Misconceptions about Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama through Edo Madara.

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What you people do not understand is that.....Edo Madara is neither Uchiha Madara or Senju Hashirama.


He is a completely separate being! Human beings have limits, their chakra is finite, and their bodies are not indestructible.

Edo Madara doesnt have those limits! His chakra is infinite and his body is indestructible! The only way to put him away is by sealing.

On top of everything else! Edo Madara has a Rinnegan, which is the result of a union between his and Hashirama's DNA. Something he couldnt even achieve while alive until he was a decrepit old man hiding in underground caves.

When they were living, breathing human beings, with all the limitations that come from having a real human body, like limited stamina, being prone to injuries, vulnerability, limited chakra and energy.....Uchiha Madara could not fight like Edo Madara can fight, nor could Senju Hashirama use his wood jutsus like Edo Madara uses them.

What people don't get is that when Madara was in his prime, he was no stronger than EMS Sasuke is today, possibly even weaker than Sasuke, because Madaras Susanoo does not have the Amaterasu implemented into it like Sasuke's does.

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Hashirama was known for suppressing the tailed beasts powers. It is the reason he was chosen as the First Hokage.

The Flower Tree World was used to incapacitate his opponents through the sleep inducing properties of the pollen in the flowers. It was used to knock his opponents unconscious.

The Wooden Dragon's one and only use was the suppression of the Ninetails when Madara had it under his own MS Genjutsu.

He was also known to use the land itself in accordance with his will while in battle.

I am not downplaying Hashirama here, I am asking you, do you really think he could do all of these things endlessly?

Hashirama had a limit as well.....


You are all over estimating Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama because you are all completely dazzled by Edo Madaras abilities who doesn't have a limit on his chakra or stamina.

If he was flesh and bone, and didn't have Hashirama's face sticking out of his chest, The Five Kage could have stopped him long ago......

And this little detail from history is still relevant and valid, middle panel:


That's all folks!




 

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you are wrong.. EMS Madara > five kages.. there's no counter for perfect susanoo.
 
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Read first couple of sentences. He is Madara Uchiha, just upgraded by Hashi DNA. By that logic, fodder Zetsu aren't really Zetsu, Naruto isn't really Naruto, Sasuke isn't really Sasuke, etc., etc.
 

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You actually lost me at Uchiha Madara is neither himself or Hashirama...

It's no secret that Madara is showcasing Hashirama's skills well due to the Edo tensei but Hashirama is fully capable of utilizing these abilities with limitless fatigue. His battle with Madara wasn't a walk in the park, he had to go all out. Point is, Hashirama has hype because Kishi is trying to give him hype. Madara being the strongest in the manga as of now and the way he talks so highly of Hashirama just shows what a shinobi he must have been. And remember, Senju DNA solves all your problems!
 

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He is uchiha madara with mokuton, Rinnegan and EMs o-o
 

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You actually lost me at Uchiha Madara is neither himself or Hashirama...

It's no secret that Madara is showcasing Hashirama's skills well due to the Edo tensei but Hashirama is fully capable of utilizing these abilities with limitless fatigue!

you lost me there...lol
 

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I am not downplaying Hashirama here, I am asking you, do you really think he could do all of these things endlessly?

this could be the answer right here :D

 

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i disagree with the ems sasuke is perhaps stronger then ems madara using the susanoo as in example, because madara stated he had perfect susanoo, which i believe would curb stomp sasuke's current susanoo
 
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Whats wrong with seeing him as Madara Uchiha with a sh*t ton of stolen powers?
 

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""What people don't get is that when Madara was in his prime, he was no stronger than EMS Sasuke is today, possibly even weaker than Sasuke, because Madaras Susanoo does not have the Amaterasu implemented into it like Sasuke's does."

I almost died laughing at this one, but anyway....

"You are all over estimating Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama because you are all completely dazzled by Edo Madaras abilities who doesn't have a limit on his chakra or stamina.

