Don't underestimate The Uchiha Clan

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Senju > Uchiha.

It has been stated many times in the manga.

The uchiha where the senju's dogs.

ahhaha i don't think so...mmMM.
how many Senju are alive?: 1,2,3? sorry :( only tsunade
how many Uchiha are alive?: 1,2,3? ooh yeah 3 sasuke madara and obito(madara because he released the edo tensei
gtfo when we all know that uchihas are stronger
 

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even though your statement is true i still think itachi could beat all of them by himself...i mean susanoo with yata mirror and totsuka sword,amaterasu...he could be chilling inside susanoo and fodderizing them at the same time...the only problem would be if his chakra reserves would endure to kill them all but that`s all.:)
 

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You got to be the damnass fanboys ever if you the uchiha is a weak clan
Shisui
obito
itachi
madara
sasuke
etc
 

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They were a powerful clan but that doesn't mean they aren't human. Obito and Itachi attacked the Uchiha clan in their sleep. They are human so even a Kunai would be able to kill a powerful shinobi if he's alseep(unless he has a natural defence).


Though the Uchiha=Senju isn't something I outright agree with. There are some Uchihas stronger than Senjus but there are also Senjus who are stronger than Uchihas.

During Madara and Hashirama's time, I believe the Senju were above the Uchiha but not by much. Since the Uchihas were the only clan who could stand up to the Senju clan. Hence why whenever someone first hired the Senju clan, the other would hire the Uchiha clan. If nations hired the Senju first instead of the Uchiha, then I would believe it was because they were above them even if it wasn't by much. In which their enemies reacted by hiring the Uchiha clan to actually stand a chance.
 

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even though your statement is true i still think itachi could beat all of them by himself...i mean susanoo with yata mirror and totsuka sword,amaterasu...he could be chilling inside susanoo and fodderizing them at the same time...the only problem would be if his chakra reserves would endure to kill them all but that`s all.:)
Yeeah, you might be right, but it would definitely been hard to take on the whole clan, even with all thoose things
You got to be the damnass fanboys ever if you the uchiha is a weak clan
Shisui
obito
itachi
madara
sasuke
etc
Agreed
They were a powerful clan but that doesn't mean they aren't human. Obito and Itachi attacked the Uchiha clan in their sleep. They are human so even a Kunai would be able to kill a powerful shinobi if he's alseep(unless he has a natural defence).


Though the Uchiha=Senju isn't something I outright agree with. There are some Uchihas stronger than Senjus but there are also Senjus who are stronger than Uchihas.

During Madara and Hashirama's time, I believe the Senju were above the Uchiha but not by much. Since the Uchihas were the only clan who could stand up to the Senju clan. Hence why whenever someone first hired the Senju clan, the other would hire the Uchiha clan. If nations hired the Senju first instead of the Uchiha, then I would believe it was because they were above them even if it wasn't by much. In which their enemies reacted by hiring the Uchiha clan to actually stand a chance.
Yeah, they aren't like, more powerful than anything in the world, but people tend to forget Obito and Itachi did kill them in their sleep, and therefore underestimate them.

I honestly think that the Uchiha were as powerful as the Senju when Konoha was founded. I mean, they fought countless times, but there was no obvious victor, otherwise they wouldn't have signed the peace treaty. There would only be one clan which would have survived if one of them was stronger at that time.
 

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I would love if obito's and madara's moons eye plan was accomplished xd it would be so awesome

The senju clan is dead :/ of course the uchiha is stronger all the senju have is tsunade

But in the times konoha was founded the senju clan was overall stronger then the uchiha.
ive been reading your comments on this thread you sir are a real senju dik riding idiot :p you really should have actually read what blaze release posted i can see why he left the thread i would too :sy: UCHIHA=SENJU fukin cry a river dude he gave you complete manga proof of kishi saying this and yet you continue to make up stupid logic.... "in the manga Senju have always come out on top so they are better" what kinda logic is that :shrug: you even posted at the beginning false manga translation and blaze release shot you down on that but yet you keep repeating this stupid logic not only that but everyone els you have disagreed with you, you have flamed... you must really know everything dude considering your disagreeing with the person who writes the manga :sy: your not worth anyones time and im questioning why i eve wasted my time... guess i just dont like the uchiha name being spit at.... i could say with your logic i could apply it with the current Uchiha lets look at this obito an Uchiha successfully controlled the nine tails and attacked the village and killed the hokage in one night so does that make the Uchiha better cuzz lets look at another scenario Madara absolutely pwned the current kages without breaking a single sweat and Tsunade was a Senju sooo :rolleyes: i guess that makes them on top? these are just 2 examples of what your logic looks like... you sit here telling people to go back and read the manga when i think you need to go back and start from chapter 1 with a more accurate translation....
 

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How can you regard the future generations lol now your trolling. There are no more senju apart from tsunade and maybe some hidden ones. But either way most of them have died out.

The main argument in this thread was is senju and uchiha around the time they were all alive, so when they founded konoha.

Your argument is invalid.

Forget who we have seen so far and after konoha was founded.

When the manga talks about the past it is always implied senju were above the uchiha.

If it was implied the uchiha was above and the senju matched up to them, I would argue the same for the uchiha.

I am no fanboy of senju. Tbh I prefer the uchiha more. Mainly because we have barely seen any senju.

lol its you who is trolling they were not extinct. they were simply no longer prominent, even hashirama's own son/daughter(could be either) was not prominent ninja mentioned anywhere. tsunade was good but not top tier. there is still a senju clan sure there are only remnants of it or maybe its because they were fodders.

