[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

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I always knew Kishi would make it out to be Obito...why not?!? haha I can't wait to see how it all turned out a couple theories of mine are that he's some sort of an Edo jutsu that Orochimaru set up after Obito died so he could have his eyes...but then I thought well why wouldn't Madara want to do the same thing he sought power just like Oro did...So Madara was defeated at the battle with Hashirama but didnt die, stayed alive and had spies in Konoha long enough to find him a suitable shinobi to fix him, but instead found Oro. He came to Oro later in life as he was doing more experimenting with humans and extending life through the forbidden jutsu. Now let me jump back a bit Madara being a smart uchiha must have seen what was coming before his fight with hashi needed to have a safe guard if he was hurt too much so he somehow created Zetsu who would have been the one to save him from dying in said battle. When he was spying on Konoha he saw an up and coming Uchiha that was a descendant of some very powerful and notable Uchiha so in essence he had to be a great shinobi later in life. So Zetsu was ordered to follow him...well when he awakened his sharingan Madara knew the moment it happened bc zetsu as watching so he knew then that he wanted him if not is body then atleast to pass down his will. Possibly by this time Oro had already been doing some experimenting and talked with Madara about a body transferral to Obito.


So...ha in all Tobi might not have been lying about being Madara because he transfered his soul to Obitos body after being reconstructed.


My other theory is that Obito was found by Zetsu and reconstructed and that it is truly Obito and the idealism that Tobi doesnt want war is quite relevant because he was never really a skilled fighter and hated war. So he could have still gained a hate for Konoha through Madara and decided togain power through vengeance I mean look how strong Sasuke has gotten in such a short period of time I mean what has it been 6 years and he has almost mastered his and his brothers MS and gained an EMS so being able to use his powers to the extent in a short time is plausable when you look at sasuke

I'm just excited that it was Obito not some old deady like the elder son or Shisui which I thought might have been a good idea for a while but that's a whole nother thread some where else haha but shishui is still on my list we'll see how it turns out!
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

Obito, Minato and Kakashi were all in the same generation...he was not hogage at that point it was later on where he becomes hokage
 
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Hmm, I give this chapter 2/5. But I like tobi's face, look pretty just right for obito.

I also am curious about tobi - can one of you guys tell me timeline on Tobi?


- claimed that tobi gave Nagato rinnegan
- controlled muzikage before or during/after 3rd great ninja war?
- attack on leaf village and one on one vs minato


And more...

Just want to understand if those happened after obito "died".
 

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Awesome tobi is Obito i always knew!! anyone who thinks this make plot holes or that tobi still isn't obito or that theres multiple masked men, try me and ill prove you wrong. Obito is by far the best and most interesting tobi sooo cool. Anyone who's hating on kishimoto should just stop because he is the manga god
 

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hi all , im not on postin very much but listen up pleaze

Tobi's body is that of Obito Uchia some how regenerated by Zetzu
but the soul and the chakara to handle the Sage of 6 paths tools
is a split of Madara , maybe similar to how Orochimaru was able to die in one body but be resurected by a small portion of chakara that was living on in a curse seal ( itachi new this and removed it from saskai ), witch is also the way the 4th Hokagay Minato was alive in Naruto's seal ..

milk that over plz , positive feedback i hope

its been said by itachi and others that he is Madara just a shell of his formerself, just a cheep replacement body but cloned by Madara's chakara
(just like naruto's clones until that clone chakara is replaced back into the person body again they dont even no what that clone did.. remember when Naruto is taught to expell the clones to retrieve there chakara witch holds their expierences)

pleaze read
 

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As a fan of this Naruto Manga who has been following Narutobase for the past year, I couldn't find a better time to make my first post.

I could never fantom the fact that Tobi was Obito, but has the feeling that somebody was using Obito's body. :hint:when we look back at the manga, it is obvious that Mandara took Obito in as a student and taught him everything he knew and left him with the Job of following on with his moon eye plan, same as Jiraya did with Narutoand left him to find away to bring lasting peace. That is why Tobi asked Naruto if he could abandon all what the fourth and Jiraya left for him.

