[Discussion] Blackbeard or akainu

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I was talking about Old sick Whitebard without prior injuries.In other words Whitebeard at the beginning of the MF arc. If he's healthy then obviously he beats any given admiral.
Old wb with no injuries loses to akainu is what ur saying ok I see where ur getting at. I 100% disagree based on the fight that occurred and the portrayal and the hype but I'm not gonna hog this thread since I already mentioned why I think akainu is not worthy to be fv. I just wanna kno if others think he will be
 

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Old wb with no injuries loses to akainu is what ur saying ok I see where ur getting at. I 100% disagree based on the fight that occurred and the portrayal and the hype but I'm not gonna hog this thread since I already mentioned why I think akainu is not worthy to be fv. I just wanna kno if others think he will be

Most important thing you forgot to read is the word SICK. To put it simply Old Whitebeard > Akainu > Old SICK Whitebeard. If you still don't get it then no one on this planet can make you understand it. I don't think there would be anyone that can't understand something simply as this so I am going to assume that you're simply pretending like you don't get it because you don't want Whitebeard to be weaker than Akainu regardless of his condition.
 
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Most important thing you forgot to read is the word SICK. To put it simply Old Whitebeard > Akainu > Old SICK Whitebeard. If you still don't get it then no on on this planet can make you understand it.
He's always a bit sick we have never seen him without having some sickness/disease like against shanks he was old and sick but not like marine ford where he is getting heart attacks every two second cuz he is fighting a lot of ppl at once and taking a lot of injuries etc. Only time he isn't sick at all is in the flashback with roger
 

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He's always a bit sick we have never seen him without having some sickness/disease like against shanks he was old and sick but not like marine ford where he is getting heart attacks every two second cuz he is fighting a lot of ppl at once. Only time he isn't sick is in the flashback with roger
He wasn't shown but that doesn't mean that healthy version of him doesn't exist.Crocodile fought him at one point in manga & he noted that he was in a pathetic state at MF. Whitebeard was shown to be in far far better shape than he was at MF when he was introduced. A clash of haki b/w him and Shanks was enough to split the heavens in two which explains how great his mastery over haki is. But same dude couldn't even block an attack from a fodder like Squard. And if Whitebeard used same level of haki on Aokiji then he'd have suffered significant damage. But Whitebeard couldn't bring fourth that level of powera at MF.

Since you're only interested in what we were shown: It'd be something like Old Whitebeard when he was introduced > Akainu > MF Whitebeard. So I guess it'll clear things up for you.
 

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He wasn't shown but that doesn't mean that healthy version of him doesn't exist.Crocodile fought him at one point in manga & he noted that he was in a pathetic state at MF. Whitebeard was shown to be in far far better shape than he was at MF when he was introduced. A clash of haki b/w him and Shanks was enough to split the heavens in two which explains how great his mastery over haki is. But same dude couldn't even block an attack from a fodder like Squard. And if Whitebeard used same level of haki on Aokiji then he'd have suffered significant damage. But Whitebeard couldn't bring fourth that level of powera at MF.

Since you're only interested in what we were shown: It'd be something like Old Whitebeard when he was introduced > Akainu > MF Whitebeard. So I guess it'll clear things up for you.
Ok I see your point I mostly agree with u. And he was still sick technically when he fought with shanks and he was like as few months older if at most in marine ford but regardless I understand ur stance.
 

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Garp and Roger nearly killed each other numeros times. Which doesn't mean they were equals, depending under condition that fight went.

On the other hand, it was said that Whitebeard was the only person who was equal to Roger.
El oh el. If the two constantly almost killed each other but neither could finish the job, then they are equals.
 

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Buggy, who was a member of the Roger Pirates, said that Whitebeard was the only person equal to Roger, which means Garp wasn't equal to Roger.
Then please explain how the two were able to almost kill each other countless times, but was unable to fully do it? If Garp wasnt as strong as Roger, Roger would have been able to just kill him.
 

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Buggy, who was a member of the Roger Pirates, said that Whitebeard was the only person equal to Roger, which means Garp wasn't equal to Roger.
yeah but roger said garp and him have killed each other countess times and the key is countless/not just one time he said they had fought to near death many time means they are pretty much equal and roger acknowledged that.so buggy's statment is BS aaand its also buggy.
 

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yeah but roger said garp and him have killed each other countess times and the key is countless/not just one time he said they had fought to near death many time means they are pretty much equal and roger acknowledged that.so buggy's statment is BS aaand its also buggy.
Right? I'm pretty sure Roger's word>Buggy's.
 

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Because someone who isn't as strong as you can consistently fight you and almost kill you over and over.
Yeah why not?

Pretty sure Luffy wasn't really stronger than Crocodile in Alabasta, still Luffy was the winner, same against Enel.

Roger could be ill (he was sick if I remember correctly).

Shiki even said that they likes of them couldn't capture Roger and that it must be lie.
 

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Because someone who isn't as strong as you can consistently fight you and almost kill you over and over.
They were probably really close to each others levels, but that's not the same thing as exact equals. Only WB is confirmed Rogers true equal, It's possible Garp was but it's not set in stone. Almost killing each other doesn't mean equals. Luffy vs Crocodile, Luffy vs Lucci are both examples of almost killing each other but not being equals.
 
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