It wasnt always implied the senju were above them, they were always shown equal back from the day of the elder son younger son conflict. you take your own meaning of the manga. Even the leaders of the clan were extremely close in strength they fought each other many times and didnt have a clear winner.

you're saying the senju are the strongest that ever lived but disregard the amount of insanely strong shinobi the uchiha have produced after that era while hashirama's descendants were still around, except you don't hear of them because they were just not that great.

you're making a flawed argument where you say that the future of the clan does not matter when it absolutely does, uchihas were simply overall produced better shinobi that is something you keep denying but which is true. Stop trolling the senjus even right after the war when they were alive like u say they were not impressive in terms of having highly skilled shinobi. If u look at them as a clan they were always portrayed equal to the senjus not below them. And overall did have better shinobi.
 
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lol its you who is trolling they were not extinct. they were simply no longer prominent, even hashirama's own son/daughter was not prominent ninja mentioned anywhere. tsunade was good but not top tier. there is still a senju clan sure there are only remnants of it or maybe its because they were fodders.

It wasnt always implied the senju were above them, they were always shown equal back from the day of the elder son younger son conflict. you take your own meaning of the manga.

you're saying the senju are the strongest that ever lived but disregard the amount of insanely strong shinobi the uchiha have produced after that era while hashirama's descendants were still around, except you don't hear of them because they were just not that great.

you're making a flawed argument where you say that the future of the clan does not matter when it absolutely does, uchihas were simply overall produced better shinobi that is something you keep denying but which is true. Stop trolling the senjus even right after the war when they were alive like u say they were not impressive in terms of having highly skilled shinobi. If u look at them as a clan they were always portrayed equal to the senjus not below them. And overall did have better shinobi.

:| this argument was about times when konoha was just founded. Your argument is a whole new argument.

The last one was solved. Just move on dude, I am interested in the upcoming events of the manga Uchiha > senju if you want. Lets move on
 

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:| this argument was about times when konoha was just founded. Your argument is a whole new argument.

The last one was solved. Just move on dude, I am interested in the upcoming events of the manga Uchiha > senju if you want. Lets move on
what does it take to get this through your thick skull i sware anything you dont agree with goes right through you tiny brain... look im a huge fan of Uchiha but even i can admit Uchiha=Senju that is how kishi made it and if you dont like it read a different manga that pleases you more :p everyone has been trying to move on but you persist on making yourself look like an idiot and disagree with people... people who have brought direct manga proof it seriously is beyond me how you have such a large rep bar....
 

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:| this argument was about times when konoha was just founded. Your argument is a whole new argument.

The last one was solved. Just move on dude, I am interested in the upcoming events of the manga Uchiha > senju if you want. Lets move on

and yet you didnt acknowledge that lol. I am not a fanboy of uchiha but to say overall they are a weaker clan is ridiculous. And again there is no proof they are all dead especially when tsunade was younger. i believe they are simply not as prominent since senjus dont have insane power-ups like MS and etc. but ok whatever i still think they are portrayed equal but anyway this is getting old.
 

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what does it take to get this through your thick skull i sware anything you dont agree with goes right through you tiny brain... look im a huge fan of Uchiha but even i can admit Uchiha=Senju that is how kishi made it and if you dont like it read a different manga that pleases you more :p everyone has been trying to move on but you persist on making yourself look like an idiot and disagree with people... people who have brought direct manga proof it seriously is beyond me how you have such a large rep bar....

Don't worry about the rep bar that was earn with good threads.

But yh dude lets move on this has been solved. This thread was hours ago
 

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Don't worry about the rep bar that was earn with good threads.

But yh dude lets move on this has been solved. This thread was hours ago

oh your right it was solved waaay at the beginning when blze release borught you complete proof of uchia being equal to senju and you have been rambling on since with comments based off stupid logic U_U and i truly find it hard to belive that you could produce a good thread with that Logic and ego but whatevs your right it doesnt matter..
 

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oh your right it was solved waaay at the beginning when blze release borught you complete proof of uchia being equal to senju and you have been rambling on since with comments based off stupid logic U_U and i truly find it hard to belive that you could produce a good thread with that Logic and ego but whatevs your right it doesnt matter..


Well.. Ok I don't have to prove anything to you.

By point was at the end of the day in this manga senju would always win, just as at the end of the day naruto will always > sasuke. Its just how this manga goes.

Dumb uchiha fans state uchiha > senju unless you put them in their place.

Look at a dumb thread like this

everyone but me says yes uchiha are stronger, dumb uchiha fans.
 
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the strongest uchiha fought the senju i think we all remember the outcome of hashirama vs madara so what does that say about these 2 clans ?
only that senju>uchiha but only slightly

i know that currently the sharingan and rinegan are the strongest ocular jutsu but what if those damn hyugas focused their perfect chakra control on ninjutsu, genjutsu and medical ninjutsu wouldn't they become incredibly strong (just picture neji combining lightning release into all his jutsus awesome right?)
 

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You can never underestimate the Uchiha
Dude, that ava is B-A-D-A-S-S

Don't worry this guy is a uchiha/sasuke fanboy and won't accept the fact that other characters are better then his. So don't get so mad. He is just an idiot. :D

The Senju are not stronger than the Uchiha, the clans are equal :sy

I do however agree with HS on the fact that in the end, the Uchiha will lose, simply because they are the "bad guys" in the Manga
 
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