Don't underestimate The Uchiha Clan

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the senju are not the strongest Harashima was the only Strong Senju after him almost every uchiha would destroy the senju

p.p sorry i forgot about Tobirama just havent see what makes him dangerous
Exactly, Hashi, Tobirama and Tsunade are pretty much the only Senju worth mentioning
 

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Why can't you guys just deal? Manga stated Senju = Uchiha are pretty much equal.

Kishi shouldn't have to make hundreds of Senju characters and hundreds of Uchiha characters just to show you that they are. The story just happens to be more focused around the Uchiha that's why their are a few more Uchiha characters than there are Senju.

Not every Uchiha member has the strength comparable to Madara/Sasuke/Itachi and not every Senju member would have the strength of Hashirama/Tobirama/Tsunade.
 
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Why can't you guys just deal? Manga stated Senju = Uchiha are pretty much equal.

Kishi shouldn't have to make hundreds of Senju characters and hundreds of Uchiha characters just to show you that they are. The story just happens to be more focused around the Uchiha that's why their are a few more Uchiha characters than there are Senju.

Not every Uchiha member has the strength comparable to Madara/Sasuke/Itachi and not every Senju member would have the strength of Hashirama/Tobirama/Tsunade.
u forget about fugaku mikoto and shisui + remember sasuke say not even itachi could have taken out the entire clan by himself which

means is the base uchiha were all high chunin to mid jounin which is y i say after the main 2 or 3 senju their clan would be weak
 

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Why can't you guys just deal? Manga stated Senju = Uchiha are pretty much equal.

Kishi shouldn't have to make hundreds of Senju characters and hundreds of Uchiha characters just to show you that they are. The story just happens to be more focused around the Uchiha that's why their are a few more Uchiha characters than there are Senju.

Not every Uchiha member has the strength comparable to Madara/Sasuke/Itachi and not every Senju member would have the strength of Hashirama/Tobirama/Tsunade.

That's exactly my point :|

People say that Senju>Uchiha but forget that they were equal, and that the Senju are very similar to the Uchiha in the way that both clans only have few members worth mentioning.
 

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u forget about fugaku mikoto and shisui + remember sasuke say not even itachi could have taken out the entire clan by himself which

means is the base uchiha were all high chunin to mid jounin which is y i say after the main 2 or 3 senju their clan would be weak
I don't know what you're trying to tell me....are you agreeing? :|
That's exactly my point :|

People say that Senju>Uchiha but forget that they were equal, and that the Senju are very similar to the Uchiha in the way that both clans only have few members worth mentioning.

I didn't mean to quote you. o-o Didn't even notice I did it.

But yes, they are practically equal. Seeing as how they're supposed to represent the Sage's Older Son and Younger Son. :y
 

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This is pretty obvious. Anyone who wants to say the Uchiha are weak can just look at anyone living in the story now with the sharingan.
 

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Uchiha > Senju.
 

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I didn't mean to quote you. o-o Didn't even notice I did it.

But yes, they are practically equal. Seeing as how they're supposed to represent the Sage's Older Son and Younger Son. :y
Ah, I see :D
This is pretty obvious. Anyone who wants to say the Uchiha are weak can just look at anyone living in the story now with the sharingan.
Yup, true dat'
 

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You don't even know what your talking about. I can't stand Madara, but that doesn't mean the Senju are superior to the Uchiha. It's like a football game, there could be two equal teams that play and on one day one team wins, and on tHe next the other wins. It's outcome of a battle between them is unpredictable. There also nowhere in the manga that states that the Senju a superior to the Uchiha either, I know you can read so I dont know why you can't realize that from the manga pages you posted, where it clearly states that they're equals. You're just one of those people here at the base that think you know everything, when in actuality you know nothing, about nothing. Baka. If stating this makes me an Uchiha d!ckrider, than what does your statements make you a Senju d!ckrider?

Hashirama and madara are my favourite characters but that's not what this is about.

All I am saying is if all the senju clan fought the uchiha clan the senju clan would win base on what has been shown in the manga so far. Everything always puts the senju in a better position then the uchiha and always puts the uchiha them below them.

And no I am not the type of person on base who thinks I know everything :| you don't even know me if you did you wouldn't say that.