Secondly, to those who say the Minato was not a Hokage before the 3rd Great Ninja war because he was called the yellow flash, how many times have we heard people call Tsunade the 5th? (on very rare occasions:hint:) She is often called Princess Tsunade, or Slug Princess, or Granny Tsunade like Naruto prefers to call her. It's obvious that after the third ninja war, Jiraya did not return to Konoha, and he was the person who recommended Minato to be Hokage in his stead and that was obviously before the third ninja war. After the war, Jiraya remained in the rain country to train Yahiko, Konan and Nagato.
 

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Would all make sense if it was Madara who saved him and somehow helped him grow older and helped him master his sharingan all in a short time span. All for the purpose was that he realized that he was going to die and he didn't want anyone to know he was going to die and for that purpose he needed a puppet like obito to pretend to be him once he died. OFC he also knew that Nagato would revive him in the near future so yeah...:shrug:
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

1/5 (Too bad 0 rating is not available) Crappiest chapter in like what, Manga history?
Too bad Kishi cannot think beyond anagrams (Tobi - Obito)

The next 5 chapters are going to be a stream of flashback no jutsu shit unless the ratings go down and Kishi might want to give some other stuff

Now what, Kishi comes up with 2 Tobi theory - One with the long hair fellow and the Short haired one is Obito, and he would conveniently put the first fellow (presumably Madara) in the timelines where Obito cannot be inserted?

I don't really mind Tobi being any character, all I want is a good connection between the dots

Btw, this was my reaction to the chapter
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:flaw: well its as I expected... to all those people that were bashing those in the right... how does it taste???:ice: 5/5
 
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Damn. What a disappointing turn of events. From here on out, all bets are off, it seems. No point in theorizing anymore, since literally anything is possible.
 

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Anyone could have guessed this... everyone was denying it was Obito because they were thinking to hard and were just wishing your own theories were right... shouldve looked at all the facts from the begining...the same eye he didnt have was on kakashi ..same left eye...he was from the uchia clan...his hair is exactly the same as it was when he was little... and what other purpose did the Kakashi chronicles serve other than to lead up to this...shouldve paid attention to the little things :p Oh and plot holes my ass its not your story dont try to point out holes and curse kishi out bc i bet if he stopped making the mangas you will cry in your sleep haha
 

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How about the idea of... Madara was the Tobi fought Minato and Obito the present Tobi... Madara with help from Zetsu saved and revived Obito after Kakashi and Rin left Kanabi... Madara then brainwashed Obito including telling him that the latter's dream of becoming Hokage is so impossible knowing that there could be no Uchiha who could be in that leadership... He then apprenticed to Madara who taught him so many things like history, techniques and powers of being a powerful shinobi... After Madara was killed by Minato, Obito having devastated by it, then planned on to destroy Konoha to restore Uchiha from the oppressor Senju Clan with assist from Orochimaru who also hated Konoha and who killed Hiruzen... Because Danzo knew of this plan, they required Itachi to massacre the Uchiha so that it wont materialize... And the rest is history... Looking forward for some good explanation from Kishi next week.
 

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Wow, hrm ok. The next few chapters have got quite a bit of explaining to do that's for sure. But rating wise I'd have to give it a 2/5 and that's pushing. Majority of the chapter didn't help enhance the plot. We already knew of the one way affection between Obito > Rin > Kakashi.
 

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this is my first port here. . .

Guys remember that what sasuke said to seigetzu from past few episodes? That he will go to the man who knows everything? And that was orochimaru, thats why sasuke revived orichimaru. And i think we can find the answers from orochimaru who is tobi was. Cause as far as i understand and analized this story, way back from orichimaru is a member of the hunter-nins or what we call the roots the ANBU black ops. Their missions is to find the missing-nins or the corpse of their fellow villagers to destroy it so that the other villages cannot get an intel to them and to use their jutso and remember obito is an uchiha he got a dojutsu(the sharinggan). And maybe orichimaru who's the one who got obito first and maybe orochimaru do an expirement to him. And also i wonder why tobi got a white zetzu. White zetzus are dna came from the 1st hokage and only orichimaru got the 1st hokage's dna. . . No womder if it is obito hes an uchiha and a former student of minato(the 4th) and also a team mate of kakashi. . . And im not wondering why he is that strong enough to fight minato and to control kurama with only an ordinary shiringgan. The controlling of kurama is the izanagi, the izanagi is a type of genjutsu even if an ordinary shiringgan can use it but has a lot of side effect to the user and cause it to blindness. . . We cannot blame kishi his the author. . . :)

That was only my opinion guys. . .hehe i really love this naruto story cause it got so many twist in a story and full of surprises. . . Japanesse writers are really good in this kind of stories. . .
 

