About Naruto and Sasuke outside source powers

[InfiniteMugen]

Dude what? Kurama has not always been powering naruto up, in part 1 the only time he uses kurama is when you visibly see it, same for part 2 up until bm. Orange chakra=kurama, blue chakra=naruto. Has he relied on kurama for most his fights, yup, had kurama been powering up naruto non stop since birth?? no... And btw it's stated in early pt 1 that kurama WAS hindering narutos progress until the seal was redone by jiraiya. Dude get you your sh t straight before you try telling other people they're right/wrong

 

[Mori Jin]

Toneri absorbtation techniques is connected to him somehow besides that Sasuke is not as careless as Naruto. He will never get hit it with that.

He doesn't need to get hit. Toneri can absorb his chakra from a distance

 

[DIzmiz01]

It one thing to be fan, but it is never ok to insult anyone no matter what. It doesn't matter what fan anyone is, there a thing called respect.

Remember this everyone has different opinion, there is nothing wrong with that. But it is crossing the line when insulting starts to get used.

You're right my fault I'm sorry man

 

[King Of Pop]

this "own power" is just pointless logic tbh. not to mention all his battles in SM or base is him without kuramas chakra and we have seen plenty of that.

 

[Jokule67]

It seems I made a mistake, Kurama didn't help in recovering Naruto to learn Sage Mode, here is the link

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It mentioned Kurama helps heal while in Sage Mode.

So it appears Kurama chakra didn't help Naruto learn Sage Mode faster.

Uzumaki gives high Life force, stamina, chakra, etc there is no disagreement with me there.

Does a Jinchuuriki need a cloak to be powered up? Every Jinchuuriki appears to be strong, we haven't seen any weak Jinchuuriki. Gaara has no cloak yet has Shukaku powers active and can transform into Shukaku.

Im pretty much done I just wanted to point out that Sage Mode is Narutos own feat. No use in going into the Kyuubis workings because despite having it since birth, his jinchuriki lineage, perfect compadability, and actually beating the kyuubi and mastering its power, peeps still deny him the power he's earned.

Why does it matter if something was given to you. They have the power ups. Accept it. Move on. Its not like they didnt train for it.


I even consider EMS earned by Sasuke since he actually FOUGHT itachi in a death match. I consider CM his since he trained to master it after nearly dying by it.

 

[DIzmiz01]

You can think of it like this, Naruto was given the money from birth to buy a bugatti that he would have to work for to inherit, sasuke worked a little bit but then inherited the money (his eyes from itachi) to buy a bugatti,

both ended up with the same car in a different way

 

[Jokule67]

Naruto also beat Garra without kyuubis help.

 

[lndra]

I see, good talk fam

 

[Nick01]

When will you realize than by removing Kurama, you change the events that took place where he was involved in.
Without Kurama from the beginning, Naruto would be by far the most powerful of all the genin. He'd neg Haku, Gaara, Neji, and most definitely Sasuke.
You say, why didn't he fight when his tailed beast was extracted? All I have to say for that is that no one has ever fought in that condition before. Kushina hold held down Kurama, she didn't fight. Let's say Naruto could still stand, he'd still be at less than 25% of his normal power so it would be pointless for him to fight.

As for the Sasuke faps,
Naruto>Sasuke with or without power ups.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Stupid thread...

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