[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

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All this gushing over Kishi's mistake or the joy that the so called "predictors" are expressing right now aside (for the moment). I am blown that people are calling this the best chapter yet. Yes, a huge plot point was revealed today-or not, argue what you will- and yes, this has been long anticipated, BUT, the fact that for me, at least, there was essentially no text throughout the entire chapter really, really, really, really bums me the f*ck out.

I want plot development...and not just in images. I wanted dialogue. I flipped through that chapter in two minutes. I'm pissed.

That said, this is how I see it all: To my knowledge there has been no mention to exactly how long the third ninja war lasted. What we know for certain, is that Jiyaira spent three years training Konan, Yahiko, and Nagato and when he left the war was still going on. In fact, it seems to have lasted well into their young adulthood; see Nagato and Yahiko's confrontation with Hanzo, in which Yahiko dies. (I believe there was mention of the war still continuing at that point). It seems that Obito, Kakishi, and Rin were approximately the same age as Jiraiya's students. We also don't know exactly when the nine tails attacked Konoha, just that it was sixteen years prior to the current war. Thus, potentially giving Obito time to mature into what we saw in his fight with Minato.

Another point that is known for sure, is a long haired person that looks an awful lot like Madara, controlled the Mizukage and approached Kisame. Though, we did not see his face, he simply had the same hair and armor as Madara. It also seems to fit that at the time of their meeting the third ninja war was still going on.

Also, Madara admits to have gathered Senju DNA and awakened the Rinnegan before his death and we know the Rinnegan has the power to bring those who are dead back to life.

In all likelihood, and to which direction I think Kishi may be headed, Madara restored or saved Obito, but Obito having been injured, used Senju DNA to repair the half of his body that had been crushed. Because, the way I understand it, the Rinnegan can restore life, but it would not be able to restore the type of damage Obito received along with it (maybe thats a hole). Obito being a young impressionable mind, perhaps even an outcast among his own clan, he was an ideal subordinate for Madara who perhaps was nearing his own end. Perhaps he even gave him some of his own power.

In Sasuke's fight with Danzo, once he has been defeated and before he commences his sealing jutsu, Tobi descends upon Danzo and Madara-like armor can be seen underneath (this is in the anime btw). This has puzzled me for a while, but I feel it could make sense if there is in fact some connection between Madara and Obito. A connection that perhaps goes beyond master and student, like say, if Madara had given Obito a part of his Chakra or merged with him in some way.

I dont know if I even care about this theory, but its awfully annoying when people try and piece together wild theories in which there is little basis or contradicts easily addressable points in the story line.

lets hear responses
 

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So who were all these other Uchiha back in the day who had senju blood? they said people were miss using it with izanagi so izanami was created. must have been a bunch of half blooded senju-chiha's...


Also, I believe this chapter didn't have any text because it was a flash of memories in Kakashi's mind as he saw Obito's face. And at the bottom of the last page it says Revealed-His name is Obito
 
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

I loved this chapter...

As much as I expected Tobi to be Obito in the end I didn't expect him to look so awesome without the mask!!! :T_T:

Although my present concern is Kakashi... :shy: It's just too hard on him...
Yeah, it'll be hard for KAKASHI to revive his dark memory like this... So Kishi deploy the RED Herring finally 'eh?:ice:
 

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All this gushing over Kishi's mistake or the joy that the so called "predictors" are expressing right now aside (for the moment). I am blown that people are calling this the best chapter yet. Yes, a huge plot point was revealed today-or not, argue what you will- and yes, this has been long anticipated, BUT, the fact that for me, at least, there was essentially no text throughout the entire chapter really, really, really, really bums me the f*ck out.

I want plot development...and not just in images. I wanted dialogue. I flipped through that chapter in two minutes. I'm pissed.

That said, this is how I see it all: To my knowledge there has been no mention to exactly how long the third ninja war lasted. What we know for certain, is that Jiyaira spent three years training Konan, Yahiko, and Nagato and when he left the war was still going on. In fact, it seems to have lasted well into their young adulthood; see Nagato and Yahiko's confrontation with Hanzo, in which Yahiko dies. (I believe there was mention of the war still continuing at that point). It seems that Obito, Kakishi, and Rin were approximately the same age as Jiraiya's students. We also don't know exactly when the nine tails attacked Konoha, just that it was sixteen years prior to the current war. Thus, potentially giving Obito time to mature into what we saw in his fight with Minato.