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I love you Kishi cant wait for next chapter love seeing all the people who doubted it being Obito pissed... made the chapter even better.
And I can't wait for the next chapter where Kishi reveals that it's not really Obito, and crushes all your 'tobi=obito' theories into dust. Just because it looks like Obito, doesn't mean it actually is. And given the circumstances, there is no way for Obito to become what Tobi is in the time between his death and the time Tobi attacked Konoha.

The fact is that the would have needed a shit ton of help and guidance to become that twisted and powerful, assuming he even survived the battle of Hanabi bridge. My favorite part about these troll chapters is how stupid all your theories are and how they don't take any factual material into account.
 

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I registered to say this. Its clearly obito, kakashi isn't asking obito if he's obito. Kakashi is in a state of disarray. Also the title clearly says " the mans name is obito uchiha!" I really don't uunderstand how it isn't clicking in your heads? He obviously did not attack the village and stop saying madara couldn't have he doesn't have m/s. Well not a lot is known of madara its all lore how he battled harashima and died,it was gossip that probably became misconstrued. Now onto the space jutsu, he borrowed it from obito, obito seems to use the word "borrow" a lot. Example are giving the rinnegan to nagato and his sharingan to kakashi..

I'm thinking madara borrow his eyes because of the one specific jutsu it contained , kumia . And how is it not possible a good guy can turn bad? Happens a lot. Look at oro, can you tell me why he went insane? It was assumed to be because he wanted to become hokage, his parents were another theory, but I don't think we were given a clear answer. Did you guys notice the panels with the third and 4th? What where they doing....? Kishi threw that in for a reason. Also remember when obito made that remark to gai? Kishi made this particular chapter have no speeches for a reason. He wants us to read between the lines. Its clear in the chapter when he goes against gai again gai cannot remember wh obito is.. gai isn't looking at him like *wtf?* he's trying tremember if he had fought/ met obito before.
 
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your an idiot... probably just mad your theory was wrong
Nah, dude... Chronologically the time of events makes no sense at all.
Give me a plausible reason why Tobi is really Obito. Nothing is set in stone just yet, Kakashi ASKED was he Obito. It could be Obito physically, but c'mon, we all thought Deva Path was Pain's real body. Just saying....
 

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is anyone thinking that oro is the man behind this whole ninja war. Itachi knew thats why oro was so obsessed with taking his body. Oro is having all his pawns do what he has been plotting to do. there will not be a moon eye plan, but we will see Oro return and have his ability to use jutsu returned to him.
 

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And I can't wait for the next chapter where Kishi reveals that it's not really Obito, and crushes all your 'tobi=obito' theories into dust. Just because it looks like Obito, doesn't mean it actually is. And given the circumstances, there is no way for Obito to become what Tobi is in the time between his death and the time Tobi attacked Konoha.

The fact is that the would have needed a shit ton of help and guidance to become that twisted and powerful, assuming he even survived the battle of Hanabi bridge. My favorite part about these troll chapters is how stupid all your theories are and how they don't take any factual material into account.
squigles, my man, I applaud your efforts. My faith has run dry. I think the most logical explanation is that Kishi has Alzheimer's.
 

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I died a little on the inside when I saw Tobi was Obito. I don't believe it and won't until Kishi explains everything! I honestly do believe it's Izuna using Obito's body like Nagato did with Yahiko. I'm so confused! Maybe someone evil influnced Obito? AHHHHHHH. :ice: Feel free to ignore this and carry on with your life. Don't bash my reply though
I die to in the inside because Kishi is done, he is just juicing the manga because he know he have us on a string like drug addicts, giving us 17 pages a week instead of 30 or 40 pages(the manga been getting shorter and shorter every year soon it's going be 5 page manga), because he lost his writing touch, from all the money he is getting he not hungry anymore and now he just being lazy with Orochmura and now Tobi being Obito. Yea the guy need to go head and end Naruto before he totally kill it and in a couple years, if he get the itch start somthing new or start Naruto up again, after written it for about a year without deadlines.
 
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