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Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
Yes maybe he got to tobi but not hashi
Who said Hiruzen was the strongest???
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He was praised by konoha for being the strongest hokage.. it doesn't matter their skill rank? art thou retarded?
Fodder ninja in this war have shown that they aren't completely retarded and know of characters before their time such as kin gin brothers etc,,
He was praised by konoha for being the strongest hokage.. it doesn't matter their skill rank? art thou retarded?
Fodder ninja in this war have shown that they aren't completely retarded and know of characters before their time such as kin gin brothers etc,,
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They know about them but not facts we as readers have to make up the facts based on what we see. We see fodders saying the 3rd is the strongest and madara and kabuto say the 1st is. I am sorry but after seeing madara's ps I am going with madara and kabuto you can believe fodders if you want.
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Geeze are the only one with intelligence in this forum damn. I have to agree with you, that makes perfect sense and it is crazy that people can't put that together. Harashima was just a beast plan and simple. I can't wait until they get into the ninja life he lead with all the scrolls in such.
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And I think you meant to say that Hashirama's strength was soooo great that it was like a myth right..... Well I hope you meant that anyway. Madara has just proven pretty much with his own words that Hashirama's strength is second to none. C'mon the man is the only ninja that was able to round up all of the tailed beast and he had more power than a powerful tailed beast by himself (Madara said that only a Biiju has the power of the ultimate Sanso and Hashirama is stronger than Madara).... can't say that for Naruto's case where he is strong more because of the nine tails.
TheSages456
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yup thats what i meant. hashiramas strength was considered to be a myth like the sage of six paths. he beat madara+kyuubi. that means that he was fighting perfect susano and kyuubi. you can see why his strength was a myth. kabuto also said that hashiramas might was so great that no shinobi in the current era could match his level of power. the ninjas in the war are all haxx powerhouses. all those powerhouses that hashirama would beat would murder hiruzen. that shows you how strong hashirama was.
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Anyway you do make a good point though, this has yet to be proven so everyone is going to believe what they want to believe.
I understand where you are coming from but it is obvious based on what we have read and seen in the Manga that Hashirama is the most powerful whether or not you are able to read in between the lines or you can't. If people really think that Hiruzen is stronger then that means Minato was even stronger than him. First of all there comes a time when you are Hokage that you have to pass the torch and it is not because there is someone stronger than you hence why Hiruzen was the 3rd Hokage for a very long time <-- he was the third for a long time even before Minato came into the picture. If you take Hashirama, Hiruzen, and Minato in their primes who do you think would most likely be the strongest? Hashirama that's who. Do you actually think that Hiruzen could beat Madara by himself.... Nope he barely beat Orochi if you could call dying and Orochi living a win.... and Minato fought the nine tails sure but he couldn't save his family and himself while doing so.... we saw Hashirama make quick work of the nine tails while in Madara's possession.
Anyway you do make a good point though, this has yet to be proven so everyone is going to believe what they want to believe.
The Hidden Shinobi
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Yes whatever hiruzen is stronger then hashi and madara whatever believe what you want. Hiruzen is god after so6p whatever. Madara's ps is nothing against hiruzen because his monkey can scratch madara's ps to death. we see madara say hashi and him have landscape changing abilities but no they are no match for hiruzen.
The Hidden Shinobi
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No i am just fed up go to my hey hiruzen fanboys threads and real all MY post I can not be bothered anymore. Funny you couldn't reply to my sarcasm you realising yet
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The Manga didn't state that but come on man, when you are in that Edo Tensi you still have some capabilities of your own will. Look at the ninja war we saw that with almost all of the ones brought back to life. I point that out to say that do you actually think that the 1st 2nd hokages were trying to fight him at full power? Hell naw in fact they were trying to resist it. And the Edo Tensi is only as strong as it's user by the way. So Orochi at the time was not as powerful as Kabuto now, well don't quote me on that but I should say not as experience with the Edo Tensi as Kabuto is now. And lets face it, Madara is totally enjoying what he is doing, he is not trying to fight Kabuto at all, he's going full force.
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I believe fodders over madara and kabuto I am an idiot
I believe fodders over madara and kabuto I am an idiot
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lmao +rep for making me laght for the first time today
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Then you write throughout your entire story that Hashirama has powers beyond powers <-- and this is from other powerful ninjas in the world and just other characters alike. We only heard just a little tiny piece of people in the ninja world mentioning Hiruzen's power, actually we heard more people in the ninja world speak of Minato's strength than Hiruzen's. So I say again why as a story writer build a character so high that his powers are considered myth only to make another character later to supposedly be stronger when he gets taken out by someone not as strong as one of the main antagonist? That to me takes away from the story point blank and I do not believe he wrote the story this way <-- he's way smarter than that he's a genius so why would he.
I feel you on that about Hiruzen, I don't doubt that Hiruzen was a beast for sure but as a story writer it just doesn't make sense in this story in particular. Why would a writer display a powerful character (Madara) from long ago doing feats that seem to be waaaaaaay beyond anyone else of the current era and mind you that this same character was defeated by another powerful character (Hashirama) from long ago and then on top of that make that character admit to everyone that the only person capable of defeating him is the same character that caused his death the first time?
Then you write throughout your entire story that Hashirama has powers beyond powers <-- and this is from other powerful ninjas in the world and just other characters alike. We only heard just a little tiny piece of people in the ninja world mentioning Hiruzen's power, actually we heard more people in the ninja world speak of Minato's strength than Hiruzen's. So I say again why as a story writer build a character so high that his powers are considered myth only to make another character later to supposedly be stronger when he gets taken out by someone not as strong as one of the main antagonist? That to me takes away from the story point blank and I do not believe he wrote the story this way <-- he's way smarter than that he's a genius so why would he.
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I totally agree with you... Im sick of those Hiruzen Fanboys.