Another point that is known for sure, is a long haired person that looks an awful lot like Madara, controlled the Mizukage and approached Kisame. Though, we did not see his face, he simply had the same hair and armor as Madara. It also seems to fit that at the time of their meeting the third ninja war was still going on.

Also, Madara admits to have gathered Senju DNA and awakened the Rinnegan before his death and we know the Rinnegan has the power to bring those who are dead back to life.

In all likelihood, and to which direction I think Kishi may be headed, Madara restored or saved Obito, but Obito having been injured, used Senju DNA to repair the half of his body that had been crushed. Because, the way I understand it, the Rinnegan can restore life, but it would not be able to restore the type of damage Obito received along with it (maybe thats a hole). Obito being a young impressionable mind, perhaps even an outcast among his own clan, he was an ideal subordinate for Madara who perhaps was nearing his own end. Perhaps he even gave him some of his own power.

In Sasuke's fight with Danzo, once he has been defeated and before he commences his sealing jutsu, Tobi descends upon Danzo and Madara-like armor can be seen underneath (this is in the anime btw). This has puzzled me for a while, but I feel it could make sense if there is in fact some connection between Madara and Obito. A connection that perhaps goes beyond master and student, like say, if Madara had given Obito a part of his Chakra or merged with him in some way.

I dont know if I even care about this theory, but its awfully annoying when people try and piece together wild theories in which there is little basis or contradicts easily addressable points in the story line.

lets hear responses

That was just AFTER the second great ninja war that Jiraiya trained Yahiko, Konan, & Nagato... Jiraiya & the Sannin hit their late teens around then all of them are significantly older than Kakashi's team. Plus the fact that Madara knew Nagato as a child doesn't really help with the age factor. Nagato himself can't be no younger than 40. And Konan & Yahiko their late 30's.
I'm not even gonna touch the whole Obito thing anymore, there's way too many holes in the story in its ENTIRETY now to even make an assumption anymore.
 

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All this gushing over Kishi's mistake or the joy that the so called "predictors" are expressing right now aside (for the moment). I am blown that people are calling this the best chapter yet. Yes, a huge plot point was revealed today-or not, argue what you will- and yes, this has been long anticipated, BUT, the fact that for me, at least, there was essentially no text throughout the entire chapter really, really, really, really bums me the f*ck out.

I want plot development...and not just in images. I wanted dialogue. I flipped through that chapter in two minutes. I'm pissed.

That said, this is how I see it all: To my knowledge there has been no mention to exactly how long the third ninja war lasted. What we know for certain, is that Jiyaira spent three years training Konan, Yahiko, and Nagato and when he left the war was still going on. In fact, it seems to have lasted well into their young adulthood; see Nagato and Yahiko's confrontation with Hanzo, in which Yahiko dies. (I believe there was mention of the war still continuing at that point). It seems that Obito, Kakishi, and Rin were approximately the same age as Jiraiya's students. We also don't know exactly when the nine tails attacked Konoha, just that it was sixteen years prior to the current war. Thus, potentially giving Obito time to mature into what we saw in his fight with Minato.

Another point that is known for sure, is a long haired person that looks an awful lot like Madara, controlled the Mizukage and approached Kisame. Though, we did not see his face, he simply had the same hair and armor as Madara. It also seems to fit that at the time of their meeting the third ninja war was still going on.

Also, Madara admits to have gathered Senju DNA and awakened the Rinnegan before his death and we know the Rinnegan has the power to bring those who are dead back to life.

In all likelihood, and to which direction I think Kishi may be headed, Madara restored or saved Obito, but Obito having been injured, used Senju DNA to repair the half of his body that had been crushed. Because, the way I understand it, the Rinnegan can restore life, but it would not be able to restore the type of damage Obito received along with it (maybe thats a hole). Obito being a young impressionable mind, perhaps even an outcast among his own clan, he was an ideal subordinate for Madara who perhaps was nearing his own end. Perhaps he even gave him some of his own power.

