Misconceptions about Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama through Edo Madara.

[iSpeak the Truth]

stop trying to make people laugh.. EMS Madara would crush EMS Sasuke, along with the 5 kages.. perfect susanoo would get the job done.

Hey! Madara called......he wants his d*ck back! Lol

 

[Simple Math]

Hey! Madara called......he wants his d*ck back! Lol

exactly.. you can't find a counter for perfect susanoo.. am I right?

 

[KidGamer65]

EMS Sasuke > EMS Madara


And maybe I went over with the 5 Kage part...I guess

Lol, you are a very funny guy..EMS Sasuke gets stomped by EMS Madara.....low-mid diff.

Please hop off of Sasuke's nuts..you were doing the same exact shit in the other thread..where you claimed Sasuke's Susanoo>Madara's Susanoo....just because of Amaterasu...stop wanking Amaterasu.

 

[Champ]

No what's really retarded is that you think Sasuke will never stabalise his EMS Susanoo lol

Smh retard why are you givin him feats he doesn't have yet, why don't you wait until he shows us his Perfect Susano'o

 

[Disquiet]

I agree. This was my post in another thread.

Hiruzen.


Hashirama is a lot of hype as well. He built the village? That tells us he has enormous chakra. People need to understand that Madara is using his powers as an edo. Hashirama could make a forest in an instant..but at what cost? Did it drain half his chakra? Nagato could destroy the village in an instant, but was he spamming it? No. Was he spamming chibaku tenseis? No. Hell I'm sure with enough rest/breaks that Yamato could rebuild the entire village.

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"At this rate, the village would be rebuilt in no time." Obviously they wouldn't say that if it was only one house or tree lol.

Yamato: You make it sound easy.


What if he went on and rebuilt the village in a week's time? What would history have said? I know these are "what ifs" but I'm trying to get you to understand my point. Madara using Hashirama's techniques while being in Edo form adds a lot of hype to them which I think is blinding a lot of readers. Madara is an edo, thus has unlimited chakra. I mean come on, the guy was killed in war. Where was his 1,000 forests at then? I doubt he could create that many but that's the point. I'm not trying to undermine him in anyway, I'm just stating the truth for any unbias listeners, Hashirama is an amazing shinobi, I know that, but there is a lot of hype. Even though he's suppose to be a "fairy tale" like the so6p, he still died a shinobi's death.


I'm just trying to remove all the hype so that the readers can see this more clearly and then judge. Though in all honesty, we know just as much about Hashirama as we did in part 1, or whenever it was stated that Hashirama created the entire village. And a lot of people wasn't really paying him any attention then. So now that Madara come back as an edo and show us some mokuton abilities, he's the strongest hokage?

 

[OnPoint]

Current EMS Sasuke defeats the Perfect Susano'o? Hashirama and Madara didn't take part in a landscape changing fight to the death?

Tragic.

 

[Disquiet]

And actually, in which I was told is the official viz translation. It never states anywhere that Hashirama could create a forest in an "instant", just that he could create a forest. Madara could, but that doesn't mean Hashirama could.

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And I agree with Shikaku. xd

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EDIT: Btw, I don't agree with that Sasuke part though lol.

 

[Rike Senju]

A thread trying to downplay the first hokage? :|

 

[Disquiet]

stop trying to make people laugh.. EMS Madara would crush EMS Sasuke, along with the 5 kages.. there's no counter for perfect susanoo

@Bold I kinda believe this too lol.


@Underlined I'm not so sure about that though, from just looking at the thing, it's quite easy to tell that one of its weaknesses is that its extremely huge and has feet. I'm not sure how good Onoki is with his earth techs, but if he remove the ground from underneath him, that huge thing is going for one hell of a fall. Anyone like Hashirama or any great earth style user could easily take advantage of this.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Lol, you are a very funny guy..EMS Sasuke gets stomped by EMS Madara.....low-mid diff.

Please hop off of Sasuke's nuts..you were doing the same exact shit in the other thread..where you claimed Sasuke's Susanoo>Madara's Susanoo....just because of Amaterasu...stop wanking Amaterasu.

You clearly have no clue what Amaterasu is or you wouldn't spout such non sense. Let me refresh your memory.....

As written in the manga.....Amaterasu is the best attack. Amaterasu is also the best defense. You cannot block it, you can only dodge it.

Ei touched it, Ei lost an arm. No 50 foot Susanoo comes close to that kind of strength.