If he was flesh and bone, and didn't have Hashirama's face sticking out of his chest, The Five Kage could have stopped him long ago......"

And this is where you're wrong.

Perfect Susanoo didn't come out early in the fight because Madara was an Edo, he could afford to spam jutsu. If he is unable to spam jutsu and does not have most of the arsenal he used as an Edo, what do you think would gave happened? 1 word, Perfect Susanoo.
 

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""What people don't get is that when Madara was in his prime, he was no stronger than EMS Sasuke is today, possibly even weaker than Sasuke, because Madaras Susanoo does not have the Amaterasu implemented into it like Sasuke's does."

I almost died laughing at this one, but anyway....

"You are all over estimating Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama because you are all completely dazzled by Edo Madaras abilities who doesn't have a limit on his chakra or stamina.

If he was flesh and bone, and didn't have Hashirama's face sticking out of his chest, The Five Kage could have stopped him long ago......"

And this is where you're wrong.

Perfect Susanoo didn't come out early in the fight because Madara was an Edo, he could afford to spam jutsu. If he is unable to spam jutsu and does not have most of the arsenal he used as an Edo, what do you think would gave happened? 1 word, Perfect Susanoo.

EMS Sasuke > EMS Madara


And maybe I went over with the 5 Kage part...I guess
 

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Another retarded thread Madara had Perfect Susano'o in his prime, which is better than current Sasuke.
 

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""What people don't get is that when Madara was in his prime, he was no stronger than EMS Sasuke is today, possibly even weaker than Sasuke, because Madaras Susanoo does not have the Amaterasu implemented into it like Sasuke's does."

I almost died laughing at this one, but anyway....

"You are all over estimating Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama because you are all completely dazzled by Edo Madaras abilities who doesn't have a limit on his chakra or stamina.

If he was flesh and bone, and didn't have Hashirama's face sticking out of his chest, The Five Kage could have stopped him long ago......"

And this is where you're wrong.

Perfect Susanoo didn't come out early in the fight because Madara was an Edo, he could afford to spam jutsu. If he is unable to spam jutsu and does not have most of the arsenal he used as an Edo, what do you think would gave happened? 1 word, Perfect Susanoo.
you deserve a *****

totally agree EMS Sasuke > EMS madara

kirin + AMATERSAU etc

man edo madara is so overrated
many madara dickriders lol

he's an edo who gives a shit anyway about a dead person -_-
 

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""What people don't get is that when Madara was in his prime, he was no stronger than EMS Sasuke is today, possibly even weaker than Sasuke, because Madaras Susanoo does not have the Amaterasu implemented into it like Sasuke's does."

I almost died laughing at this one, but anyway....

"You are all over estimating Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama because you are all completely dazzled by Edo Madaras abilities who doesn't have a limit on his chakra or stamina.

If he was flesh and bone, and didn't have Hashirama's face sticking out of his chest, The Five Kage could have stopped him long ago......"

And this is where you're wrong.

Perfect Susanoo didn't come out early in the fight because Madara was an Edo, he could afford to spam jutsu. If he is unable to spam jutsu and does not have most of the arsenal he used as an Edo, what do you think would gave happened? 1 word, Perfect Susanoo.
you deserve a REP +

totally agree EMS Sasuke > EMS madara

kirin + AMATERSAU etc

man edo madara is so overrated
many madara dickriders lol

he's an edo who gives a shit anyway about a dead person -_-
 

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Another retarded thread Madara had Perfect Susano'o in his prime, which is better than current Sasuke.

No what's really retarded is that you think Sasuke will never stabalise his EMS Susanoo lol
 

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EMS Sasuke > EMS Madara


And maybe I went over with the 5 Kage part...I guess

stop trying to make people laugh.. EMS Madara would crush EMS Sasuke, along with the 5 kages.. there's no counter for perfect susanoo
 
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