In Sasuke's fight with Danzo, once he has been defeated and before he commences his sealing jutsu, Tobi descends upon Danzo and Madara-like armor can be seen underneath (this is in the anime btw). This has puzzled me for a while, but I feel it could make sense if there is in fact some connection between Madara and Obito. A connection that perhaps goes beyond master and student, like say, if Madara had given Obito a part of his Chakra or merged with him in some way.

I dont know if I even care about this theory, but its awfully annoying when people try and piece together wild theories in which there is little basis or contradicts easily addressable points in the story line.

lets hear responses

And here was my last response from before


So, for all those who think Obito would have years to grow into his power before the Kyuubi Attack, let's do the math. Kakashi and Obito are the same age, and currently Kakashi is 30 years old. He was 13 Years old during the Battle of Kannabi Bridge. He was 14 during the Nine-Tails attack. Given his birthday (September 14) and the date of the attack (October 10), at most 13 months had passed since the Battle but most likely less.

So, would someone explain to me how Obito went from being a canon-fodder ninja to some Shinobi God capable of effortlessly wiping out multiple ANBU Squads and fighting on par with Namikaze Minato in a matter of months?

Or how Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan when he had yet to even be born?

Or better yet, how he encouraged Yahiko to start Akatsuki when he was still rolling around with Team Minato?

Personally, if it wasn't for the fact that it clashes with established canon, I wouldn't have a problem with Tobi being Obito. He is a perfect foil to Naruto all things considered. But it seems to me that Kishi is just pulling this out of his ass right now.
 

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Haha! Tobi is Obito. I'm sure the "You are.....OBITO...?" Is more like the old school "Et tu Brute" Really love how easily people want to hate on Kishi just because it doesnt go how they would like it to. TOBI IS OBITO!!! HAHAHA! I knew it! What makes it even better is seeing you in denial, it's only going to be that much sweeter when it's all said and done with. I dont understand why so many people cant believe it's Obito, why is it so hard to believe when you know he's had dealings with Orochimaru, Madara and Zetsu.
"You can't see what you don't want to see."
Because it doesn't fit with the events that lead up to Obito's death, and it doesn't fit with events that happen afterward, like the 9 tails attack on Konoha. I've said it before, it makes more sense for Ramen Guy to be Tobi than it does for Obito.
 

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mother of ****ing gods!! what is this bullshit!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa
i cant stand watching this bullshit of manga! wTF is thisSSS

Kishimoto you are the worst piece of EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.........
more plot whole!! this is a maddness!
plotholes everywhere.
PLEASE PLEASE go to my thread and educate me on ALL of the plot holes there since there are so many. If you are gunna bitch about Tobi being Obito then go to "Plot Holes in Naruto??" and if u actually have plot holes go to "Plot Holes in Naruto?? (Besides Tobi being Obito!!)"
 

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It's time everyone (me included) accept the facts; no matter how horribly obvious it may be.

It's the Uchiha's cursed hatred again
 
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Obito deserved to be Tobi. This the reason why Obitos name is always mentioned even at the earlier chapters of Naruto. But to think how can he met nagato when he is still not fitting the age at the time then there should be another mask man before the Obito got accident.
 

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hi all , im not on postin very much but listen up pleaze

Tobi's body is that of Obito Uchia some how regenerated by Zetzu
but the soul and the chakara to handle the Sage of 6 paths tools
is a split of Madara , maybe similar to how Orochimaru was able to die in one body but be resurected by a small portion of chakara that was living on in a curse seal ( itachi new this and removed it from saskai ), witch is also the way the 4th Hokagay Minato was alive in Naruto's seal ..

milk that over plz , positive feedback i hope
 

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aye where's that kid that promise to write me an apology letter if it did turn out that Tobi is Obito? lmao I said it once before and I'll say it again.....the first masked man that fought Minato was Madara not Obito, and Obito just took over after the death of Madara!
Thank You thats exactly what i said and if you ask about how he did space time jutsu. he could of just borrowed Obito's eye. Than after madara died he got his eye back and continued to be the masked man, taking madara spot
 
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

I was thinking the same... Obito was a gennin already in the third shinobi war and minato was a jounin... Unless Minato must training to be hokage... someone explain this...

and YES me and my brother has been thinking it was Obito all along... It could be just his body... YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WITH KISHI lol
your right he was named hokage long before but since there were two he was in waiting it was in the first hundred chapters i forget where
 
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