About Naruto and Sasuke outside source powers

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SAsuke can only use amen a few times and Naruto almost never has a team with him lmfao especially not a team of Taka's caliber

Why would he need it more than a few times when Toneri cannocially got knocked out in 1 punch. You assume Sasuke needs more than 1 ameno to neg diff Toneri.

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This thread is utterly pointless. Naruto is the transmigrant of Ashura and hence will always consign with the principles Ashura abided to.

And even if this thread has a bit of substantiality, Naruto did defeat the 3rd Raikage without Kurama chakra.

Hashirama is a Ashura transmigrant yet he doesn't need team work or Bijuus to be strong.

Naruto still has Kurama powering him up, even if Naruto wasn't in KCM.
 

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Hashirama is a Ashura transmigrant yet he doesn't need team work or Bijuus to be strong.

Naruto still has Kurama powering him up, even if Naruto wasn't in KCM.

Whats wrong with that. Sasuke eyes are powered by itachi. Without it hes blind.
 

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Why would he need it more than a few times when Toneri cannocially got knocked out in 1 punch. You assume Sasuke needs more than 1 ameno to neg diff Toneri.

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Sasuje would wreck Toneri. If Naruto can do it Sasuke deff can cuz he doesnt like talking.

He would have to do it before Tomeri summons the golem and uses his powers.
 

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Sage Mode equals Mangekyou Sasuke so there you go.

They are both natural powers, I don't see the issue. Naruto trained to gain Sage Mode, it is not like Naruto had to get any outside source power.

Mangekyou Sharingan is a natural power for Uchiha, they require no enhancement and especially no outside source power.
 

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two absorbation jutsus usually cancel each other like how two ocular jutsu cancel each other out. toneri is not fast enough to touch sasuke with ameno.

No they don't, sasuke has to touch you for his pretax path to work and toneri doesn't.
 

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Hashirama is a Ashura transmigrant yet he doesn't need team work or Bijuus to be strong.

Naruto still has Kurama powering him up, even if Naruto wasn't in KCM.

Kurama didn't augment Naruto's SM. Don't assume just to assert your claims. Withal, despite the fact Hashirama didn't need the Bijuus to augment his strength, that doesn't connote he didn't get help during his live-time.
 

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No they don't, sasuke has to touch you for his pretax path to work and toneri doesn't.


Toneri absorbtation techniques is connected to him somehow besides that Sasuke is not as careless as Naruto. He will never get hit it with that.
 
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Tbh Sasuke had a hand out called Itachi's eyes. Just saying.


(Stop with the repetitive vs. threads. It is getting really boring.)
 

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Kurama didn't augment Naruto's SM. Don't assume just to assert your claims. Withal, despite the fact Hashirama didn't need the Bijuus to augment his strength, that doesn't connote he didn't get help during his live-time.

I never said Kurama powered up SM specifically, you are the one say that. I said Kurama helped with Naruto recovery enabling him to train longer than natural. Kurama powers up Naruto, which powers up Naruto chakra, strength, speed, stamina etc beyond natural.

We never saw Hashirama needing anyone to get strong, Hashirama seems to be talented even as a kid.
 

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They are both natural powers, I don't see the issue. Naruto trained to gain Sage Mode, it is not like Naruto had to get any outside source power.

Mangekyou Sharingan is a natural power for Uchiha, they require no enhancement and especially no outside source power.

I know thats the point. The OP was saying Naruto never uses his own power. Sage Mode disproves that. Especially when it jumped him to kage level.
 

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Tbh Sasuke had a hand out called Itachi's eyes. Just saying.

I mentioned that in my OP, but Sasuke has feat before getting Itachi eyes. Sasuke only solo feat is against Danzo. The kage submit and Killer Bee required team work.
 
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dubious suck on sasuke's c*** harder bro he's close to busting
 

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I never said Kurama powered up SM specifically, you are the one say that. I said Kurama helped with Naruto recovery enabling him to train longer than natural. Kurama powers up Naruto, which powers up Naruto chakra, strength, speed, stamina etc beyond natural.

We never saw Hashirama needing anyone to get strong, Hashirama seems to be talented even as a kid.

No his Uzumaki genes help him with that. Kushina was also a jin of kurama so Naruto recieved his own resistance to Kurama as well as his mothers and is the only one able to manipulate the chakra with that much skill. He was basically bred to utilize kyuubi just Sasuke was meant to awaken Sharingan.
 
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So does Naruto. It is sage mode. He used it quite often to gain feats, but you choose not acknowledge that.
 

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SO basically what sasuke people are saying is from the moment Sasuke got the EMS no feat is his anymore lol
 
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