Uchiha > Senju.

Nope Senju > Uchiha. If we was going to say who was actually stronger. The uchiha come close I agree
 
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Personally I prefer the Uchiha over the Senju, but they were equal.

So if all the uchiha and all the senju fought each other in a battle to the death. Who do you think would win even if it is the last man standing as they are equal.
 

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I think personally that even though it has been said that the Uchiha = Senju, i think the Senju will always win in the end because of their belief in love or some nonsense like that. It seems like something Kishi would do. If you look at the two strongest of each clan that we know of, (Madara and Hashirama) in their last fight, the Senju were victorious. Although considering Madara didnt have the rinnegan in that fight, it couldve gone very differently.
 

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I think personally that even though it has been said that the Uchiha = Senju, i think the Senju will always win in the end because of their belief in love or some nonsense like that. It seems like something Kishi would do. If you look at the two strongest of each clan that we know of, (Madara and Hashirama) in their last fight, the Senju were victorious. Although considering Madara didnt have the rinnegan in that fight, it couldve gone very differently.

Basically this is what I am trying to tell everyone. In this manga, senju will always come out on top.

Madara can't obtain the rinnegan without senju dna anyway so that fight was fair. Well madara brought the nine tails so.. it was sort of fair.
 

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Uchiha are one of the two strongest clans in the entire manga. So it's only logical that Senju Clan = Uchiha Clan. As a personal preference though, Uchiha > Senju. I don't like any facet or the so-called hypocritical sensibilities of the Senju clan. Never liked them, and never will.
 

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Basically this is what I am trying to tell everyone. In this manga, senju will always come out on top.

Madara can't obtain the rinnegan without senju dna anyway so that fight was fair. Well madara brought the nine tails so.. it was sort of fair.
Ah true, just a brain fart. So if anything it was unfair towards Hashirama and he still won. Not to mention everybody knows in the last fight that Naruto will come out on top. It is his story after all..
 
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Ah true, just a brain fart. So if anything it was unfair towards Hashirama and he still won. Not to mention everybody knows in the lst fight that Naruto will come out on top. It is his story after all..

Yep this is the reality of this manga.

Whether you want to say Naruto and sasuke are equal we all know *checks the shows title* That Naruto > Sasuke in the end.

The same for Senju > Uchiha, someone has to win and we know it would be senju
 

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Hashirama and madara are my favourite characters but that's not what this is about.

All I am saying is if all the senju clan fought the uchiha clan the senju clan would win base on what has been shown in the manga so far. Everything always puts the senju in a better position then the uchiha and always puts the uchiha them below them.

And no I am not the type of person on base who thinks I know everything :| you don't even know me if you did you wouldn't say that.



Nope Senju > Uchiha. If we was going to say who was actually stronger. The uchiha come close I agree

Again u are ignoring blaze's proof. He showed u what manga stream said and everyone will tell you that its one of the best sources for correct translations. So we have to go by what the best translation says so its uchiha=senju. there are plenty of bad translations on mangahere and mangapanda etc.

like this one
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they praise madara to be the strongest shinobi in the world in this scan from mangahere website

Stop calling people dickriders because they dont agree with you especially when *********** post from blaze shows that they are referring to hashirama not the senju clan. And its not at all wrong to say uchiha>senju as a matter of fact at this current moment. And also historically as we have seen there are more prominen and powerful shinobi from the uchiha clan than the senju. So i can easily make the arguement with you that in itachi and shisui's generation uchiha>senju and the current period uchihas>senju.

I believe both clans are equal but look at it from an historic aspect and its easy to see uchiha produced better shinobi sasuke, madara(ems), itachi, izuna, shisui. top tier senjus were tsunade, hashirama and tobirama. I am obviously not counting the senju powerups in the mix which is why obito is not really valid but just one of his eyes make kakashi a force to be reckoned with.
 
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Just to add on to this thread, Itachi would have been able to kill them all if Shisui was alive,

and if weren't for Obito, the youngest Mangekyou user ever existed :rolleyes:
 
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So if all the uchiha and all the senju fought each other in a battle to the death. Who do you think would win even if it is the last man standing as they are equal.
Then the Senju would win, of course, since Manga works that way.
 
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