting past the 3 tomoe.
The Uchiha clan was the strongest, because of 3 tomoe, or maybe even lesser Sharingan. They were always stronger than the Hyuuga, who actually have every member born with the eye.
Uchiha>>Hyuuga on average meaning that the average Uchiha member> the average Hyuuga member.
Not even Kishi cares enough to fully address the eye.
Inert Brian
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3 Tomoe Sharingan > Byakugan.
3 Tomoe Sharingan grants Genjutsu, copying Ninjutsu & Taijutsu.
Byakugan is only good for sensory and Taijutsu.
Sharingan genjutsu > Byakugan
3 Tomoe Sharingan grants Genjutsu, copying Ninjutsu & Taijutsu.
Byakugan is only good for sensory and Taijutsu.
Sharingan genjutsu > Byakugan
FearxDeath
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Not even wasting my time giving this response any attention, Sharingan sucks.
1) Led its Clan to be above all others? What? The Hyuga isnt a Mercenary Clan, the Uchiha was. Thats like saying a Cop is a better shooter than a hunter because he is the Cheif of Police...
2) Again, this is more of the same. The eyes was merely a way of identifying the Clan, the Clan was happen to have alot of powerful ninja. If you stick to your logic then people like Sasuke and Madara would be fodder if they didnt have Sharingans? Ofcourse they wouldnt, they are intrinsically strong ninja's. The Sharingan is just their weapon of choice, it is not the source of their power. This is evident by the fact that Itachi solokinged 3 Uchiha police squad members by himself without breaking a sweat... The man makes the eye, the eye doesnt make the man.
3) This line of questioning is becoming very redundant...
To your last comment:
1) Hyuga were known as the strong clan of the leaf
2) People watching the Chunin Exams seemed to think Neji vs Sasuke was a pretty fair fight. With Sasuke being a genius and all you would expect him to wipe the floor wit Hyuga scum. And yet he couldnt even surpass Naruto who only beat Neji mopped the floor with.
Really? They were both war clans. What do you think the shinobi war was about? Every clan fought, the Hyuuga are no exception.
There are geniuses in all clans, yes. However that's not what completely determines the strength of the clan. The Uchiha were the strongest along with the Senju before Madara, the first MS user, even came into play. The eye is a tool, yes, but there are some tools that are better than others. This can be proven by the fact that every Uchiha member was considered a genius.
Also the genius of each clan differs greatly. Just try comparing Itachi to Neji, the genius among the Hyuuga.
Not to mention Sasuke only had 2 tomoe at the time.
They were the strongest after the Uchiha died.
Sasuke was a genius, but he wasn't considered one among his clan; Sasuke had tons of potential though.
Again compare Itachi to Neji, then you can see who was the true genius.
Uchiha> Hyuuga. Why do you think they were the strongest clan even without any MS users?
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The manga has clearly portrayed the Sharingan as being superior; the Hyuuga also aren't relevant to the plot (unlike the Uchiha)...
The rotation of a so called Hyuuga genius was also struggling against the Juubi's simple Mokuton....
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The rotation of a so called Hyuuga genius was also struggling against the Juubi's simple Mokuton....
FearxDeath
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I see, so because the Uchiha have gotten more Face time then any other clan, they must be the strongest ones... If only logic worked that way.
"Juubi's Simple Mokuton" lol that made me laugh, You know the conversation isnt going to go anywhere when someone describes the juubi's techniques as "Simple" as if they are weak... By the way this is the same technique Naruto (Person with more facetime than the Uchiha) would have died to if it wasnt for Hinata (A Hyuga). Logic FTW
And in that lies the irony of it. You start off your response by being openly ignorant to what is said in the thread, and yet you point out my blatent ignorance.
Yes, The Senju and the Uchiha gained renown for being the only ones to compete with one another. Thus when Villages (Not Clans, idk where you got the idea of every clan fighting) went to war against one another they would hire one of the prior mentioned clans to fight for them. Remember Villages are fighting, not random Clans.
Is that your way of double talking around my previous statement? I ask "Does the Eye make the ninja or does the ninja make the eye" and your response is both? Wait wait wait... If you can show me the scan where it says "Every Uchiha was considered to be a Genius" Then I will submitt my argument, if not then I dont think I respect you enough to continue this argument.