 

[KidGamer65]

You clearly have no clue what Amaterasu is or you wouldn't spout such non sense. Let me refresh your memory.....

As written in the manga.....Amaterasu is the best attack. Amaterasu is also the best defense. You cannot block it, you can only dodge it.

Ei touched it, Ei lost an arm. No 50 foot Susanoo comes close to that kind of strength.

Amaterasu was on a Samurai's armour for how long? And it still didn't even burn through it.

Madara's Prefect Susanoo isn't getting destroyed by Amaterasu...

All it takes is one swipe of PS's blade for Madara's beat Sasuke.

 

[Prince Charles]

You said he was no stronger than ems sasuke or even possibly weaker? Cant tell if troll or retarded...

Idk what happend to you but your tthreads actually use to make sense and were fun to read, now a days their just retarded like this one.

Another nb member bites the dust sigh...

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Amaterasu was on a Samurai's armour for how long? And it still didn't even burn through it.

Madara's Prefect Susanoo isn't getting destroyed by Amaterasu...

All it takes is one swipe of PS's blade for Madara's beat Sasuke.

No one is doing a Sasuke vs Madara here......whether it happens in the future is irrelevant....

Sasuke's EMS Susanoo wields Amaterasu as a weapon, in 3 DIFFERENT WAYS! You cannot come near that thing! And that's just it's EMS form.

Why don't you compare Madara's EMS Susanoo powers to his perfect......

That is the power increase Sasuke is looking at once he stabilises his own. EMS Sasuke is clearly > EMS Madara

 

[KidGamer65]

No one is doing a Sasuke vs Madara here......whether it happens in the future is irrelevant....

Sasuke's EMS Susanoo wields Amaterasu as a weapon, in 3 DIFFERENT WAYS! You cannot come near that thing! And that's just it's EMS form.

Why don't you compare Madara's EMS Susanoo powers to his perfect......

That is the power increase Sasuke is looking at once he stabilises his own. EMS Sasuke is clearly > EMS Madara

So what? You keep on going on about Amaterasu on his Susanoo like it will stop PS's blade from smashing Sasuke's Susanoo to bits..even though it wont.

When you know what Sasuke will get then you can talk about what he will get but as of now.

EMS Madara>>>EMS Sasuke..it isn't even a contest, Amaterasu with his Susanoo alone isn't putting him anywhere near Madara's level.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

So what? You keep on going on about Amaterasu on his Susanoo like it will stop PS's blade from smashing Sasuke's Susanoo to bits..even though it wont.

When you know what Sasuke will get then you can talk about what he will get but as of now.

EMS Madara>>>EMS Sasuke..it isn't even a contest, Amaterasu with his Susanoo alone isn't putting him anywhere near Madara's level.

Amaterasu alone puts Sasuke over every Uchiha in history, not just Madara. Sasuke, just like Naruto, is one of the only known ninjas in history who have achieved both types of changes in chakra and combined them! Form and Nature. Sasuke has tamed lightning. Sasuke surpasses Madara.

 

[KidGamer65]

Amaterasu alone puts Sasuke over Madara. Sasuke, just like Naruto, is one of the only known ninjas in history who have achieved both types of changes in chakra and combined them! Form and Nature. Sasuke has tamed lightning. Sasuke surpasses Madara.

Yup, I'm pretty sure you're a troll now.

I don't care about Sasuke's achievements..he can't deal with Perfect Susanoo, so he can't beat EMS Madara.

Keep on wanking, Keep on trolling.

 

[Prince Charles]

Amaterasu alone puts Sasuke over every Uchiha in history, not just Madara. Sasuke, just like Naruto, is one of the only known ninjas in history who have achieved both types of changes in chakra and combined them! Form and Nature. Sasuke has tamed lightning. Sasuke surpasses Madara.

God your a troll.. just stop bro i dont want to have to neg rep you.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

God your a troll.. just stop bro i dont want to have to neg rep you.

Why don't you gtfo?

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Yup, I'm pretty sure you're a troll now.

I don't care about Sasuke's achievements..he can't deal with Perfect Susanoo, so he can't beat EMS Madara.

Keep on wanking, Keep on trolling.

It doesn't matter if it's fast or slow at burning you, once it's on you, you will turn into ash!

 

[KidGamer65]

It doesn't matter if it's fast or slow at burning you, once it's on you, you will turn into ash!

It isn't getting through Susanoo, Sasuke dies with one shot.