You seem to be harping on this Genius idea, you seem to keep trying to discredit the idea by mentioning how meaningless the title of genius is, in an attempt to what... counter the idea that Sasuke is a Genius level ninja? Is it not apparent that He was a Genius level ninja?
This is just ridicoulus statement.
Here is where the double talk becomes evident. You start off by saying the entire Uchiha Clan are genius's. Then you say that Sasuke isnt a genius but had great potential. Then you say that the level genius means different things from clan to clan. Then you say compare Neji to Itachi to understand what a true genius is, But we rarely saw Neji in PT2, all we know is that he was the only one to reach Chunin Level... How do I compare Neji to Itachi? But most importantly Why would I... You have invoked something called to fallacy of composition.
Itachi is a an extremely strong ninja, He is a Sharingan. THerefore everyone with a Sharingan is extremely strong ninja. But again, he Soloking'd 3 Uchiha when they questioned him about Shishui, so that shows that not all Uchiha are equal. And maybe Itachi being a strong ninja had nothing to do with his Sharingan.
1. The clans were for hire so they would fight against each other, not the villages. What I mean is that even if they hired them the clans were the ones doing the actual fighting. So yes, the clans were fighting against one another. Their motives for doing it doesn’t matter, the important thing is that the Uchiha and Senju were considered the strongest of all the clans.
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5. You were the one to bring up geniuses. The point I was trying to make was that the Uchiha have higher standards of what they consider a genius. Comparing Itachi and Neji was how I was making the point. Neji is considered a genius in the Hyuuga, but he pales in comparison to Itachi, a man considered a genius in the Uchiha, what does that tell you about the clans strength as a whole?
6. I never said Sasuke wasn’t a genius, I said he wasn’t considered one in his clan. For example, A man who is from a family of geniuses wouldn’t be given much attention if he got an A on a hard test, but if in school the students around him are more likely to call him a genius. I don’t know if I explained that correctly <.< .
7. I’m sorry if my other post, or even this one doesn’t make sense. It’s kind of hard for me to explain what I want to say when I’m in a hurry. But the point was that the Sharingan is what makes the Uchiha so strong, sure there are geniuses now and again, but even when there aren’t they remain at the top because of the Sharingan.
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Hyuuga weren’t on top until the massacre. Not to mention, Kakashi was really scared just for facing someone with the Sharingan in their blood. 3.
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Ok, I may have exaggerated a bit when saying they were all geniuses, but it’s basically the same concept. The eye is what makes them elite. Just look at how much Obito improved as soon as he got the Sharingan.
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Then there’s this saying that they were superior to others in the village, including the Hyuuga.4.
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The Uchiha were held in high regards and yet Itachi was the only one considered a genius within the clan. This can be seen by the constant praise he was given, while Sauce was never really given attention.
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It was expected for them to get such grades. Sasuke had more potential in that he had better eyes, and better chakra.5. You were the one to bring up geniuses. The point I was trying to make was that the Uchiha have higher standards of what they consider a genius. Comparing Itachi and Neji was how I was making the point. Neji is considered a genius in the Hyuuga, but he pales in comparison to Itachi, a man considered a genius in the Uchiha, what does that tell you about the clans strength as a whole?
6. I never said Sasuke wasn’t a genius, I said he wasn’t considered one in his clan. For example, A man who is from a family of geniuses wouldn’t be given much attention if he got an A on a hard test, but if in school the students around him are more likely to call him a genius. I don’t know if I explained that correctly <.< .
7. I’m sorry if my other post, or even this one doesn’t make sense. It’s kind of hard for me to explain what I want to say when I’m in a hurry. But the point was that the Sharingan is what makes the Uchiha so strong, sure there are geniuses now and again, but even when there aren’t they remain at the top because of the Sharingan.
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This whole topic is filled with posts of people who disagree with this comparison. I decided to keep it simple, instead of wasting time writing down an useless wall of text explaining the obvious. I deliberately refused to bother reading the first post, because whatever ass-pull or flawed logic it tries to bring into this discussion by comparing Sharingan with the Byakugan is just a waste of time. Like it or not, you know I'm right.